Type this strange grifter:
Belle Delphine
Type this strange grifter:
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What kind of sexual pleasure? For $2,500 you get nudes and her phone number at most apparently. You can get a high end escort for much less than that and look at nudes and porn for free. If you are arguing people donate large sums of money to her because they want to support her as a fan and get little in return as a form of charity then sure I'll agree with you on that.Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman
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I looked it up and no I never used one before lol. Heh, if people see her as an opportunist rather than a grifter then I get where they're coming from.
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Again -- how is she more of an 'opportunist' than any other businessperson? "Opportunist" has pretty negative connotations.
Once again, no one's being tricked or ripped off, and she doesn't promise anything she doesn't give for the money.
Alright, so going by this definition, would you consider Jordan Peterson a grifter or an opportunist? Or is he an opportunist like any other businessperson? The reason I mention him is because his behavior is not that different from Belle Delphine other than being involved in a different realm.
If she is not SEI, what type do you think she is?
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I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker
Why an extrovert?
Because she does anything for attention and to get a reaction from others. I don’t know why she would be an introvert.
Attention-seeking isn't related to extraversion, and you're forming this judgment from her stage presence -- an actor's job is to grab people's attention.
I agree. LIE > SEE > (ESE)
Not SEI.
I don't know much about her, but I'm thinking Gamma. Alpha seems completely wrong IMO. She's quite entrepreneurial, and is obviously putting on an act.
She just copies what some other female youtubers/on Twitch are doing, just with a little twist. Don't see anything entrepreneurial about that. Also, what if what she's doing isn't someone else's idea (boyfriend)?
Anyways, she's so much SEI as they come.
What in Gulenko's name did you just say about me, you little MBTI horoscoper? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Humanitarian Socionics School, and I've been involved in numerous typings, and I have over 300 confirmed VIs. I am trained in the DCNH subtype system and I'm the top typer on the entire 16types forum. You are nothing to me but just another Enneagrammer. I will type you the fuck out with precision that has never been seen before in the typology community, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that reiki shit to me over the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of Slavic Socionist spies across the USA and your type is being tracked right now so you better be prepared for the truth, maggot. The truth that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your type. You're fucking typed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can type you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with bare vibes. Not only am I extensively trained in Socionics, but I have access to the entire Socionics community and I will use it to its full extent to type your miserable personality off the face of the continent, you little mistyper. If only you could have known what accurate typing your little "clever" mistyping was about to bring upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit Reinin dichotomies all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking typed, kiddo.
.................. what?
@Raver, Peterson passes himself off as knowledgeable in philosophy, history, and biology, and uses this impression to sell mainstream social conservatism with a misogynistic twist to disgruntled young men who feel they've been hard done by. His first step into fame and fortune was intentionally misrepresenting a Canadian bill and asking for donations to fight it, tapping into the outrage culture of the right and making tens of thousands of dollars through it. This is actually a grift.
How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything. He just sounds like any other opportunistic businessman to me. He is a qualified professor of psychology at a university with a P.H.D. His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.
He does delve into other aspects and gained fame with identity politics, but his books and main focus are based on psychology, his area of expertise. Calling Belle Delphine a businesswoman and Jordan Peterson a grifter a pretty big leap.
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How is Belle Delphine a grifter? She is not forcing anyone to do anything. She just sounds like any other opportunistic thot to me. She is qualified hot. Her main selling point is selling herself and her disgusting bathwater to perverted neckbeards with no self-respect, which she is an expert on.
Link it up.
I hope you understand I worded it that way intentionally, lol.
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I don't have an opinion on Belle Delphine.
I know you're being intentionally obtuse, but anyway -- I didn't say that Peterson assaulted anyone; just that he deceived them. That's what a grifter does.
His expert advice all boils down to "conservatism improves mental health."His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.
Do you consider it a psychological statement to call women "dragons of chaos"? Because that is the type of psychology he peddles.He does delve into other aspects and gained fame with identity politics, but his books and main focus are based on psychology, his area of expertise. Calling Belle Delphine a businesswoman and Jordan Peterson a grifter a pretty big leap.
On the other hand, what exactly do you find dishonest about Delphine?
I think she could be an EIE. I find her pretty amusing, but I haven't spend much time analysing her.
You think everyone is EIE.
Peterson is involved in an MLM insurance sales grift.
to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...
1 She V.I as SEI
2 A SEE would have much more presence, be much more grounded, don't act so silly and doing weird things on camera, which are obviously more a product of a Ne valuing mind.
3 I can immediately recognize my supervisor, and she isn't one. I can also instantly recognize my beneficiary, and she is.
Her movements are always soft and gentle. Se egos aren't like that. And she isn't an Fe lead as you think; watch her in the second video posted. Where Fe leads are constantly engaged with people/the audience; establishing a social atmosphere, this is secondary to her. She pays much more attention to the room and stuff than engaging with the audience, making an engaging video, whatever. Also, anecdotally, her movements and expressions remind me of most female SEIs I've known -- so as @Marep says, she V.Is SEI to me.
Ni I find difficult to describe/associate with particular movements, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that she shows it.
where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle
she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)
It's not so much about what she does, but how she does it.
You have a strange definition of 'violence.' I skimmed the video; I don't recall her really mistreating anything. And she never throws anything very hard. Her stuff isn't damaged.
Plenty of Si doms and non-Se egos do sex work. There are quite a few SEI prostitutes and porn stars especially.
@Raver
I think she's NF type, actually. I really (REALLY) don't see the Si base - but a lot of strong Fe, so ethical. Maybe Beta NF? I'm unsure, but i'm fairly certain that she isn't SEI.
Also, i disagree (with my albeit very shaky VI) that she VI's SEI. SEI usually have slower, calmer dispositions. I think she looks closest to IEI.
I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
I would have to agree. I usually just do it for fun. I find VI often differs quite a lot from the actual type.
How does he deceive them? He offers advice, people can take it or leave it, it is their choice. He sells books that have value to the men and women who buy them. If someone doesn't like him or what he has to say then they don't buy his books, pretty simple. The same goes with his other capitalistic opportunities, nobody is pressured to do any of it, they go on their own volition.
It looks like you haven't really delved into anything he wrote or says and you are just looking at the surface level of his interviews.
Take him with a grain of salt by all means, but don't throw the baby out of the bathwater because he said a few things you disagreed with.
Fyi, I was exaggerating when I called Belle Delphine a grifter. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is a respectable businessperson and 10 is a grifter, I would say she is a 6 and Jordan Peterson is a 4. She is an opportunist that is seeking to make money off of her body.
Basically being a whore without actually having sex. If she wants to do that, it is in her right to do so, but I see nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. Jordan is a capitalist and an opportunist as well just like her, but it is less blatant and overt unlike Belle who uses her body and looks for the maximum amount of profit possible.
Let's not forget the subjective aspect of this, Belle looks more of an opportunist and deceiver to me and Jordan less, while the opposite is true for you because you like Belle more and I like Jordan more. Which is fine, it is a part of human nature to be blinded by bias at times, but let's not pretend that any of us are immune to that.
I don't use VI personally because I know I am not anywhere near good at it, but I think it has some limited use. However, the issue is that it requires a high level of expertise because it requires a lot of practice to get good at it and it is easy use it incorrectly, which a lot of people do. Unfortunately, they are unaware of their incompetence and incorrectly VI a lot of people.
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the problem I see with it is that it's not a researched field. there are obviously patterns that should be analysed more, but there can also be exceptions. V. I. can give you a hint on what a person's type might be, but you should mostly focus on observing the cognitive functions that someone uses.
saying that she V.I.'s as SEI is really not an argument, and as a reader I can't really judge the subjective patterns that the person observed. I can however judge if someone's explanation of functional behaviour makes sense or not.
No matter what you think of Belle Delphine, this is pretty hilarious:
Yes, which is why I don't use VI at all for typing people and rely on other methods. If someone wants to use VI then that's perfectly fine if they are competent at it, which is only really a handful of people in this forum tbh.
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Sure - but so is determining any phenotypical result. It never actually reveals the source.
Yes, all of these people who have the time on their hands to post in some dark web corner peoplewatching forum, can't be expected to be using dubious approaches in life at any time.
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