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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Again, she doesn’t advertise anything beyond what people get. If people are donating to her, presumably it’s because they like her content, yes?

    One may as well ask why the wealthy donate to museums when they don’t get any ‘tangible benefit’ from it. You’re missing the point entirely. Patrons of art get recognition and fuzzy feelings. Patrons of Belle Delphine get sexual pleasure.
    What kind of sexual pleasure? For $2,500 you get nudes and her phone number at most apparently. You can get a high end escort for much less than that and look at nudes and porn for free. If you are arguing people donate large sums of money to her because they want to support her as a fan and get little in return as a form of charity then sure I'll agree with you on that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Well, she doesn't seem to be forcing anyone, surely these are willing payers, and how do you know the prices of these high end escorts, lol? I suppose it is just that not every one wants an escort, maybe (so long as) no one's duped honestly she seems to just, i dunno, have tapped into some niche of sorts....I honestly had never known this stuff existed until you posted her videos, lol. Well, maybe paying her is a 'relative' to crowd sourcing or some such. Oh, and SEI seems ok for her.
    I looked it up and no I never used one before lol. Heh, if people see her as an opportunist rather than a grifter then I get where they're coming from.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I looked it up and no I never used one before lol. Heh, if people see her as an opportunist rather than a grifter then I get where they're coming from.
    Again -- how is she more of an 'opportunist' than any other businessperson? "Opportunist" has pretty negative connotations.

    Once again, no one's being tricked or ripped off, and she doesn't promise anything she doesn't give for the money.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Again -- how is she more of an 'opportunist' than any other businessperson? "Opportunist" has pretty negative connotations.

    Once again, no one's being tricked or ripped off, and she doesn't promise anything she doesn't give for the money.
    Alright, so going by this definition, would you consider Jordan Peterson a grifter or an opportunist? Or is he an opportunist like any other businessperson? The reason I mention him is because his behavior is not that different from Belle Delphine other than being involved in a different realm.

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    Not SEI.
    If she is not SEI, what type do you think she is?
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    I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker
    Why an extrovert?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Why an extrovert?
    Because she does anything for attention and to get a reaction from others. I don’t know why she would be an introvert.

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    Because she does anything for attention and to get a reaction from others. I don’t know why she would be an introvert.
    Attention-seeking isn't related to extraversion, and you're forming this judgment from her stage presence -- an actor's job is to grab people's attention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by india View Post
    I think she might be an extrovert (for sure) and a thinker
    I agree. LIE > SEE > (ESE)

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    Not SEI.

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    I don't know much about her, but I'm thinking Gamma. Alpha seems completely wrong IMO. She's quite entrepreneurial, and is obviously putting on an act.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    I don't know much about her, but I'm thinking Gamma. Alpha seems completely wrong IMO. She's quite entrepreneurial, and is obviously putting on an act.
    She just copies what some other female youtubers/on Twitch are doing, just with a little twist. Don't see anything entrepreneurial about that. Also, what if what she's doing isn't someone else's idea (boyfriend)?
    Anyways, she's so much SEI as they come.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    She just copies what some other female youtubers/on Twitch are doing, just with a little twist. Don't see anything entrepreneurial about that. Also, what if what she's doing isn't someone else's idea (boyfriend)?
    Anyways, she's so much SEI as they come.
    What in Gulenko's name did you just say about me, you little MBTI horoscoper? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Humanitarian Socionics School, and I've been involved in numerous typings, and I have over 300 confirmed VIs. I am trained in the DCNH subtype system and I'm the top typer on the entire 16types forum. You are nothing to me but just another Enneagrammer. I will type you the fuck out with precision that has never been seen before in the typology community, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that reiki shit to me over the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of Slavic Socionist spies across the USA and your type is being tracked right now so you better be prepared for the truth, maggot. The truth that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your type. You're fucking typed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can type you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with bare vibes. Not only am I extensively trained in Socionics, but I have access to the entire Socionics community and I will use it to its full extent to type your miserable personality off the face of the continent, you little mistyper. If only you could have known what accurate typing your little "clever" mistyping was about to bring upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit Reinin dichotomies all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking typed, kiddo.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    What in Gulenko's name did you just say about me, you little MBTI horoscoper? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Humanitarian Socionics School, and I've been involved in numerous typings, and I have over 300 confirmed VIs. I am trained in the DCNH subtype system and I'm the top typer on the entire 16types forum. You are nothing to me but just another Enneagrammer. I will type you the fuck out with precision that has never been seen before in the typology community, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that reiki shit to me over the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of Slavic Socionist spies across the USA and your type is being tracked right now so you better be prepared for the truth, maggot. The truth that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your type. You're fucking typed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can type you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with bare vibes. Not only am I extensively trained in Socionics, but I have access to the entire Socionics community and I will use it to its full extent to type your miserable personality off the face of the continent, you little mistyper. If only you could have known what accurate typing your little "clever" mistyping was about to bring upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit Reinin dichotomies all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking typed, kiddo.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    What in Gulenko's name did you just say about me, you little MBTI horoscoper? I'll have you know I graduated top of my class at Humanitarian Socionics School, and I've been involved in numerous typings, and I have over 300 confirmed VIs. I am trained in the DCNH subtype system and I'm the top typer on the entire 16types forum. You are nothing to me but just another Enneagrammer. I will type you the fuck out with precision that has never been seen before in the typology community, mark my fucking words. You think you can get away with saying that reiki shit to me over the internet? Think again, fucker. As we speak I am contacting my network of Slavic Socionist spies across the USA and your type is being tracked right now so you better be prepared for the truth, maggot. The truth that wipes out the pathetic little thing you call your type. You're fucking typed, kid. I can be anywhere, anytime, and I can type you in over seven hundred ways, and that's just with bare vibes. Not only am I extensively trained in Socionics, but I have access to the entire Socionics community and I will use it to its full extent to type your miserable personality off the face of the continent, you little mistyper. If only you could have known what accurate typing your little "clever" mistyping was about to bring upon you, maybe you would have held your fucking tongue. But you couldn't, you didn't, and now you're paying the price, you goddamn idiot. I will shit Reinin dichotomies all over you and you will drown in it. You're fucking typed, kiddo.

    Who the fuck do you fucking think you are you fucking Keirsey cock sucker? I dont give a fucking rats asshole if you’re a Socionist or not. All you fucking ******s do is sit around taking DMT and jerking each other off to pictures of Joe Rogan. You fucking **** **** ****** mother fucking dick head piece of shit. Please send the Reinin dichotomies my way. I have a Phd in Psychohistory, I could kill all of you whole-foods philosophers with my left amygdala. You think that fucking people are supposed to be intimidated by your hollow threats of profiling someone? Let me tell you something, I will find you. I will cut out your Nardi neurotype with a psychic probe and scatter the functions across your cerebrum. You don’t know who the fuck I am. Wanna know how much of a sick mother fucker I am? Ask Carl Jung's mom. She couldn’t even take my tip without screaming. Jung is a BITCH to me, and you’re nothing but a speck of sand in the desert you’re stationed in, to Carl. So what does that make you compared to me? Nothing. You are fucking NOTHING. You’re not even a fucking MOLECULE compared to me you fucking enneagram sucker. So before you send your arsenal of cock sucking Socionist bitches, why don’t you stop and ask yourself, “Is it really worth it? Do I want to put myself, my friends, and my family in danger, because I don’t know when to shut the fuck up?”. Then answer the question by saying no and moving on with your pathetic excuse you call a life.


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    @Raver, Peterson passes himself off as knowledgeable in philosophy, history, and biology, and uses this impression to sell mainstream social conservatism with a misogynistic twist to disgruntled young men who feel they've been hard done by. His first step into fame and fortune was intentionally misrepresenting a Canadian bill and asking for donations to fight it, tapping into the outrage culture of the right and making tens of thousands of dollars through it. This is actually a grift.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    @Raver, Peterson passes himself off as knowledgeable in philosophy, history, and biology, and uses this impression to sell mainstream social conservatism with a misogynistic twist to disgruntled young men who feel they've been hard done by. His first step into fame and fortune was intentionally misrepresenting a Canadian bill and asking for donations to fight it, tapping into the outrage culture of the right and making tens of thousands of dollars through it. This is actually a grift.
    How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything. He just sounds like any other opportunistic businessman to me. He is a qualified professor of psychology at a university with a P.H.D. His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.

    He does delve into other aspects and gained fame with identity politics, but his books and main focus are based on psychology, his area of expertise. Calling Belle Delphine a businesswoman and Jordan Peterson a grifter a pretty big leap.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything. He just sounds like any other opportunistic businessman to me. He is a qualified professor of psychology at a university with a P.H.D. His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.
    How is Belle Delphine a grifter? She is not forcing anyone to do anything. She just sounds like any other opportunistic thot to me. She is qualified hot. Her main selling point is selling herself and her disgusting bathwater to perverted neckbeards with no self-respect, which she is an expert on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by xerxe View Post
    Peterson is involved in an MLM insurance sales grift.
    Link it up.

    Quote Originally Posted by Armalite View Post
    How is Belle Delphine a grifter? She is not forcing anyone to do anything. She just sounds like any other opportunistic thot to me. She is qualified hot. Her main selling point is selling herself and her disgusting bathwater to perverted neckbeards with no self-respect, which she is an expert on.
    I hope you understand I worded it that way intentionally, lol.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Link it up.
    https://www.thedailybeast.com/george...any-php-agency


    I don't have an opinion on Belle Delphine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    How is that a grift? He is not forcing anyone to do anything.
    I know you're being intentionally obtuse, but anyway -- I didn't say that Peterson assaulted anyone; just that he deceived them. That's what a grifter does.

    His main selling point is helping young men improve their lives psychologically, which he is an expert on.
    His expert advice all boils down to "conservatism improves mental health."

    He does delve into other aspects and gained fame with identity politics, but his books and main focus are based on psychology, his area of expertise. Calling Belle Delphine a businesswoman and Jordan Peterson a grifter a pretty big leap.
    Do you consider it a psychological statement to call women "dragons of chaos"? Because that is the type of psychology he peddles.

    On the other hand, what exactly do you find dishonest about Delphine?

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    I think she could be an EIE. I find her pretty amusing, but I haven't spend much time analysing her.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I think she could be an EIE. I find her pretty amusing, but I haven't spend much time analysing her.
    You think everyone is EIE.

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    Peterson is involved in an MLM insurance sales grift.

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    to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...
    1 She V.I as SEI
    2 A SEE would have much more presence, be much more grounded, don't act so silly and doing weird things on camera, which are obviously more a product of a Ne valuing mind.
    3 I can immediately recognize my supervisor, and she isn't one. I can also instantly recognize my beneficiary, and she is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    to people that type her as SEI: have you ever read a type description of SEI? how is she using Si as base function...
    Her movements are always soft and gentle. Se egos aren't like that. And she isn't an Fe lead as you think; watch her in the second video posted. Where Fe leads are constantly engaged with people/the audience; establishing a social atmosphere, this is secondary to her. She pays much more attention to the room and stuff than engaging with the audience, making an engaging video, whatever. Also, anecdotally, her movements and expressions remind me of most female SEIs I've known -- so as @Marep says, she V.Is SEI to me.

    Ni I find difficult to describe/associate with particular movements, but I don't think there's any reason to believe that she shows it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Her movements are always soft and gentle.
    where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle

    she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle

    she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)
    It's not so much about what she does, but how she does it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    where?! she just smiles and shakes her butt. yeah. very gentle.. watch her bedroom tour, she violently approaches every object she touches, slams the doors of the dolls houses, launches stuff around, mistreats objects.. not soft and gentle

    she's very much Se, to me, using her body to sell.. quite the prototype of a gamma SF (I think she's ESI-Se)
    You have a strange definition of 'violence.' I skimmed the video; I don't recall her really mistreating anything. And she never throws anything very hard. Her stuff isn't damaged.

    Plenty of Si doms and non-Se egos do sex work. There are quite a few SEI prostitutes and porn stars especially.

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    @Raver
    I think she's NF type, actually. I really (REALLY) don't see the Si base - but a lot of strong Fe, so ethical. Maybe Beta NF? I'm unsure, but i'm fairly certain that she isn't SEI.

    Also, i disagree (with my albeit very shaky VI) that she VI's SEI. SEI usually have slower, calmer dispositions. I think she looks closest to IEI.

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    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    I would have to agree. I usually just do it for fun. I find VI often differs quite a lot from the actual type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    I know you're being intentionally obtuse, but anyway -- I didn't say that Peterson assaulted anyone; just that he deceived them. That's what a grifter does.
    How does he deceive them? He offers advice, people can take it or leave it, it is their choice. He sells books that have value to the men and women who buy them. If someone doesn't like him or what he has to say then they don't buy his books, pretty simple. The same goes with his other capitalistic opportunities, nobody is pressured to do any of it, they go on their own volition.

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    His expert advice all boils down to "conservatism improves mental health."
    It looks like you haven't really delved into anything he wrote or says and you are just looking at the surface level of his interviews.

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    Do you consider it a psychological statement to call women "dragons of chaos"? Because that is the type of psychology he peddles.

    On the other hand, what exactly do you find dishonest about Delphine?
    Take him with a grain of salt by all means, but don't throw the baby out of the bathwater because he said a few things you disagreed with.

    Fyi, I was exaggerating when I called Belle Delphine a grifter. On a scale of 1 to 10 where 1 is a respectable businessperson and 10 is a grifter, I would say she is a 6 and Jordan Peterson is a 4. She is an opportunist that is seeking to make money off of her body.

    Basically being a whore without actually having sex. If she wants to do that, it is in her right to do so, but I see nothing wrong with calling a spade a spade. Jordan is a capitalist and an opportunist as well just like her, but it is less blatant and overt unlike Belle who uses her body and looks for the maximum amount of profit possible.

    Let's not forget the subjective aspect of this, Belle looks more of an opportunist and deceiver to me and Jordan less, while the opposite is true for you because you like Belle more and I like Jordan more. Which is fine, it is a part of human nature to be blinded by bias at times, but let's not pretend that any of us are immune to that.

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    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    I don't use VI personally because I know I am not anywhere near good at it, but I think it has some limited use. However, the issue is that it requires a high level of expertise because it requires a lot of practice to get good at it and it is easy use it incorrectly, which a lot of people do. Unfortunately, they are unaware of their incompetence and incorrectly VI a lot of people.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    I don't use VI personally because I know I am not anywhere near good at it, but I think it has some limited use. However, the issue is that it requires a high level of expertise because it requires a lot of practice to get good at it and it is easy use it incorrectly, which a lot of people do. Unfortunately, they are unaware of their incompetence and incorrectly VI a lot of people.
    the problem I see with it is that it's not a researched field. there are obviously patterns that should be analysed more, but there can also be exceptions. V. I. can give you a hint on what a person's type might be, but you should mostly focus on observing the cognitive functions that someone uses.

    saying that she V.I.'s as SEI is really not an argument, and as a reader I can't really judge the subjective patterns that the person observed. I can however judge if someone's explanation of functional behaviour makes sense or not.

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    No matter what you think of Belle Delphine, this is pretty hilarious:



    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    the problem I see with it is that it's not a researched field. there are obviously patterns that should be analysed more, but there can also be exceptions. V. I. can give you a hint on what a person's type might be, but you should mostly focus on observing the cognitive functions that someone uses.

    saying that she V.I.'s as SEI is really not an argument, and as a reader I can't really judge the subjective patterns that the person observed. I can however judge if someone's explanation of functional behaviour makes sense or not.
    Yes, which is why I don't use VI at all for typing people and rely on other methods. If someone wants to use VI then that's perfectly fine if they are competent at it, which is only really a handful of people in this forum tbh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    Sure - but so is determining any phenotypical result. It never actually reveals the source.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    I'm suprised that so many people on this website use visual identification as a typing method. it's a very dubious approach in my opinion.
    Yes, all of these people who have the time on their hands to post in some dark web corner peoplewatching forum, can't be expected to be using dubious approaches in life at any time.

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