Reinin dichotomies. Do they even work?

[Magellan]

What's your opinion? Do they work for you? In my case I don't fit in the 11 dichotomies of any type. Reinin wise I mostly relate to SEI:

SEI 8
SLE 8
LII 7
IEE 7
LSI 6
LIE 6
EIE 5
IEI 5
ILE 5
ESI 5
EII 5
SLI 5
LSE 4
ESE 4
SEE 3
ILI 2

For example I don't fit into SEI because I relate to static, aristocratic and result. But with other types it gets even worse.

The dichotomies in which I fit totally are: yielding, strategist, emotivist, carefree, judicious, result and declaring. The other ones are somehow in the middle.

[Smilex]

The descriptions most widely circulated are pretty bad for what they are.
They work perfectly.
But they work related to the ego functions in use. So if you consider what you would prefer or aspire to instead of how you are, or consider based on memory instead of the functions you are using at the time, you will end up seeing matters in the wrong light.

[roger557]

Some work better than others, and some are not understood/described properly

[Tallmo]

Have you used the Reinin calculator? It is pretty neat to play with, invented by member Yaroslaav.

[Beautiful sky]

Do they work for me?

Some are not very clear to me
Some stand out but I’m an N type. Something will jump out at me in a prominent way and every sensory type will find a contribution to what I’m feeling

[ooo]

Skip the first three, those are the same as MBTI traits. Now pick up to 3 or 4 from any of the other pairs. Pick what you are most confident in choosing. You can skip over any that you aren't sure

http://www.zhilkin.com/socio/en/

I'm SLE

[Varlawend]

Quite a lot of interesting work has been done of the Reinin dichotomies, but some remain mysterious.

Victor Gulenko, for example, has done a lot of work on the semantics of Extroversion/Introversion, Rational/Irrational, Static/Dynamic, Sensing/Intuitive, Logical/Ethical, Process/Result, Central/Peripheral, Positivist/Negativist. He's done some work on Aristocratic/Democratic, Asking/Declaring and Ascending/Descending, but they can still be pretty confusing and mysterious and I wouldn't recommend pinning too much on your identification with them. Certainly the others can be confusing sometimes, such as Process/Result, but usually a large portion of them are clear. You can read about it here as long as you have access to a free online translator: https://socioniks.net/basicknowledge/

Another interesting source on the Lesser Signs of Reinin (Constructivist/Emotivist, Tactical/Strategic, Farsighted/Carefree, Obstinate/Yielding) is Victor Talanov, and his Model T. He has attempted to analyze them with empirical, statistical methods, though I don't have a deep understanding of the methodology just yet. You can read about it here: http://translate.google.com/translat...i_i_model.html

And on this site: https://junglove.net/the-yieldingobstinate-dichotomy/

https://junglove.net/carefree-vs-farsighted/

Talanov's research and approach are fascinating and unique to my knowledge, but I'm not so sure of his typing methods and thus I do consider his conclusions about these dichotomies to be quite suspect. However, it is still good food for thought as long as you take it with a grain of salt. A total calculus of Reinin dichotomies is a rather suspect methodology for typing to begin with, since we don't really know the relative influence of each one inasmuch as they relate to typical behavior (some dichotomies might just have much more influence on behavior than others), conscious awareness (mostly conscious or mostly subtle and unconscious), and scale of impact (more personal level effects vs. more group level effects, etc.).

[Exodus]

The main ones worth using are introversion/extroversion, the strength dichotomies, and the quadra value dichotomies (FeTi vs. FiTe, NeSi vs. NiSe).

These are enough to deduce the type, and most of the other ones are tenuous as described at best. If you're trying to apply the theory, study what works in depth and leave the other stuff.

[Beautiful sky]

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I took snapshots of segments that I definitely relate to one has a contribution

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