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    Default Was Ausra Augusta not ILE?

    I'm going to give an answer: she does not VI as ILE to me - but that is all I can really say. I remember writing in the past that she does not seem ILE to me at all, but I have seen a number of cases in which someone seems a certain way in pictures, but they come off very different in person. However, I have to admit there is a possibility (not necessity) that she comes off as a different type than how she typed herself.

    In any event, discuss this issue please...

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_m View Post
    I'm going to give an answer: she does not VI as ILE to me - but that is all I can really say. I remember writing in the past that she does not seem ILE to me at all, but I have seen a number of cases in which someone seems a certain way in pictures, but they come off very different in person. However, I have to admit there is a possibility (not necessity) that she comes off as a different type than how she typed herself.

    In any event, discuss this issue please...
    She reminds me faintly of Richard Dawkins. VI-wise

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    ILI-Te and her VI templates were atrocious....

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    Looks quite bit of ILE to me although she is quite stone faced in her photos. Probably because she had to deal with relations between people. Would wear anyone down when PoLR-ing life.
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    the fact she mistypes herself ILE shows just how awful her VI templates are...I mean, she comes out wrong on her own type and that's using her own VI templates. Very bad.

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    Uh, since she actually created Socionics, how can she be wrongly typed in it? The perception that she’s some other type is only a piece of the abundant and obvious evidence that Socionics has drifted and splintered into many divergent versions of itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    Uh, since she actually created Socionics, how can she be wrongly typed in it? The perception that she’s some other type is only a piece of the abundant and obvious evidence that Socionics has drifted and splintered into many divergent versions of itself.
    If she was not, perhaps Socionics is fundamentally broken — in which case we have no choice but to move to personalitycafe.
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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    Uh, since she actually created Socionics, how can she be wrongly typed in it? The perception that she’s some other type is only a piece of the abundant and obvious evidence that Socionics has drifted and splintered into many divergent versions of itself.
    Maybe she was more 'Ni' than 'Ne' or 'Ti' than 'Te' in the Jungian system that preceded it, and she confused which functions she actually had... I look at those pictures and I see a lot of Se. Maybe she was SeTi and didn't realize how strong-willed she was... But this is just speculation. Like Kill4Me said, those are terrible templates to use for any kind of VI... They're probably just not accurate...

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    If she was not, perhaps Socionics is fundamentally broken — in which case we have no choice but to move to personalitycafe.
    I'd post at personalitycafe even if it's not broken. I study the MBTI, the Enneagram and Socionics. I am not really attached to any system, and I'll study any of them..,

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    This sort of reasoning sound like it is coming from IEI head as only their own truth carries significance instead of trying to calibrate one's own own understanding to external factors which is a necessity in order of trying to handle it.


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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_m View Post
    I'd post at personalitycafe even if it's not broken. I study the MBTI, the Enneagram and Socionics. I am not really attached to any system, and I'll study any of them..,
    Well go post there man; it’s more active!
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    This thread needs better typing material...







    In the following video she also speaks at 1:30



    Looks ILE Creative to me.

    If you want to search for more videos type "Аушра Аугустинавичюте" in youtube

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    This thread needs better typing material...







    In the following video she also speaks at 1:30



    Looks ILE Creative to me.

    If you want to search for more videos type "Аушра Аугустинавичюте" in youtube
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    I'm not sure in her ILE. Old people are harder to type by VI. Among other possible is EIE.
    Jung mistaked about own type as LII, while he had ILI

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    Quote Originally Posted by golden View Post
    Uh, since she actually created Socionics, how can she be wrongly typed in it?
    So the one who created, for example, a rifle can't miss by it. Nice example of irrational Fe idealism.

    She "actually" created some hypotheses - additions to Jung's types. A theory. This does not mean she was good in practical usage of Jung's typology and that new theory. She should do a lot of mistypings as anyone, some of them are seen in her actors list. Could mistake in own type too, alike Jung did and some other well-known authors.
    Also some of her hypotheses mb wrong - it needs experimental basis to be sure in other. I'm sure in some theory she was wrong. Sometimes she controverts to Jung clearly without any good basis.
    The most known her controvertion to Jung - what function is the weakest. The intersting is that not lesser popular Russian name for 4th function is "pain function" - and that is more correct, than "point of least resistance" / weakest. If you have lesser pain due to anesthesia of lesser conscious state - this does not mean there are lesser problems.
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    ''So the one who created, for example, a rifle can't miss by it.''
    Depends what one is shooting at. The assumption that the external world must confirm the theory empirically isn't necessarily what any theory shoots for. The divergent system of Socionics separate from Ausra may see more value in this? In any case, i cannot speak for the internal consistency of her writings.
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    Should have responded sooner: the videos tell a different story. To me, she seems incredibly ILE in them... (I was getting something like Ayn Rand from the pictures and I don't want to talk about it.)

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    Quote Originally Posted by jason_m View Post
    Should have responded sooner: the videos tell a different story. To me, she seems incredibly ILE in them... (I was getting something like Ayn Rand from the pictures and I don't want to talk about it.)
    she looks emotional
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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    This thread needs better typing material...







    In the following video she also speaks at 1:30



    Looks ILE Creative to me.

    If you want to search for more videos type "Аушра Аугустинавичюте" in youtube
    Can anyone translate?

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    Quote Originally Posted by thehotelambush View Post
    Can anyone translate?
    there is autotranslate option
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    Aushra Augustinavichiute (The old lady on the video clip) - ENFP - Huxley




    Huxley is at the left side and Dostoevsky appears to be at the right side. How is that possible? They may not be the same person.


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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post

    Huxley is at the left side and Dostoevsky appears to be at the right side. How is that possible? They may not be the same person.
    A double.


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