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    At the end of this Armenian program an SEE instructs EII to be strong. He says “don’t bend your neck in front of anyone; don’t be meek and others will look at you differently”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbLyZSOxv8
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    At the end of this Armenian program an SEE instructs EII to be strong. He says “don’t bend your neck in front of anyone; don’t be meek and others will look at you differently”

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=vRbLyZSOxv8
    Yeah body language matters greatly in how people perceive you. But take it from an IEE, Take no notice, the two SEE's I've had to live with, I couldn't stand (no offense). Its the Se with Fi, it makes them power trippers and highly manipulative. Not all SEE are like this, but over extended periods they do my head in...

    I actually get a long ok with SLE's, if you think about it they have si and te in the id.

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    Many SEEs seem to view EIIs as impractical and not 'out in the real world' enough to be truly effective; they don't seem to even applaud EIIs who are recognized by others as far more accomplished than themselves. SEEs seem to appreciate little from EIIs except perhaps physically tangible things; SEEs tend not to see the value in holistic views unless they're broken down into concrete terms, which is a weakness - and their loss......

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    My mom is a SEE and I am an EII. She always try to be the dominant one. I don't like to be dominated even though I look passive. I cannot let someone to be superior over me. I don't like people to say what I should do or don't. When this happens I reply them too severe. Normally I am very calm and accommodating but you can see me shouting at someone when I feel threat. SEEs think they can establish superority over EIIs because EIIs are demure. I like some SEEs who have good ethical aspects, not all of them are bad. But when I look in general, many of them are cannot be educated and be communicated (because they generally refuse communication and they like to argue)
    They might be the world's best person when they are in a good mood and they might be the worst person when they are furious. And they can blow up easily. Being with a SEE is like walking on a rope. And most of them won't change. As years pass, they might think about their actions and they may be calmer, but their desire to be dominant won't go. My 20+ years of SEE experience knows this.

    In a relationship SEE and EII may have a short term relationship but long term relationship is not eventual...
    If you are an EII and struggle with a SEE, don't shout at SEEs. This will get angry them and they may resort to physical violence. Don't be passive nor dominant. Don't talk kindly (this will make think them they are dominant over you and they will force you what they want to make you to do) or don't act fiercely (this will make think them they are not dominant over you and they'll be furious) Just say: "no because ..." and don't say anything. Don't give them attention but listen them and answer them, with short answers. You can judge them by their acts. Like: "Look at you, you got mad because of this trivial thing, I cannot believe in you. If someone sees you, he would laugh at your acts." This will make change their focus on another way.
    But the best way is being away from Se users. Hope this will be helpful.

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    I learned to be at peace with high Se users by simply not bending to their will. That usually solves the problem.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    I learned to be at peace with high Se users by simply not bending to their will. That usually solves the problem.
    Fe ignore probably helps with that.

    Imagine the poor LII.



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    Short, sharp-shock. Thanks. @Lord Pixel

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    I learned to be at peace with high Se users by simply not bending to their will. That usually solves the problem.
    LSE&SLE both yield to because in reinin dichotomies both yielding not obstinate.
    (My name is Yon Yonson,
    I live in Wisconsin.
    I work in a lumber yard there.
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    I walk down the street,
    They say "Hello!"
    I say "Hello!"
    They say "What's your name?"
    I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...

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    Quote Originally Posted by CosmicCat View Post
    LSE&SLE both yield to because in reinin dichotomies both yielding not obstinate.
    Sorry, what's the black ball again? Si or Se?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    Sorry, what's the black ball again? Si or Se?
    Se. LSE&SLE both yield to Se because in reinin dichotomies both subside in yielding not obstinate.
    (My name is Yon Yonson,
    I live in Wisconsin.
    I work in a lumber yard there.
    The people I meet as
    I walk down the street,
    They say "Hello!"
    I say "Hello!"
    They say "What's your name?"
    I say: (My name is Yon Yonson...

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