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    Default Type the 2020 Democratic Candidates for President of the United States

    This list is by no means exhaustive, because I don't have enough time in the fucking day to keep track of the ever expanding primary. Most of the candidates below have at least been featured in the latest polls and possess a greater degree of name recognition.

    Joe Biden - EIE
    Bernie Sanders - LSE
    Elizabeth Warren - IEE
    Kamala Harris - EIE
    Pete Buttigieg - EIE
    Corey Booker - EIE
    Amy Klobuchar - LSE
    Beto O'Rourke - IEI-Fe
    Tulsi Gabbard - SLE
    Kirstin Gillibrand - EIE
    Julian Castro - EIE
    Andrew Yang - ILI-Te
    Eric Swallwell - LIE
    Bill De Blasio - IEE
    Michael Bennet - LIE
    Marianne Williamson - EIE

    FFS, NO MORE BETA QUADRA.

    P.S. Most of the EIEs are enneagram 3s, who are pragmatic, ambitious, competent, efficient and superficially/stereotypically may seem like "T" types at first glance, but upon closer inspection, Fe shenanigations all day!
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    I'd stick my ballot in Tulsi's box.

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    I only agree with Alonzo on Tulsi SLE Liz Warren IEE
     
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    My very vague impressions are that Beto O'Rourke is EIE and Andrew Yang is LIE. Haven't looked at most of the others.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perpetual Now View Post
    I'd stick my ballot in Tulsi's box.
    Is that innuendo? Regardless she is the most sane out of all of them, which is why she'll do poorly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolus View Post
    Is that innuendo? Regardless she is the most sane out of all of them, which is why she'll do poorly.
    It's innuendo but my support and admiration for her as a candidate is also genuine. She's about the only one in the democrat field I would feel confident voting for. I also happen to think she's a sexy surfer chick.

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    Marianne Williamson?
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    Quote Originally Posted by andreasdevig View Post
    Marianne Williamson?
    EIE. I think that Beta NFs are heeding the war call to sanction that Tang colored, phone booth shaped Beta ST sinkhole currently occupying the White House--I say, let them decimate each other during the primaries. lol As long as a Delta rises from the ashes, I'll be satisfied and I think the country will be better off. I'm so sick of Fe, whether for "good" or "ill" intent, holding court in American politics. It's time for something else.

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    I wish I hadn't seen this thread, if those typings are true, the field is pure cancer.

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    The only two 2020 Democratic candidates I like are Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard. Both are intelligent, competent and have original ideas. I don't agree with all of their policies, but they seem to be the most anti-establishment out of all the candidates. The rest of the 2020 Democratic candidates seem either incompetent or corrupt or both.

    Andrew Yang seems like an obvious NT. I thought he was LII initially tbh, but gamma NT is possible. This is him talking about inevitable automation taking over the workforce in the near future:



    Here he talks about the need for UBI because of automation:



    Tulsi Gabbard might be SLE, but to be honest I've never really thought about her type. I just liked her background on what she did in the past and she's strong on foreign policy. This is her talking about foreign policy:



    Tulsi describing the corruption in the DNC with super delegates from the 2016 election that was eventually removed:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Andrew Yang seems like an obvious NT, I thought he was LII initially tbh, but gamma NT is possible.
    https://twitter.com/AndrewYang/statu...55304429121536

    Yeah, he said on Twitter that he's an INTJ. And I agree with you, I like Andrew Yang, as well.

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    Joe Biden - EIE
    Bernie Sanders - IEE
    Elizabeth Warren - IEE
    Kamala Harris - LIE (? 80%)
    Beto O'Rourke - ILE
    Pete Buttigieg - LSI (? 65%)
    Kirsten Gillibrand - LSE

    edit: Andrew Yang - Based on the one brief time I've seen him on TV and the first video above + his self report + google image'ing him just now, I am comfortable agreeing with ILI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    EIE. I think that Beta NFs are heeding the war call to sanction that Tang colored, phone booth shaped Beta ST sinkhole currently occupying the White House--I say, let them decimate each other during the primaries. lol As long as a Delta rises from the ashes, I'll be satisfied and I think the country will be better off. I'm so sick of Fe, whether for "good" or "ill" intent, holding court in American politics. It's time for something else.
    She does seem to have that Fe-ness going on.

    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    The only two 2020 Democratic candidates I like are Andrew Yang and Tulsi Gabbard.
    I like them too (though I wish the opt-in thing wasn't part of Yang's UBI thang), but why do you like them but not Bernie or Marianne? I see a lot of people, particularly on the right, who somehow like Gabbard and Yang yet hate on Bernie. I don't understand it.
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    Joe Biden - mb EIE
    Bernie Sanders - mb ILI
    Elizabeth Warren - mb LSI
    Kamala Harris - IEI
    Pete Buttigieg - mb ILE
    Corey Booker - mb EIE
    Beto O'Rourke - not IEI
    Tulsi Gabbard - pretty woman. not so weird as SLE
    Bill De Blasio - mb ILI
    Michael Bennet - mb ESI
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    It sickens me the way the Dem establishment's favorite media outlets are already trying to sandbag Tulsi and paint her as some sort of hawkish neocon. I think it's retribution for her jumping ship to support Bernie during the 2016 primaries. I just hope she's cunning enough to sidestep their attempts to discredit her. She really is the best option in the field at this point and they're shooting themselves in the feet by trying to eliminate her.

    I have little doubt the eventual nominee will make many of the same mistakes Hillary made in 2020. It's tragically funny to watch the Democrats crashing in the same car and in the same way as they did before. It's like it's happening in slow motion, like those slow-mo videos of people getting hit in the head with water balloons. For self-labelled progressives, democrats seem to be really bad at forecasting, reading the cultural tides, and tend to repeat a lot of the same mistakes they've been making for decades.

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    Quote Originally Posted by andreasdevig View Post
    I like them too (though I wish the opt-in thing wasn't part of Yang's UBI thang), but why do you like them but not Bernie or Marianne? I see a lot of people, particularly on the right, who somehow like Gabbard and Yang yet hate on Bernie. I don't understand it.
    I like Bernie too, but I like Yang and Gabbard more. Politically, if I was forced to choose, I am likely a centrist or left libertarian, but I have plenty of views that fall in the left or right. I also think the left/right dichotomy is simplistic and flawed and it should be taken with a grain of salt. Back in the 2016 election, I favored Sanders over Clinton. Largely because I liked his ideas, but also because he didn't seem corrupted by the political and business sphere in the way Clinton clearly was.

    Sanders has some haters on the left after supporting Clinton in the 2016 election, but I don't blame him. It would of been basically political suicide to not endorse her. His haters on the right say he is too extreme on the left, but most of his policies would be center left in countries outside of the US. Also, Yang and Gabbard have many political views that are similar to Sanders that could be branded as extreme left by the right despite their differences so I agree that it is odd to like Yang and Gabbard, but dislike Sanders.
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    What is the reasoning behind EIE for Biden?

    Bernie - Maybe LII

    Tulsi Gabbard - LIE

    Elizabeth Warren - FJ type.

    Corey Booker - SEE


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    Quote Originally Posted by andreasdevig View Post
    I like them too (though I wish the opt-in thing wasn't part of Yang's UBI thang), but why do you like them but not Bernie or Marianne? I see a lot of people, particularly on the right, who somehow like Gabbard and Yang yet hate on Bernie. I don't understand it.
    Sanders has shown that he's unwilling to go against the "establishment" Democrats on foreign policy and in recent years he's restrained his democratic socialism to something more akin to what AOC and Warren are now pushing.

    The people on the right who like Gabbard and Yang are former MAGA types searching for a candidate who will actually go against the Washington political mainstream.

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    Trump getting re-elected would be a riot to see.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    What is the reasoning behind EIE for Biden?


    For starters, he is one of the most perfect embodiments of what Fe, done masterfully, can do > Fe is the "ethics of actions" and Biden changing his seat (due to being able to dynamically pick up the active emotional states within the environment) in order to sit beside Meghan McCain and warmly hold her hand as she cried, while telling a few humorous anecdotes (that altered her emotional state in making her laugh) and giving her environmentally appropriate, "tonally" sound reasons to be hopeful/optimistic about the future (as he also made this advice "open" and inclusive to the audience, subsequently creating a noticeable effect on them) was an excellent example of Fe being used to impact the emotional and social space via an expressive combination of words and gestures.

    The use of Ni was evident in his generalizing/abstracting/reflecting upon past events from memory in order to articulate and evaluate what he believes is going to happen in the future, and, indirectly, what should be done in the present moment--Ni often has the intended/unintended effect of imparting patience and "stillness," from the standpoint that "we will get there, in time, so just take it easy for now." Also, though any type can use metaphors, what often distinguishes sensors from intuitives is the degree to which intuitive types prefer to use metaphorical speech when making a point or insight. Biden often says things like "her dad came after me Hammer and Tong, like we were two brothers somehow raised by different fathers or something, due to our different points of view."

    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Bernie - Maybe LII




    Seeing as how LSEs and LIIs are "mirages," I guess LII is not too off the mark but NAH. First off, Bernie ain't an introvert--his strong, conscious 4D Te "bluntness" and unconscious 4D Se "force" comes through in the gruff, matter of fact coarseness in how he speaks and his angular, projected and pointed gesticulations (while his body remains tense). And if you fluently speak Te, his Te, ever in the form of facts/stats used towards some logical evaluation/assessment and buttressed by a fuck ton of stored 3D Si sense impression recall, should hit you like a freight train. He quickly recalls and repeats the same data, over and over and over and over again, as if on auto pilot. And he does this with the aim of finding pragmatic solutions that will systematically work for everyone. Also, Bernie does not tend to use much abstracted, metaphorical, conceptual speech; he tends to speak in a rather literal, down to earth and reality oriented fashion.

    Moreover, I'm not saying this is you, but a lot of folks (particularly within an American context) seem to think that LSE politicians can't be very progressive and left leaning (which, admittedly, is often under girded by strong intuition), most likely because of the sheer volume LSEs/strong, conscious Si valuers take up among Republicans/Conservatives (probably linked to Si's predisposition towards preserving past sense experiences = being "traditional"). But, overall, LSEs often have the desire to apply their extroverted logic to some formal institution and this is frequently seen throughout the political and legal systems, in hopes of contributing to society, no matter their respective political leanings.

    Also, like most who value Fi, Bernie often speaks self-referentially when imparting a specific point of view, i.e., to me, for me, I feel that, I believe, etc....

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    Quote Originally Posted by Carolus View Post
    Sanders has shown that he's unwilling to go against the "establishment" Democrats on foreign policy and in recent years he's restrained his democratic socialism to something more akin to what AOC and Warren are now pushing.
    Do you want to elaborate on that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Trump getting re-elected would be a riot to see.
    there might be riots if he's re-elected.

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    Bernie Sanders


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