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    I call duality perfect when you find a dual with compatible DCNH and compatible enneagram. Anything less is very uncertain.

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    It's weird. They "appear" in my life once every 4 years or so.....

    You "just know" when you meet your dual, it's kinda spooky.

    So much potential but it never works out because other things get in the way
    Even gravity won't hold back your tears from science.

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    My husband, my cousins, my mil and Abbie of course

    They are all different enneagram
    I like a few of the LSE here including @UDP but I haven’t met any in real life

    I guess I easily develop feelings of love
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    only two, one non romantic (my grandfather whom I love very much)

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    Considering I've met one SLE in my life and I thought he was a fake douche in the vein of Mencia the answer is zero. Types I meet often: IEI, ILI, IEE, ILE. Types I meet a medium amount of:SEI, LSI, EII, EIE, ESI, LSE, LIE, LII. Types I meet rarely: SLI. SLE: literally one ever. Therefore SLE practically does not exist to me.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    Yesterday I called the ESI-Se e6 that I dated once last summer and asked her for some advice on trimming shrubs. The one who likes SLI's and says I talk too much, but I should walk with her so she can listen to me. She reminded me that she still has the key to my garage (she wanted to borrow my lawn mower and I'm never home), but she didn't want to have to listen to me talk all the time, so when could she return it when I wasn't there? I told her to put it in an envelope and just drop it off in the mailbox.

    She put it in a JuicyFruit box, which I thought was fairly whimsical and artistic. Very ESI-Se e6.
    https://i.imgur.com/C01eaes.jpg
    Sorry this is such an old thread I am reading. I often find your threads interesting because I think you are a good typer, since the stories you tell often SO fit the type you are describing. I found your above comment interesting because my Mom was ESI. She was happily married forever to my SLI Dad. My Mom LOVED people who were great conversationalists. But, not my kind of conversation [I don't consider myself a "conversationalist". I am more of a "sincere" talker and don't want to talk unless I feel it is something useful, meaningful, important or helpful to say. Like, I can talk awhile about something that made me "realize" something - for example like this post! - but that is not the kind of conversation that Mom was interested in].

    When I was in high school and college we had an interesting neighbor who was a vivacious talker,. She was an accomplished professional and quite intelligent (two things Mom admired: success and intelligence). An interesting fact about this neighbor was that she was actually the model for a Dilbert character (the artist was a coworker at a firm she used to work at out west). My Mom LOVED having her join us for holiday meals (she was away from her family, having grown up on a midwestern farm) and this neighbor entertained us all with her lively and interesting talk.

    Another example of my Mom's enjoyment of a talker was once Mom and Dad decided to sponsor a student teacher from France (this was certainly Mom's idea) at their otherwise now-empty nest, as there was a need at the local high school for a family to sponsor this young man. So Jacques lived there for that for a year. Jacques was QUITE the talker - very friendly and sociable. When I subbed at that high school some years later, the teachers ALL remembered Jacques and his big and likable personality. Well my Mom just LOVED Jacques the talker. And I think it was because his presence in their home filled a craving she had for interesting conversation. She once said that that was the only thing she would change about Dad - that he would talk more*.

    It was in that year that Jacques lived there, that began shortly after my son was born, that I finally give up on the long held hope that Mom would EVER be enthralled with me or anything I did (even something important like bear her grandchild!), because in spite of the amazing new miracle of life in our lives, that year, all she would talk about was Jacques!

    So I really think, Adam, that someday some lovely ESI women will be SO grateful for your gift of your kind of talk, and of your just being you. That's what's great about duality. Just us being ourselves is what our dual craves. Most of the time. I really think.

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    My dad's parents divorced when he was 3, and he spent his childhood shuffling between two homes on a train from a young age, something that was unusual for that time. And since that marriage broke up with an affair, there was acrimonies between ex- and current wife, and my Dad learned to NOT talk to keep the peace. Mom accredited Dad's lack of talk to that. But I think it had something to do with being an "I" married to an "I"...
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
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    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    You can find LSE's in any kind of middle management, engineering-related job. You can also find them fooling around in their hobby boats or with their hobby motorcycles. Anything which relates to machinery or tools.
    M LSE brother is upper-middle management in enginerring for a company that makes tool parts... Also he can fix about anything including his motorcycle..

    Quote Originally Posted by Adam Strange View Post
    To meet them, just show an interest in their boat or bike (not in them, not in them, that will scare them off), and act helpless but interested. That is honey to the bees. It also helps if you inject the word "respect" into your conversation. All LSE's crave respect, the same way that SLI's crave "appreciation". Aside from that, just be yourself.
    Sounds like useful and spot-on advice!
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
    ........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........


    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
    - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Marep View Post
    Abbie needs to reconsider her type.
    Calling her duals pushovers and seeing some EII behaviorial characteristics as issues is just enough proof.
    I have never seen anyone so at odds with Abbie, and that makes me feel that you are not an EII. Because EIIs just don't get that annoyed with what LSE has to say or how they say it.

    [This is not personal against you. I haven't read your other posts. I have read plenty of Abbie's and I feel quite sure she is LSE. And a LOT of people mistype themselves.]
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
    ........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........


    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
    - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"

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    To answer the OP's question, I know several Dual couples who seem "perfect". There is a SEI/ILE couple I have known for years whose marriage was so interesting to me for it's perfect peaceful harmony (something that marks EVERY dual marriage couple I know, no matter the types). At the time I met them and developed my friendship with the SEI, and observed her marriage in wonder, I was in a bad marriage and it felt good to see that marriage did not always have to be a struggle.

    I know another SEI/ILE couple; the SEI was a roommate in college and we were in each others weddings (my first marriage). What a story for them. They dated, he served jail time (long story) and they married when he got out and he is a very successful businessman today and they have 4 children and they sail and he is quite adventurous. (Both the ILEs in those couples are adventurous and avid breadwinners, while the SEIs do an amazing job devotedly keeping the home fires burning, with their life totally centered on supporting their husband and their family, especially by doing the supportive grunge work, cooking, shopping, cleaning, laundry, errands. Like super thrifty grocery shopping - and just just being very thrifty home managers so hubby's money and time can be available for all his many his grandiose ideas or adventures. Both SEIs as well as my SEI friend here in a Supervision marriage with a LSE are super thrifty home-managers.

    My LSI brother is long-happily married to a vivacious EIE, and it is a most happy pairing. They also have 4 children, just like both previously-mentioned dual couples. It seems to me that the peaceful duality pairing makes it possible to take on more. I noticed that she is the one with the grand ideas (Let's do this and this to the house, or take the whole family on this vacation), and he works to makes them happen.

    Well I thought I knew more Dual couples but I can't think of any others. Maybe it is just the three. I also know at least three conflictor couples and just as the duals have much in common, no matter their types, so do the conflictor couples, no matter the type, and just as harmony and peace is in common for duals, conflict is marked for the conflictors!

    Oh yes! I am in the fourth Dual couple I know of! My 2nd marriage to my Dual is like my SEI friend's, the first couple mentioned above, whose marriage I so long admired, though we are IEE and SLI. For us it is marked peace and harmony, and we are able to accomplish many things together. I love that we can be productive doing and accomplishing things together, rather than like my first marriage, where I was always thinking about working on the marriage and always trying to make it better and figure it out. I spend no thought on such things now. Just on what we will do or accomplish together, and how or in what order we could best do it (I am the planner and project coordinator for our dual pair. My husband will have input at times, but as long as my plans sound reasonable to him he is more than happy to join me to make the things happen that we both want to have happen. Usually he agrees in how I prioritize things (I am always in the process of re-prioritizing as we juggle things) and he is happy to have someone else think through the boring organization of matters like what we should do first and by when. If at times we don't agree on something, we both present our cases and talk it out until we are both quite happy with the plan. So in the end we are always peaceable about what direction we are actually moving in. It's really a good thing.
    Last edited by Eliza Thomason; Yesterday at 05:05 AM.
    "A man with a definite belief always appears bizarre, because he does not change with the world; he has climbed into a fixed star, and the earth whizzes below him like a zoetrope."
    ........ G. ........... K. ............... C ........ H ........ E ...... S ........ T ...... E ........ R ........ T ........ O ........ N ........


    "Having a clear faith, based on the creed of the Church, is often labeled today as fundamentalism... Whereas relativism, which is letting oneself be tossed and swept along
    by every wind of teaching, looks like the only
    attitude acceptable to today's standards."
    - Pope Benedict the XVI, "The Dictatorship of Relativism"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abbie the Child View Post
    Oh yes, I've observed that in my SEI E9 brother. I could get him to do things more easily than anyone else in the family. But my requests were always reasonable. "Wash these pans so I can make dinner for you." rather than, "Throw away these wrappers you're collecting because it's a mess."



    I stole his keyring decoration right in front of his face. I still have it.

    Also I think an LIE typing is particularly silly as I always score highest in Si on tests.
    B&D can vouch for my lack of Ni.

    Though I do see how Tozo would see me as a non-caregiver as I behave more coldly to people who I see as overly sexual. (Sexuality is a huge turn-off.)
    He seems to have mellowed out since I've been gone though.
    I thought we did okay when we met each other. What do you think?
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I thought we did okay when we met each other. What do you think?
    Oh, sure. I never said I dislike EIIs. Just that they have faults, as any person does.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ritella View Post
    Over here, we'll put up with (almost) all of your crap. You just have to use the secret phrase: "I don't value it. It's related to <insert random element here>, which is not in my quadra."
    Quote Originally Posted by Aquagraph View Post
    Abbie is so boring and rigid it's awesome instead of boring and rigid. She seems so practical and down-to-the-ground.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    I have never seen anyone so at odds with Abbie, and that makes me feel that you are not an EII. Because EIIs just don't get that annoyed with what LSE has to say or how they say it.

    [This is not personal against you. I haven't read your other posts. I have read plenty of Abbie's and I feel quite sure she is LSE. And a LOT of people mistype themselves.]
    from his reaction he is most def EII. I just feel like he related too strongly to what she said, it had to strike a nerve or something. Probably felt punched in the Se PoLR, which is why I def think they are EII.

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