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    Along the lines of @xerxe ‘s thread, I’m curious what high S feels like to S-egos. Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types? Do you appreciate the finer things in life? Do you disdain intuitives? Are you Rambo?
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    haha. Yeah, I kinda feel aware of my surroundings. Especially when playing sports I feel like I can get away with a few moves. And I'm good at sports. Sometimes I notice things others do not, sometimes even watching people to see if they notice something, but they don't, and it weirds me out. I have fast reflexes. Sometimes I do not pay attention to my surroundings, but I can afford to do that because I react quickly. Then also saying this as an artist, my surroundings can also change in appearance, kind of like hallucinating, or just in my imagination it changes to appear the way I want it to, and everything is ideal or the opposite like a bomb just hit the area. Or when I'm angry, everything around me melts away. I notice when things are moved from a position it normally is. When I first enter a room, I notice a whole bunch of shit at once with all my senses and it can be overwhelming. I'm good at art and cooking, and using my hands, very dexterous, and practical, and efficient. I like the finer things in life, but I can do without them. And I really appreciate intuitives.

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    Se notice the best physical details, material objects. They also want to control directly those objects and territory, according to Se.
    Even in romance and sex they act in this style - the most aggressive and stubborn, passionate in geting someone, jealous to having him as "own".
    Own body is an object for control kind of too. They have not valued Si, so may load own bodies higher.
    Meanwhile they have valued Ni. They easier may trust in "good outcome". Trust + physical self-control -> good will to go to some aim, they go directly.
    Weak nonvalued Ne makes them a little paranoid and suspicious to people. They feel the most pain if become disappointed by someone. Meanwhile they tend to overesteemate and underesteemate people and themselves, as to understand nuances is not what they like.
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Its less about what they do do and more about what they don’t do. They don’t intellectualize or meta aware inside their heads. As in thought bubbles and thought clouds. Yes they still think, just not as voraciously as non-S types. Life inside the consciousness stream, better yet, life outside of the consciousness stream.

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    Yes im rambo

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    Se you're well aware of territory, boundaries & size. ^^^^ we are rambo

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Its less about what they do do and more about what they don’t do. They don’t intellectualize or meta aware inside their heads. As in thought bubbles and thought clouds. Yes they still think, just not as voraciously as non-S types. Life inside the consciousness stream, better yet, life outside of the consciousness stream.
    Are you high?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Are you high?
    No not at all. What I said must have been super confusing and went over your head. Feeling some SLI vibes from you.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    No not at all. What I said must have been super confusing and went over your head. Feeling some SLI vibes from you.
    Easily some of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on this site. Very impressive.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Easily some of the stupidest posts I've ever seen on this site. Very impressive.
    Okay so you are also a sensor type then.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkcanary View Post
    haha. Yeah, I kinda feel aware of my surroundings. Especially when playing sports I feel like I can get away with a few moves. And I'm good at sports. Sometimes I notice things others do not, sometimes even watching people to see if they notice something, but they don't, and it weirds me out. I have fast reflexes. Sometimes I do not pay attention to my surroundings, but I can afford to do that because I react quickly. Then also saying this as an artist, my surroundings can also change in appearance, kind of like hallucinating, or just in my imagination it changes to appear the way I want it to, and everything is ideal or the opposite like a bomb just hit the area. Or when I'm angry, everything around me melts away. I notice when things are moved from a position it normally is. When I first enter a room, I notice a whole bunch of shit at once with all my senses and it can be overwhelming. I'm good at art and cooking, and using my hands, very dexterous, and practical, and efficient. I like the finer things in life, but I can do without them. And I really appreciate intuitives.
    Same post could have been written by a SLI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Same post could have been written by a SLI.
    You're kinda annoying.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkcanary View Post
    You're kinda annoying.
    Why?

    Because its the same thing a SLI would write?

    How is this annoying., think before you speak.

    edit: because they are also S types...duh. not that you are SLI. Assumptions sure are fun, eh.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Okay so you are also a sensor type then.
    The hurdur im snarter cuz N belongs to the mbti community

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    The hurdur im snarter cuz N belongs to the mbti community
    Intuition is a type of analytical mindframe. Sensing is not. Analytics is a higher, meaning upper level brain process, that plays on top of other background running systems in consciousness.

    Sensing is easier to do for the brain. Hence my original comment.

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Intuition is a type of analytical mindframe. Sensing is not. Analytics is a higher, meaning upper level brain process, that plays on top of other background running systems in consciousness.

    Sensing is easier to do for the brain. Hence my original comment.
    Analytical mindframe is Ti. Why dont you study the theory before making urself look like a retarded bigot

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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Why?

    Because its the same thing a SLI would write?

    How is this annoying., think before you speak.

    edit: because they are also S types...duh. not that you are SLI. Assumptions sure are fun, eh.
    Maybe you are high.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Analytical mindframe is Ti. Why dont you study the theory before making urself look like a retarded bigot
    Fi is also analytical. So is Ne as its processing permutations. Ni is reflective in a way similar to an analysis. So how about you stop being rude and listen to the socionics veterans. Im not the one learning something new here. Check out the wiki for more vocabulary insight.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkcanary View Post
    Maybe you are high.
    Is this for real? I said a SLI would say the same thingg as you because you are both Si. Why are you acting like such a cunt?

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    Quote Originally Posted by pinkcanary View Post
    haha. Yeah, I kinda feel aware of my surroundings. Especially when playing sports I feel like I can get away with a few moves. And I'm good at sports. Sometimes I notice things others do not, sometimes even watching people to see if they notice something, but they don't, and it weirds me out. I have fast reflexes. Sometimes I do not pay attention to my surroundings, but I can afford to do that because I react quickly. Then also saying this as an artist, my surroundings can also change in appearance, kind of like hallucinating, or just in my imagination it changes to appear the way I want it to, and everything is ideal or the opposite like a bomb just hit the area. Or when I'm angry, everything around me melts away. I notice when things are moved from a position it normally is. When I first enter a room, I notice a whole bunch of shit at once with all my senses and it can be overwhelming. I'm good at art and cooking, and using my hands, very dexterous, and practical, and efficient. I like the finer things in life, but I can do without them. And I really appreciate intuitives.
    While I have been the designated driver I tend to prefer to listen what the sensing drunks say about my surroundings. Makes me feel safer than just trusting my own senses.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Fi is also analytical. So is Ne as its processing permutations. Ni is reflective in a way similar to an analysis. So how about you stop being rude and listen to the socionics veterans. Im not the one learning something new here. Check out the wiki for more vocabulary insight.
    Fi is not analytical. please

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Fi is not analytical. please
    except it kinda is. assessing field dynamics.

    • Fi : an analytical state of mind, analysis of personal feeling and stances, harmony or disharmony of personal values and sentiments, endearment, closeness, moral satisfaction, emotional sensitivity, deep personal conviction that may produce moral firmness and resolve

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    Have been sorting old pictures and letters. This letter that I wrote home to my family when I was 17 and just finished freshman orientation at my university gives an idea. As it starts out I thought I was going to be talking about college and orientation and so on, but well, you'll see that's not what I ended up writing about lol.

    Dear everyone,

    Well I registered for my classes. They had a whole bunch of orientation stuff, like campus tours, question & answer times, long boring speeches, etc that were very effective in wasting 2 whole days.

    It’s been very hot here. It was 94 yesterday & it’s supposed to get to the upper 90s today. Today though I won’t take advantage of it too much as I’ll be doing laundry & cleaning.

    It’s strange how some things work. The one time I forget to wear my glove-thingys while rollerblading happens to be when I fall. I haven’t once needed the gloves when I’m wearing them, but as soon as I leave them at home, that’s when I need them. It was super windy with gusts up to 45 mph. I headed up Columbia going over the bridge uphill against the wind was extremely difficult. So, on my way back after about 10 miles of rollerblading I was looking forward to going downhill with the wind. Well turns out, I think that about then (while going downhill) one of those 45 mph gusts decided to blow and I went flying downhill. I tried to slow down with my brake, but to no avail, my speed kept increasing and increasing. Pretty soon everything was just a blur as I was zipping by at about 60. I was mainly concentrating on keeping my feet underneath me, they felt like they wanted to go 2 different directions. The bumpy blur of a sidewalk became the blur of the road (lucky no cars were coming), became the blur of a telephone pole. I grabbed it with my right hand, my feet went out from under me and I was sliding feet first like a baseball player sliding into base. In slow motion I saw my knee (right) scraping along the pavement and I could do nothing about it and knew it would hurt, and felt all my weight collapsing on my left hand. All this in slow-mo. Then I stood up looked at my bruised scraped swollen knees and skated off for home. It wasn’t until I was almost there that I realized that my wrist hurt. I still does & I can barely use my left hand. Well, I guess I should go – get to work on laundry & stuff. I’ll probably talk to you on the phone soon. I love you, have a great day!


    As for the other questions, no I don't disdain intuitives and originally typed as one. When I was first introduced to socionics I thought I was LII in socionics and INTJ in MBTI. I switched to sensing when I realized that although I was a clear IJ type I couldn't reconcile Se-polr with who I was as a person, my life, the things I did and focused on. The letter I posted above is one of many similar letters I've written. I always mention what's happening right at the moment that I'm writing and the events I tend to find interesting enough to write about tend to lie in the physical realm. BUT the idea that anyone is entirely focused in one realm is ridiculous imo. None of us are just one thing, nor are our abilities so limited that we can't spend time in other realms. People aren't so simple. Although we have tendencies and natural preferences we're more clay than rock, and more faceted than one-sided. The more I study other people and myself, the more I realize that a lifetime couldn't sort out all their depths.

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    wth of a letter was that

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Along the lines of @xerxe ‘s thread, I’m curious what high S feels like to S-egos.
    it feels like tired feet, sleepiness, heat headache and more.

    Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types?
    I don't think Si types are more aware than Ne leads about external world. But I'm more aware of my physical state and body processes and functions. I'm more up to take care of surroundings than intuitives and probably its easier and I'm better at it (like they can be quite impractical or clumsy).

    Do you appreciate the finer things in life?
    not sure what do you mean.



    Do you disdain intuitives?
    Sometimes. Especially in daily life (at home or work) when they are egoistical, self centered, impractical, wasteful, lazy and inconsiderate. And even more if they have pretty shitty attitude. Like when they think I should treat them as if they were 14 (and they are +40) so I should act like their mom and/or maid, or when they are in victim mentality or depressive state sinking on self pity or self indulgence (for years).


    Are you Rambo?



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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    Intuition is a type of analytical mindframe. Sensing is not. Analytics is a higher, meaning upper level brain process, that plays on top of other background running systems in consciousness.

    Sensing is easier to do for the brain. Hence my original comment.
    Well - theoretically, neither intuition nor sensing is ''analytical'' in nature, as the whole idea of ''perception'' in Socionics refers to something that is an immediate process, something that takes precedence over the ''analysis'', which in Socionics refers to logics and ethics. The conscious, analytical, decisive mind is thus geared towards logical and ethical processes, not intuitive or sensory.

    I'm not sure what you mean by ''easier to do for the brain''? Theoretically, each TIM finds difficulties and challenges in separate fields of processing - to dive into imagination or to perceive externality or stimuli with nuance is easy for some and hard for others. (theoretically, i'm not even positive in the so called division between sensory and imaginary processes)

    What do you type as, btw?
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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Well - theoretically, neither intuition nor sensing is ''analytical'' in nature, as the whole idea of ''perception'' in Socionics refers to something that is an immediate process, something that takes precedence over the ''analysis'', which in Socionics refers to logics and ethics. The conscious, analytical, decisive mind is thus geared towards logical and ethical processes, not intuitive or sensory.

    I'm not sure what you mean by ''easier to do for the brain''? Theoretically, each TIM finds difficulties and challenges in separate fields of processing - to dive into imagination or to perceive externality or stimuli with nuance is easy for some and hard for others. (theoretically, i'm not even positive in the so called division between sensory and imaginary processes)

    What do you type as, btw?
    Just like someone could exert pressure to their surroundings or tune into their surroundings (note: this is irrational) as in sensing and intuition also does similar things like noting the "irrational currency of the information" or just extrapolating/interpolating it based on quite random databases.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Nihilist 007 View Post
    Just like someone could exert pressure to their surroundings or tune into their surroundings (note: this is irrational) as in sensing and intuition also does similar things like noting the "irrational currency of the information" or just extrapolating/interpolating it based on quite random databases.
    Yes: the perception notes the need for stability and algorithm in the input/output of information, as the perception extrapolates based on an idea of unity - there is a common ground for all information in nature, not just in how i process it through ''judging'' elements. P types are absolutists in this regard, even with the reflection on the need for division and stability in information.
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    Quote Originally Posted by waddup View Post
    except it kinda is. assessing field dynamics.
    I wouldnt choose the word analysis. You know analysis inherently uses logic right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    Well - theoretically, neither intuition nor sensing is ''analytical'' in nature, as the whole idea of ''perception'' in Socionics refers to something that is an immediate process, something that takes precedence over the ''analysis'', which in Socionics refers to logics and ethics. The conscious, analytical, decisive mind is thus geared towards logical and ethical processes, not intuitive or sensory.

    I'm not sure what you mean by ''easier to do for the brain''? Theoretically, each TIM finds difficulties and challenges in separate fields of processing - to dive into imagination or to perceive externality or stimuli with nuance is easy for some and hard for others. (theoretically, i'm not even positive in the so called division between sensory and imaginary processes)

    What do you type as, btw?
    The cortex grows on top of the limbic and is therefor physically above the more primitive brain. Comfortable and uncomfortable, even a simple cell knows what is right for itself, yet cannot cognatize such awareness. It just knows.

    Alter your consciousness enough and you will notice which IE is first noticable for the organism. It goes >Si>Se>Fe —- a creature must detect (Si) and then it must move (Se). Movement becomes a function of relational ethics (Fe with other creatures and environmental factors).

    then any mix of Te, Fi, Ni, Ne, later.

    Function placement becomes necessary then for higher order process. The brain does sensing first for any creature. The rest plays over top of it. This is why intuitive thinkers, all intuitives, lie on the spectrum seemingly most divorced from their bodies. Which is okay as it serves some purpose and why it continues throughout time (advantages).

    Continuing its for the same reason their sensing duals of any flavour are commonly conceived as being more natural, more Earthy, in some fashion, intuitively so because they are not twice removed from that central core physical connectedness to their root limbic, sensate processing and not arguably hypnotized, in an genetically determined, yet uncontrollable way by higher order meta awareness that is required of the brainier, loftier informational elements.

    An animal doesn’t Te, it instincts its next moves. This means Te requires higher order thought process in a large Cortex.

    The scaffolding of how it all plays out inside each individual is up for discussion.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    I wouldnt choose the word analysis. You know analysis inherently uses logic right?
    Right, gotcha.

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    Smoking and other bad habits are simply an attempt to feel more present in the moment, which is a function of sensing. Even though it is in a ultimately destructive way. This is why you get sensors who smoke. The human animal has found all kinds of ways of bypassing its normal operating systems and using outside influences to alter its inner chemistry. People are just really smart and also really instinctual beings with access to technology and chemistry from the environment. As unhealthy as smoking is it has a pay off and that pay off was built into your biology, in fact that biology is you. It is a mutli edged dagger as with its benefits it brings harm, yet the balance of which shows meta-analysis maturity, other IEs, and is therefore a discordant attempt to feel something which means its a form of mental dis-order: that which causes distress. Not good, not bad, just is.

    It could be argued everything that what we did as a species got us to this point, including smoking tobacco.

    How many sailors relied on a midnight smoke to make it through their watch? ——> this is a meta thought.

    The more primitive, sensing awareness of my mind was feeling the floor beneath my feet and my bum in my chair and the sound of the air conditioner, all playing first and foremost while I write this post. The same goes for each person reading it. Sensing in both varieties is always base line for every human. What I am saying is absolutely, fundamentally and undeniably correct.

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    This isnt an attempt to rate some kind of scale in order of importance. In the conception of human reality in the context of socionics, the order of importance does not exist.

    However, the order of process does. Sensing is first, which is why spiritual traditions support its exploration because it helps break down normal stream of consciousness, monkey mind. By breaking down monkey mind is a way to experience possible ego death, but that is besides the point.

    Sensing is foundational. Take that as you will.

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    It’s probably exactly what you think it is.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Along the lines of @xerxe ‘s thread, I’m curious what high S feels like to S-egos.
    Do you feel like you’re more aware of surroundings than intuitive types?
    Not always, but generally. Yes.
    Do you appreciate the finer things in life?
    Do you as an intuitive type not appreciate material things?

    I think all types appreciate both material and immaterial things. However, I tend to prioritize that a certain standard for material comfort or resources is reached first.

    Do you disdain intuitives?
    No. Like some other sensors or ‘S egos’ (is that our AA-approved term now?), I used to identify as one.

    Are you Rambo?
    Sometimes I do feel like that, as an Se leading type. Other times, I feel ironically gentle and disconnected. Jung implied the DS function has the second strongest influence on a person’s psyche.

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    This question is very abstract. S ego can mean Si or Se, and base or creative

    Being S base feels alot different than just S creative, and Si/Se feels alot different also. Better to narrow it down

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    Quote Originally Posted by sbbds View Post
    It’s probably exactly what you think it is.
    Incomprehensibly mysterious?! Totally alien?! As wonderful and terrifying as the face of God?!

    Do you as an intuitive type not appreciate material things?
    It’s simple logic: if sensors are better-attuned to physical reality, than intuitives, as their opposites, must be ascetic and entirely unconcerned with physical reality. QED.

    I think all types appreciate both material and immaterial things. However, I tend to prioritize that a certain standard for material comfort or resources is reached first.
    Reached before what?

    No. Like some other sensors or ‘S egos’ (is that our AA-approved term now?), I used to identify as one.
    Sorry; as an intuitive I’m physiologically incapable of coming up with simple and descriptive terms like “sensor.” That’s why intuitives need sensors, and the harmony of the Socion is made manifest. Sen-sors. What a beautifully succinct word!

    Sometimes I do feel like that, as an Se leading type. Other times, I feel ironically gentle and disconnected. Jung implied the DS function has the second strongest influence on a person’s psyche.
    Se seems at odds with gentleness to you? I ask because I tend to feel that Se’s equation with aggression or whatever is a mischaracterization, so I’m curious if an Se ego feels otherwise.
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    @FreelancePoliceman Reached before immaterial satisfaction

    I don’t think it’s a mischaracterization but maybe tends to focus on exaggerated manifestations of aggressive Se. Jung implies there is balance in the psyche. So there is definitely more conscious focus on force and power stuff but there’s also the opposite still present there too. Only the presence of black and white simultaneously makes them each able to exist blah blah.

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    Frankly I feel like my sociotype is the only one that has its Maslow’s pyramid the right side up.

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    I've been thinking I should up the dose on my fatigue meds and an IEI pointed out that I must have energy cuz in 3 days I accomplished what it would take him 2 weeks to do. But it's not because it actually needed to be done right away or that Im a better person. Its just that getting out and doing shit is where I find my life juice so to speak. Doing his reading and writing and intellectual pursuits wouldn't fill me up the same way even though there's value in it.

    I don't notice being especially aware of my surroundings except with my IEE friend who tasks me with locating where she parked her car lol. And I'm not especially into the finer things in life, I think, though some ppl seem ok with squalor, so maybe a tad comparatively?

    I also typed intuitive at first. Y'all are the shit .

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    In any case - there is an impenetrable wall to the world that only Se base types can breach. I always feel 'closed off', like i'm stuck behind some cosmic membrane that refuses to let me see things for what they really are... The real world i only stick my toes in to gain materials for my own creations. I just feel really subjective.
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