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    EII cannot with a single angry and judgmental glance give LIE the necessary volitional "push" to mobilize him for work and help.

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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    To be fair, it's normally the ENTj mobilizing others to work and help. Not really a type inclined to do a lot of work just to be helpful.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smilex View Post
    To be fair, it's normally the ENTj mobilizing others to work and help. Not really a type inclined to do a lot of work just to be helpful.
    I was more referring to the way a "push" can be given by a single look/glance; or a direct statement. Something really penetrative. Thinking of my SEE father. ENTj are friendly and maybe angry so I guess they could use a variety of manipulations to get others to help.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Oh, those glances. Right.

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    impossible is nothing~

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    Since the title is general I was expecting a general and complete description of Se (hoping for something original). The example is funny and could be useful for new socionists, but I think the title is too misleading. I would change it to something like "A practical example of the difference between EII and ESI", or "Why EII isn't optimal for LIE".

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    EII cannot with a single angry and judgmental glance give LIE the necessary volitional "push" to mobilize him for work and help.
    anyone can. someones better. LIE are better stimulated through Fi where EII are good
    "judgmental glance" - Fi

    while Se is not about to be angry. "angry" is about feelings, more to Fe as this is a state, but not a relation to someone. hate and aversion to someone would be more of Fi
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    I'm famous for looking at people and making them feel like shit... and I never realize when I do that..

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    In part, Se (for me, at least) is being able to size people up well enough to know how to "push" or utilize their "power"/will in the most optimal way, in order to meet some end. It manifests as an immediate sensation/sensory awareness/visceral "knowing" of someone else's energy/aura potency, as it relates to my own and the immediate environment. I'd imagine that a stronger Se user would be more competent at accurately assessing the various "energy fields" folks give off and using that (or not) to fit whatever aim they have.

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Don’t type based on stereotypes about type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Socionics Is Not A Cult View Post
    Don’t type based on stereotypes about type
    don't type based of random bs about types. do this by common behavior - stereotypes
    then you'll lesser mistype and will need lesser of random bs to rationalize the bs you get
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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