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    What contributions can IEIs give to the world right now? How can they be useful in the short-term? What kind of service could an IEI start doing right now with NiFe (or just Ni)?
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    Reality is a canvas Ni imposes its imagination/inner world upon so what IEI brings to the world is typically a revolution in some form.

    NiFe converts inner worlds into new modes of expression...NiTe converts inner worlds into new modes of thought.

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    to bring beliefs in unicorns
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    to bring beliefs in unicorns
    Funny

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    to bring beliefs in unicorns
    Without beliefs humanity would still be in caves scratching rocks together.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Reality is a canvas Ni imposes its imagination/inner world upon so what IEI brings to the world is typically a revolution in some form.

    NiFe converts inner worlds into new modes of expression...NiTe converts inner worlds into new modes of thought.
    Ur nife is really fi se or fi ne

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    Make sure SLE consider others and to do things on time lol
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Make sure SLE consider others and to do things on time lol
    I hope an LSE makes sure u wont get banned

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    Don't take this stuff too seriously, it's about as accurate and useful as astrology.

    But then again some people on here think astrology is very accurate and useful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    Funny
    EII confirmed

    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Without beliefs humanity would still be in caves scratching rocks together.
    sure. only unicorns may save the humanity
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Singu View Post
    Don't take this stuff too seriously, it's about as accurate and useful as astrology.

    But then again some people on here think astrology is very accurate and useful.
    And some pretend they dont think its useful but they still stick around

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    I hope an LSE makes sure u wont get banned
    You’re a very small person if somehow you think that getting banned from this place matters at all.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    You’re a very small person if somehow you think that getting banned from this place matters at all
    Oh shit

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    And some pretend they dont think its useful but they still stick around
    What function is this everybody????

    Don’t you have anything better to do than to pretend to be ESTP?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    What function is this everybody????
    Idk

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    IEI are sadists for affecting ppl emotionally w their creations (and excel at it) so that prolly has smth to do with it

    think sylvia plath and edgar allen poe. i think neil gaiman is another IEI writer as well
    “Do not think of yourself as above or below anyone else.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    You’re a very small person if somehow you think that getting banned from this place matters at all.
    What function is that?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    What function is that?
    Idk genius you tell me
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Idk genius you tell me
    My mind is clueless please enlighten me

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    My mind is clueless please enlighten me
    No
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    No
    Awww now i feel bad

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    “My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.”​ —C.G. Jung

     



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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    Too much crack babe

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post



    sure. only unicorns may save the humanity
    Everything that we are comes from everything we were. Believing in the impossible is what gave us the force necessary to obtain it.

    Dreaming up the hunt made the hunt successful. Maybe the animal came towards the arrow and not the arrow towards the animal?

    It sounds like non-sense, but can you be sure it’s not?

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    Sequential memory and value judgements. IEI is top tier at making subjective evaluations on actions and juxtaposing them with ideals.

    If theres any social mission IEI is particularly equipped to handle, its adapting themselves into a good person adhering to their ideals. However, thats only true if theyre strong enough to honestly confront themselves about the negatives they bring into the world with their actions. Most people(IEIs included) are not.

    TL;DR - Embodying the character of someone who makes the world a better place, for others to learn from.
    Projection is ordinary. Person A projects at person B, hoping tovalidate something about person A by the response of person B. However, person B, not wanting to be an obejct of someone elses ego and guarding against existential terror constructs a personality which protects his ego and maintain a certain sense of a robust and real self that is different and separate from person A. Sadly, this robust and real self, cut off by defenses of character from the rest of the world, is quite vulnerable and fragile given that it is imaginary and propped up through external feed back. Person B is dimly aware of this and defends against it all the more, even desperately projecting his anxieties back onto person A, with the hope of shoring up his ego with salubrious validation. All of this happens without A or B acknowledging it, of course. Because to face up to it consciously is shocking, in that this is all anybody is doing or can do and it seems absurd when you realize how pathetic it is.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Everything that we are comes from everything we were. Believing in the impossible is what gave us the force necessary to obtain it.

    Dreaming up the hunt made the hunt successful. Maybe the animal came towards the arrow and not the arrow towards the animal?

    It sounds like non-sense, but can you be sure it’s not?
    Waay too much crack

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    Waay too much crack
    Do you need a hug or something. You’ve been up in people’s grills all week.
    Maybe the animal was inevitably meant to hit the arrow. Maybe chance is the illusion.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Do you need a hug or something. You’ve been up in people’s grills all week.
    Maybe the animal was inevitably meant to hit the arrow. Maybe chance is the illusion.
    He thinks doing so is Se
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Do you need a hug or something. You’ve been up in people’s grills all week.
    Maybe the animal was inevitably meant to hit the arrow. Maybe chance is the illusion.
    maybe douchebag is pretentious

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    He thinks doing so is Se
    nope its Te

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    What contributions can IEIs give to the world right now? How can they be useful on the short-term? What kind of service could an IEI start doing right now with NiFe (or just Ni)?
    I honestly suggest re-thinking your type.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    I honestly suggest re-thinking your type.
    Not sure about that particular user but I can say the same for a few of the users who have commented on here

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    Quote Originally Posted by Blackberry View Post
    I honestly suggest re-thinking your type.
    Man, I do it all the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Make sure SLE consider others and to do things on time lol
    What if they secretly enjoy it that SLE does not play by the rules and consider others?

    The time thing is a non-starter. Everything in its time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Number 9 large View Post
    maybe douchebag is pretentious
    Lol. Right. That’s what this is. Okay there buddy guy.

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    It differs depending on factors definitely.

    Very likely that IEIs are from the NF temperament in MBTI, so you'll see usual NF behaviours i.e high standards of being a good person, strong ideals, desire to believe in those ideals and stand up for them.

    In the short term, IEIs can provide kindness, upholding their high standards, a sparkling human and a wonderful imagination. Some people mistype IEIs as EIIs when an IEI stands up for their ideal as this conflicts with socio Fe.

    I hope this explanation makes sense.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaderLightChange View Post
    It differs depending on factors definitely.

    Very likely that IEIs are from the NF temperament in MBTI, so you'll see usual NF behaviours i.e high standards of being a good person, strong ideals, desire to believe in those ideals and stand up for them.

    In the short term, IEIs can provide kindness, upholding their high standards, a sparkling human and a wonderful imagination. Some people mistype IEIs as EIIs when an IEI stands up for their ideal as this conflicts with socio Fe.

    I hope this explanation makes sense.
    Makes a lot of sense

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    Man, I do it all the time
    Dw about it , everyone who comes across the surface of typology struggles with that, it takes time to come to a conclusion. I re think my type all the time too and I'm not fully confident on IEI either.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pookie View Post
    Sequential memory and value judgements. IEI is top tier at making subjective evaluations on actions and juxtaposing them with ideals.

    If theres any social mission IEI is particularly equipped to handle, its adapting themselves into a good person adhering to their ideals. However, thats only true if theyre strong enough to honestly confront themselves about the negatives they bring into the world with their actions. Most people(IEIs included) are not.

    TL;DR - Embodying the character of someone who makes the world a better place, for others to learn from.
    great stuff. I call this mission the cross that IEI carry.

    Ghandi, IEI, said:

    happiness is when what you think, what you say, and what you do are in harmony.

    It sounds like Fi value statement on the surface with ever increasing ideals with convictions, but it’s really more about Ni Fe, because it doesn’t say anything about the content of those harmonies, like pity, understanding, compassion, empathy, moral certitude which would make it more about Fi convictions, only the act of doing it is crucial. Although all types can feel those convictions. The point here is harmony of that inside world and as IEI age they see that mission as important in conjunction with their outside world situation if they are inclined to do so. Screwing up, or drifting gets you no where.

    I think beta NFS suffer particularly strongly with this knowledge of themselves in totality stretching from childhood onwards and trying to merge that with reality. See sequential memory.

    I think this is why efforts at self betterment are both celebrated and ignored by beta STs. Celebrated because they are not over concerned or focused on the people around them level of worldly successes in The material realm: the ST can handle that themselves. So weaknesses here from IEI are taken as triumphs when small worldly tasks or big ones get accomplished. What STs really need is a side kick that makes them happy. Its not complicated. Which leads into why betterment is ignored, because SLEs take up a big block of attention and energy and having your own projects with your own life that takes away time and energy away from them would be against this basic program. This is even accented in greater degree in SLE female and IEI male relationships.
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