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    Default Belle Delphine

    Type this strange grifter:





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    SEI thot

    in other words a regular SEI
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    “Grifter”? That normally implies tricking someone. I don’t think her customers/viewers are being tricked out of anything. She’s an intelligent businessman, but she’s no more dishonest than any other actor or Youtuber.

    As @hag said though, SEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    “Grifter”? That normally implies tricking someone. I don’t think her customers/viewers are being tricked out of anything. She’s an intelligent businessman, but she’s no more dishonest than any other actor or Youtuber.

    As @hag said though, SEI.
    I consider her a grifter personally and I don't like to use the term loosely either because she sells useless products at a high price. If she's not a grifter then at best she's an opportunist that saw an easy way to make money off of desperate guys with her physical appearance and quirky personality.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I consider her a grifter personally and I don't like to use the term loosely either because she sells useless products at a high price. If she's not a grifter then at best she's an opportunist that saw an easy way to make money off of desperate guys.
    Something like 20% of the American economy is accounted for through finance, insurance, real estate, and leasing; that is, producing no useful services, but making money on money. This woman is at least offering a tangible benefit to weirdos — by almost any standard (but especially the standard of our time) she’s making a more than honest living. Also, you know, by your reasoning jewelry vendors are also grifters. Jewelry is no more objectively “useful” than whatever this woman sells.

    Anyway, here in Ameristan, we call opportunists who find ways to make money off people ‘captains of industry.’ She’s more respectable than most.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Something like 20% of the American economy is accounted for through finance, insurance, real estate, and leasing; that is, producing no useful services, but making money on money. This woman is at least offering a tangible benefit to weirdos — by almost any standard (but especially the standard of our time) she’s making a more than honest living. Also, you know, by your reasoning jewelry vendors are also grifters. Jewelry is no more objectively “useful” than whatever this woman sells.

    Anyway, here in Ameristan, we call opportunists who find ways to make money off people ‘captains of industry.’ She’s more respectable than most.
    What's the tangible benefit of a $2,500 per month patreon subscription though? Sure, $30 for a small jar of useless bath water won't really hurt anyone's pocket book and if people want to buy it then that's their choice. Giving her $5 a month on patron is basically the same idea as well, if you're a fan and want to support her and get more content. However, if someone is paying thousands of dollars thinking they're getting something useful when they're clearly not then it goes beyond trying to make money via capitalism at that point:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    What's the tangible benefit of a $2,500 per month patreon subscription though? Sure, $30 for a small jar of useless bath water won't really hurt anyone's pocket book and if people want to buy it then that's their choice. Giving her $5 a month on patron is basically the same idea as well, if you're a fan and want to support her and get more content. However, if someone is paying thousands of dollars thinking they're getting something useful when they're clearly not then it goes beyond trying to make money via capitalism at that point:

    Again, she doesn’t advertise anything beyond what people get. If people are donating to her, presumably it’s because they like her content, yes?

    One may as well ask why the wealthy donate to museums when they don’t get any ‘tangible benefit’ from it. You’re missing the point entirely. Patrons of art get recognition and fuzzy feelings. Patrons of Belle Delphine get sexual pleasure.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Again, she doesn’t advertise anything beyond what people get. If people are donating to her, presumably it’s because they like her content, yes?

    One may as well ask why the wealthy donate to museums when they don’t get any ‘tangible benefit’ from it. You’re missing the point entirely. Patrons of art get recognition and fuzzy feelings. Patrons of Belle Delphine get sexual pleasure.
    What kind of sexual pleasure? For $2,500 you get nudes and her phone number at most apparently. You can get a high end escort for much less than that and look at nudes and porn for free. If you are arguing people donate large sums of money to her because they want to support her as a fan and get little in return as a form of charity then sure I'll agree with you on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    What kind of sexual pleasure? For $2,500 you get nudes and her phone number at most apparently. You can get a high end escort for much less than that and look at nudes and porn for free. If you are arguing people donate large sums of money to her because they want to support her as a fan and get little in return as a form of charity then sure I'll agree with you on that.
    Well, she doesn't seem to be forcing anyone, surely these are willing payers, and how do you know the prices of these high end escorts, lol? I suppose it is just that not every one wants an escort, maybe (so long as) no one's duped honestly she seems to just, i dunno, have tapped into some niche of sorts....I honestly had never known this stuff existed until you posted her videos, lol. Well, maybe paying her is a 'relative' to crowd sourcing or some such. Oh, and SEI seems ok for her.
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    I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Well, she doesn't seem to be forcing anyone, surely these are willing payers, and how do you know the prices of these high end escorts, lol? I suppose it is just that not every one wants an escort, maybe (so long as) no one's duped honestly she seems to just, i dunno, have tapped into some niche of sorts....I honestly had never known this stuff existed until you posted her videos, lol. Well, maybe paying her is a 'relative' to crowd sourcing or some such. Oh, and SEI seems ok for her.
    I looked it up and no I never used one before lol. Heh, if people see her as an opportunist rather than a grifter then I get where they're coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker
    Why an extrovert?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Why an extrovert?
    Because she does anything for attention and to get a reaction from others. I don’t know why she would be an introvert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    Because she does anything for attention and to get a reaction from others. I don’t know why she would be an introvert.
    Attention-seeking isn't related to extraversion, and you're forming this judgment from her stage presence -- an actor's job is to grab people's attention.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I looked it up and no I never used one before lol. Heh, if people see her as an opportunist rather than a grifter then I get where they're coming from.
    Again -- how is she more of an 'opportunist' than any other businessperson? "Opportunist" has pretty negative connotations.

    Once again, no one's being tricked or ripped off, and she doesn't promise anything she doesn't give for the money.
    As soon as the land of any country has all become private property, the landlords, like all other men, love to reap where they never sowed, and demand a rent even for its natural produce.

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    Not SEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Again -- how is she more of an 'opportunist' than any other businessperson? "Opportunist" has pretty negative connotations.

    Once again, no one's being tricked or ripped off, and she doesn't promise anything she doesn't give for the money.
    Alright, so going by this definition, would you consider Jordan Peterson a grifter or an opportunist? Or is he an opportunist like any other businessperson? The reason I mention him is because his behavior is not that different from Belle Delphine other than being involved in a different realm.

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    Not SEI.
    If she is not SEI, what type do you think she is?
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    I don't know much about her, but I'm thinking Gamma. Alpha seems completely wrong IMO. She's quite entrepreneurial, and is obviously putting on an act.

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    @Raver, Peterson passes himself off as knowledgeable in philosophy, history, and biology, and uses this impression to sell mainstream social conservatism with a misogynistic twist to disgruntled young men who feel they've been hard done by. His first step into fame and fortune was intentionally misrepresenting a Canadian bill and asking for donations to fight it, tapping into the outrage culture of the right and making tens of thousands of dollars through it. This is actually a grift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker
    I agree. LIE > SEE > (ESE)

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    I think she could be an EIE. I find her pretty amusing, but I haven't spend much time analysing her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I think she could be an EIE. I find her pretty amusing, but I haven't spend much time analysing her.
    You think everyone is EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    @Raver, Peterson passes himself off as knowledgeable in philosophy, history, and biology, and uses this impression to sell mainstream social conservatism with a misogynistic twist to disgruntled young men who feel they've been hard done by. His first step into fame and fortune was intentionally misrepresenting a Canadian bill and asking for donations to fight it, tapping into the outrage culture of the right and making tens of thousands of dollars through it. This is actually a grift.
    How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything. He just sounds like any other opportunistic businessman to me. He is a qualified professor of psychology at a university with a P.H.D. His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.

    He does delve into other aspects and gained fame with identity politics, but his books and main focus are based on psychology, his area of expertise. Calling Belle Delphine a businesswoman and Jordan Peterson a grifter a pretty big leap.
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    Peterson is involved in an MLM insurance sales grift.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything. He just sounds like any other opportunistic businessman to me. He is a qualified professor of psychology at a university with a P.H.D. His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.
    How is Belle Delphine a grifter? She is not forcing anyone to do anything. She just sounds like any other opportunistic thot to me. She is qualified hot. Her main selling point is selling herself and her disgusting bathwater to perverted neckbeards with no self-respect, which she is an expert on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Peterson is involved in an MLM insurance sales grift.
    Link it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    How is Belle Delphine a grifter? She is not forcing anyone to do anything. She just sounds like any other opportunistic thot to me. She is qualified hot. Her main selling point is selling herself and her disgusting bathwater to perverted neckbeards with no self-respect, which she is an expert on.
    I hope you understand I worded it that way intentionally, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    I don't know much about her, but I'm thinking Gamma. Alpha seems completely wrong IMO. She's quite entrepreneurial, and is obviously putting on an act.
    She just copies what some other female youtubers/on Twitch are doing, just with a little twist. Don't see anything entrepreneurial about that. Also, what if what she's doing isn't someone else's idea (boyfriend)?
    Anyways, she's so much SEI as they come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by hag View Post
    SEI thot

    in other words a regular SEI
    That's an absurd typing. LxE or SEE obv.

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    to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    She just copies what some other female youtubers/on Twitch are doing, just with a little twist. Don't see anything entrepreneurial about that. Also, what if what she's doing isn't someone else's idea (boyfriend)?
    Anyways, she's so much SEI as they come.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    That's an absurd typing. LxE or SEE obv.
    SEE was the second option I thought of. Se valuing for sure imo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything.
    I know you're being intentionally obtuse, but anyway -- I didn't say that Peterson assaulted anyone; just that he deceived them. That's what a grifter does.

    His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.
    His expert advice all boils down to "conservatism improves mental health."

    He does delve into other aspects and gained fame with identity politics, but his books and main focus are based on psychology, his area of expertise. Calling Belle Delphine a businesswoman and Jordan Peterson a grifter a pretty big leap.
    Do you consider it a psychological statement to call women "dragons of chaos"? Because that is the type of psychology he peddles.

    On the other hand, what exactly do you find dishonest about Delphine?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    What in Gulenko's name did you just say about me, you little MBTI horoscoper? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Humanitarian Socionics School, and I've been involved in numerous typings, and I have over 300 confirmed VIs. I am trained in the DCNH subtype system and I'm the top typer on the entire 16types forum. You are nothing to me but just another Enneagrammer. I will type you the fuck out with precision that has never been seen before in the typology community, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that reiki shit to me over the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of Slavic Socionist spies across the USA and your type is being tracked right now so you better be prepared for the truth, maggot. The truth that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your type. You're fucking typed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can type you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with bare vibes. Not only am I extensively trained in Socionics, but I have access to the entire Socionics community and I will use it to its full extent to type your miserable personality off the face of the continent, you little mistyper. If only you could have known what accurate typing your little "clever" mistyping was about to bring upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit Reinin dichotomies all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking typed, kiddo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Link it up.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...
    1 She V.I as SEI
    2 A SEE would have much more presence, be much more grounded, don't act so silly and doing weird things on camera, which are obviously more a product of a Ne valuing mind.
    3 I can immediately recognize my supervisor, and she isn't one. I can also instantly recognize my beneficiary, and she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...
    Her movements are always soft and gentle. Se egos aren't like that. And she isn't an Fe lead as you think; watch her in the second video posted. Where Fe leads are constantly engaged with people/the audience; establishing a social atmosphere, this is secondary to her. She pays much more attention to the room and stuff than engaging with the audience, making an engaging video, whatever. Also, anecdotally, her movements and expressions remind me of most female SEIs I've known -- so as @Marep says, she V.Is SEI to me.

    Ni I find difficult to describe/associate with particular movements, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that she shows it.
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    @Raver
    I think she's NF type, actually. I really (REALLY) don't see the Si base - but a lot of strong Fe, so ethical. Maybe Beta NF? I'm unsure, but i'm fairly certain that she isn't SEI.

    Also, i disagree (with my albeit very shaky VI) that she VI's SEI. SEI usually have slower, calmer dispositions. I think she looks closest to IEI.
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    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    I would have to agree. I usually just do it for fun. I find VI often differs quite a lot from the actual type.

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