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    It was hard for me as it’s not in English, but my initial impression wasn’t IEE for user123. I’m not saying it doesn’t mean that she’s not, but I think it’s also due to not seeing 4D Fe to be honest. She seemed fairly serious throughout. Just my two cents. I feel like even if IEE is being serious much of the time, at some point you will see smiling, funny expressions and that sort of thing often times I didn’t really observe that, but it’s just a couple brief interviews and isn’t really telling to her whole character off screen

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    I watched it once with semi-listening and that one part with 'I would love to find someone, just two of us, us against the world thing' (stated) didn't sound very... Familiar to me. User123 may try to translate her video herself or with her permission I could translate it

    After watching it for a while I'm not sure whether she is familiar to my IEE friend, but I would like to grant the benefit of doubt here.

    (yeah, I know it's down now)

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    'I would love to find someone, just two of us, us against the world thing", it sounds quite rebellious
    but I meant that I like small groups of friends, max. 3 people with common interests
    I don't feel comfortable in large groups of people

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    Quote Originally Posted by thegreenfaerie View Post
    It was hard for me as it’s not in English, but my initial impression wasn’t IEE for user123. I’m not saying it doesn’t mean that she’s not, but I think it’s also due to not seeing 4D Fe to be honest. She seemed fairly serious throughout. Just my two cents. I feel like even if IEE is being serious much of the time, at some point you will see smiling, funny expressions and that sort of thing often times I didn’t really observe that, but it’s just a couple brief interviews and isn’t really telling to her whole character off screen
    My first impression of her was that of a Delta introvert, then IEE, but certainly not LSE. Then we exchanged some PM's on other subjects (that was over a year ago), and based on her interests and attitudes towards the subjects discussed, I have no doubts that she actually is IEE. Some IEEs are more serious than others, not all of us are hyperactive bees with ADHD (if there even exists such a thing).

    FWIW, I had to make presentation videos of myself in the past. When I started doing this and viewing the videos, I was baffled by the lack of emotional expressiveness in these videos. It is there if you know what to look for (and it is certainly there in the last video user123 posted, but it is understated). I quickly realized what the problem was: lack of an interlocutor. So then I started making videos by putting my GF behind the camera, and talking to her while recording the videos. Problem solved, the videos became a lot more animated. I also started to apply this approach when taping other people, the focus should be away from the camera.

    ETA: on the difference between Fe in Lead-Fe and Demonstrative-Fe types: ESEs and EIEs are Fe, IEEs and SEEs do Fe. ExEs have no choice in the matter when it comes to Fe, xEEs do.
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    Typing someone as Ne lead based in why s/he is not Fe Lead is strange.

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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    FWIW, I had to make presentation videos of myself in the past. When I started doing this and viewing the videos, I was baffled by the lack of emotional expressiveness in these videos. It is there if you know what to look for (and it is certainly there in the last video user123 posted, but it is understated). I quickly realized what the problem was: lack of an interlocutor. So then I started making videos by putting my GF behind the camera, and talking to her while recording the videos. Problem solved, the videos became a lot more animated. I also started to apply this approach when taping other people, the focus should be away from the camera.
    Off topic, but I feel I may have the same problem, which caused quite a few of people thinking I may be Fe PoLR last time I posted a video. Thanks for unintended advice (I was thinking this may solve it, but now I'm quite sure it may).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    Typing someone as Ne lead based in why s/he is not Fe Lead is strange.
    Who ever said that?
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Who ever said that?
    why don't you re-read the thread?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    why don't you re-read the thread?
    Why don't you take a seat on my ignore list?
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    Quote Originally Posted by consentingadult View Post
    Why don't you take a seat on my ignore list?

    Sounds good for me. Why should I supposedly care? If we had ever share a comment or two in all my time in this forum is too much. I wasn't even speaking to you at first (you did) and then you talked again and then you are all jumpy. Why don't you just relax a bit?

    If you don't, you will keep agreeing with Maritsa typings



    Edit. I like Maritsa btw, but its hilarious that you mock her when your typing skills are not better than hers.
    Last edited by Tommy; 05-26-2020 at 12:07 AM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Don't try to use that laughable demo Ti and Wiki copypasta to counter actual experience of people. This is about VI and not some silly Reinin dichotomies that don't have anything to do with this. I wouldn't expect a Fe PoLR to understand what it's about anyway.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tommy View Post
    You have no experience with this forum user to say what she is or not without a doubt. You speak and type based in nonsense not experience. Reinin speaks about experiences and I also have close experience with IEE and ESE. Your experience with such types is not more valuable than mine. Also Reinin proves my point. And if you self type LSI you are also 1DFe, and my Ti is also 4D (but yours obviously not?) so you are shooting another dumb attack instead of actually provide some real argument to support any of your claims. As you often do.

    I don't even know what you guys are arguing about. VI and Reinins are one the the same. Meaning that both VI and dichotomies will match once you've typed someone as their actual type. They don't exist at an exclusion of each other, but instead they reinforce each other in typing methodology. And likewise, if your VI and reinin conclusions don't match, or your have to shit on one to exclusion of another, claim that VI is shallow b/s or reinins are theoretical wanking, it's a red flag warning that there's something off about your typing approach. These are simply different ways to finding the same type.

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    Augustinavichiute's assumptions about Reinin's traits is better to ignore as those are baseless

    other authors besides Jung and Augustinavichiute can be ignored as it's not Socionics and their hypotheses are baseless in general too. you'll just be misleaded by random nonsense ideas
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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