I'm looking for data from you guys. If this question seems too vague, know that I would appreciate any answer (whatever is your interpretation of this question) given that it is endowed with reason and seriousness.
How many "perfect" duals have you met so far
I'm looking for data from you guys. If this question seems too vague, know that I would appreciate any answer (whatever is your interpretation of this question) given that it is endowed with reason and seriousness.
None. All my duals have issues.
-overweight and a pushover
-deplorable self-esteem and no objectives
-passive-aggressive and unproductive
-poor time management and likes bathroom humor
-talks too slowly and usually busy
-loves anime and has misconceptions about sex
Though actually, these are all male EIIs I've considered so far. I know an older EII woman (married to an LSE man) who is about as perfect as they come.
No joking, LSE might really be the dumbest type of the socion, they have no grace, act without thinking and are all raging dumbasses.Originally Posted by Director Abbie
Stupid Ni polr idiots... Don't you dare to approach me or I'm going to Fi you all the way to a mental institution.
Why is that an issue ?
I don't like anime.So my concept of perfection does not include loving it.
I make an exception for Avatar: The Last Airbender. That was very well-done.
“talks too slowly” 😂 fuckin LSE
I can't take this anymore
And I'm almost pretty sure
I've been here before
Socioville Discord: https://discord.gg/yAfc4ZU
those sound more like IEI, @Director Abbie (except the first one, that one could be, but I also know an IEI like that).
Anyway, op who is "perfect"? And who said that duality is about perfection?
Lol, because I listed all their worst traits? How about this list?
-Easygoing, steady, and friendly
-Sweet, loving, and horrified by violence
-Imaginative and musically creative
-Calm, understanding, witty, and thoughtful
-Gentlemanly, kind, lighthearted, and studious
-Idealizes family life
It might be a case of gamodualurano.
both lists seem like a IEI portrait to me.The thing with IEIs is that they look like EIIs at first...then just bam! They got your credit card (and they know your pin already). And if you dare to say something about it you just need to be prepared for the subsequent drama which will last at least 2 seasons. Its really offensive that you are so selfish after all the genuine niceness the IEI showed you.
edit. https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...91#post1346691
lol
Last edited by Hope; 07-30-2019 at 09:41 PM.
Are these really EII-specific? They seem like "general issue nice guy" traits.
Last edited by perpetuus; 07-30-2019 at 11:52 AM.
They might not be EII-specific. But neither are they IEI-specific. The issues with my duals are not type-related so much as human-related.Are these really EII-specific? They seem like "general issue nice guy" traits.
Two of them are forumites. Two of them I haven't interacted with since I was in high school. One is a violinist at my church who is probably in his 50s, teaches at the middle school, and has been working on his PHd. One is a close friend.
I would relate this "horrified by violence" to Se-PoLR, though I know it's not true of all Se-PoLRs. I would relate this imaginativity to Ne, as it's the kind that spews out ideas but sees few through. I would relate this understanding to Fi, as it's not a sympathetic understanding but a clarity in a subject I can be muddled in.
Ye're a hard woman, Abbie, me girl. Tougher than most men. You need a man who understands you and will stand by you, not one who will compete with you.
And keep in mind, EII's can be hard in their own way. They can be accommodating, but I wouldn't call them pushovers by any means. In fact, one of the most unmovable guys I ever met was EII.
I know at least 18 ESI's fairly well; seven are female, three I've gone out with, two I'd sleep with, one is perfect enough and she doesn't see me as a suitable partner.
1, if he's even my dual
Nobody's perfect, I gotta work it. Again and again till I get it right.
Nobody's perfect, you live and you learn it. And if I mess it up sometimes... nobody's perfect.
lol:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t93u0qg5q_M
Being imperfect is a good reason to retype people
the same as perfect people
@Marep Either you're thinking my post listing the negative qualities of EIIs I've known is an insult to the entire sociotype and are responding likewise, or you really hate LSEs and are thus probably not their dual.
Fi wouldn't send an Fi-seeker to a mental institution. Ni might send an Ni-PoLR there. But Fi would be more likely to keep an LSE from being instituted.
I was just being objective.
marep knows
Director Abbie is so sexy ^_^ but from what I hear she doesn't like anime. which I've grown out of anyway, but whateverI love caregivers. they're so friendly and warm inside
Abbie needs to reconsider her type.
Calling her duals pushovers and seeing some EII behaviorial characteristics as issues is just enough proof.
This thread isn't about either of us.
Here's my type-me thread if you want to press the issue.
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...fter-Two-Years
Criticizing the EIIs you met for not being productive and ambitious, also calling them pushovers... it's obvious you value SE.
This thread isn't about either of us.
Here's my type-me thread if you want to press the issue.
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...fter-Two-Years
Also, I talk slowly, and I never met other EIIs that didn't, it's just our functional order, which makes us think deeply and carefully before spilling words.
I could see LIE as a type for Abbie to be honest. Her Se is not in the ego block either. Se valuing, but weak Se is the most hostile to signs of weakness in others because they lack the volition to compensate for it.
I personally thought she was LSI, but what you say makes perfect sense.
Also, calling people pushovers is the very last thing I would expect from a caregiver type.
I have never seen anyone so at odds with Abbie, and that makes me feel that you are not an EII. Because EIIs just don't get that annoyed with what LSE has to say or how they say it.
[This is not personal against you. I haven't read your other posts. I have read plenty of Abbie's and I feel quite sure she is LSE. And a LOT of people mistype themselves.]
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
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"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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from his reaction he is most def EII. I just feel like he related too strongly to what she said, it had to strike a nerve or something. Probably felt punched in the Se PoLR, which is why I def think they are EII.
I'm an ardent lover/admirer of artists, especially performance and visual artists, and so I've always frequented and participated in those spaces, which IME tend to overflow with my "perfect" or most idealized romantic dual > ESI-Se (4w3 sp/sx). There's no feeling in this world like being consistently driven to contemplate a murder-suicide...a beautiful, dramatic, poetic one, tho. lol For platonic friendships, 9w8 sp/sx types tend to fit me most ideally because they don't bring the e4 drama, are more balanced/even keeled and are the best at pulling me back from the edge, and forcefully if need be. Overall, I encounter this type of ESI-Se more often in the wild.
I don't even know my own type, but of those I thought I was, none of the dual types seem like people I'd want to spend prolonged time around.
My idealized dual is a sunny and jovial, yet spicy and passionate creature. Her touch radiates sensual warmth. She is not pedantic, skittish or materialistic, nor does she smoke or eat onions. Oh, and big tits would be good too.
However I know that if you seek perfection, happiness in life will remain elusive. People are just too complicated and bound to surprise you.
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I'd say they were all perfect in their own way; even those I did'nt like. They all have a few things I think they should work on but so does everybody.
I "hate" anime fans more so than animes, granted they're 14+ : )
btw once I dated a guy who had naruto tattoo on his leg..
Two so far. It's kind of interesting that both showed up at a certain crux, so maybe there is something to this duality thing.
Exactly zero, all of them that I have met have had sociopathic and narcissistic features. Most of them are impulsive, irrational, sadistic and extremely arrogant people. Then maybe, they aren't my duals.
Duality certainly isn't any assurance of perfection. These relationships have the highest probability that partners can agree on a common direction in life and not interfere with one another while moving along that path even though they most certainly will disagree about what needs to be done - unless one is a total wimp. Duality points to statistical probably more than idealism similar to the chances that two horses will make a great team if hitched to the same wagon. Perfection seems to be something that many young types seek or advertise in this era of less-than-truthful social profiles but as age creeps up, many people would be content if they and their partners simply could tolerate each other's idiosyncrasies and not pee in each other's soup. In reality, people can never make their partners happy; that's their partner's responsibility; the best that people can do is not stand in the way of their partner's happiness.....
a.k.a. I/O
I've met 2 duals that I know of...I dunno what constitutes "perfection" but, uh, they aren't that, but they're ok.
One of them is my bfs dad and he talks a ton, so I guess that's a "flaw" even if it doesn't bother me.
The other is a coworker who kind of avoids me for some reason which is maybe a sign of some kind but I'm ok with it since I hate small talk. He takes time at the end of staff meetings to give everyone financial and tax advice and if that isn't LIE and adorable, good grief.
Yesterday I called the ESI-Se e6 that I dated once last summer and asked her for some advice on trimming shrubs. The one who likes SLI's and says I talk too much, but I should walk with her so she can listen to me. She reminded me that she still has the key to my garage (she wanted to borrow my lawn mower and I'm never home), but she didn't want to have to listen to me talk all the time, so when could she return it when I wasn't there? I told her to put it in an envelope and just drop it off in the mailbox.
She put it in a JuicyFruit box, which I thought was fairly whimsical and artistic. Very ESI-Se e6.
https://i.imgur.com/C01eaes.jpg
Last edited by Adam Strange; 07-30-2019 at 01:02 PM.
Sorry this is such an old thread I am reading. I often find your threads interesting because I think you are a good typer, since the stories you tell often SO fit the type you are describing. I found your above comment interesting because my Mom was ESI. She was happily married forever to my SLI Dad. My Mom LOVED people who were great conversationalists. But, not my kind of conversation [I don't consider myself a "conversationalist". I am more of a "sincere" talker and don't want to talk unless I feel it is something useful, meaningful, important or helpful to say. Like, I can talk awhile about something that made me "realize" something - for example like this post! - but that is not the kind of conversation that Mom was interested in].Yesterday I called the ESI-Se e6 that I dated once last summer and asked her for some advice on trimming shrubs. The one who likes SLI's and says I talk too much, but I should walk with her so she can listen to me. She reminded me that she still has the key to my garage (she wanted to borrow my lawn mower and I'm never home), but she didn't want to have to listen to me talk all the time, so when could she return it when I wasn't there? I told her to put it in an envelope and just drop it off in the mailbox.
She put it in a JuicyFruit box, which I thought was fairly whimsical and artistic. Very ESI-Se e6.
https://i.imgur.com/C01eaes.jpg
When I was in high school and college we had an interesting neighbor who was a vivacious talker,. She was an accomplished professional and quite intelligent (two things Mom admired: success and intelligence). An interesting fact about this neighbor was that she was actually the model for a Dilbert character (the artist was a coworker at a firm she used to work at out west). My Mom LOVED having her join us for holiday meals (she was away from her family, having grown up on a midwestern farm) and this neighbor entertained us all with her lively and interesting talk.
Another example of my Mom's enjoyment of a talker was once Mom and Dad decided to sponsor a student teacher from France (this was certainly Mom's idea) at their otherwise now-empty nest, as there was a need at the local high school for a family to sponsor this young man. So Jacques lived there for that for a year. Jacques was QUITE the talker - very friendly and sociable. When I subbed at that high school some years later, the teachers ALL remembered Jacques and his big and likable personality. Well my Mom just LOVED Jacques the talker. And I think it was because his presence in their home filled a craving she had for interesting conversation. She once said that that was the only thing she would change about Dad - that he would talk more*.
It was in that year that Jacques lived there, that began shortly after my son was born, that I finally give up on the long held hope that Mom would EVER be enthralled with me or anything I did (even something important like bear her grandchild!), because in spite of the amazing new miracle of life in our lives, that year, all she would talk about was Jacques!
So I really think, Adam, that someday some lovely ESI women will be SO grateful for your gift of your kind of talk, and of your just being you. That's what's great about duality. Just us being ourselves is what our dual craves. Most of the time. I really think.
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My dad's parents divorced when he was 3, and he spent his childhood shuffling between two homes on a train from a young age, something that was unusual for that time. And since that marriage broke up with an affair, there was acrimonies between ex- and current wife, and my Dad learned to NOT talk to keep the peace. Mom accredited Dad's lack of talk to that. But I think it had something to do with being an "I" married to an "I"...
"A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........
"Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
attitude acceptable to today's standards." - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"
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Lol, from a removed distance I can admire the honesty, but I wonder how rude she is altogether. Depending on my relationship to the person, I would make up a reason, but that has its own problems..(its harder to trust ppl who make shit up, even for good reasons.)
If it was someone I was so close to that I would be placed in a position to respond for an hour or more a day, I'd feel differently, but sometimes people talk to talk, I dunno how you are. (Personally, I get crabby when people don't discernably respond to me and will be like what's the problem? I have chatty quarter hours here and there, but don't talk much, though.)
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