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    As I said in my introduction, I'm wondering what you will type me as. I skipped some questions in the questionaire because they were pointless for me or I couldnt be bothered. Feel free to ask me anything or go deeper on the questions so you might actually get something meaningfull out of it.

    What do you study or do for a living? How did you come to do that? What do you like or dislike about it?

    Currently studying ui/ux design. Did a gamedesign study but that was a waste of time. Worked for a while on a desk job but I went crazy from boredom and iritation work hard not smart mentality. This while the job was completely pointless with shit pay and long travel time, so I started my new study where I could be creative.


    What are your values, and why?
    Kindness, loyalty, trustworthyness, wisdom. I think its always good to know things so you dont fuck shit up, while its always good to be there for others.


    What else do you do on a daily basis? What are your interests and hobbies? Why do you do them?
    Sit at my pc. Browse the internet for interesting stuff. Play games and play vr stuff on my rift, vrporn isnt that interesting btw. Watch series(Chinese stuff lately since its so different), read fantasy books sometimes and some manhwa.


    Describe your relations with family and friends. What do you like and dislike about them?
    Don't talk much with them because I generally avoid talking to people if I think it's a waste of time. My parents and I get along alright, they constantly tell me to do shit and be ethousiastic which annoys me though. My few friends are more diplomatic about that which I like about them. They drag me along to do new stuff which is also nice.


    What do you look for in friends? In romantic relationships?
    People that I feel like I have a connection with while being entertaining for me. I like it when a girl is forcefull and confident yet kind.


    What conflicts have you encountered recently with other people? Why did they happen? Which kinds seem to happen on a regular basis?
    I rarely have conflicts tbh. The last 1 I had I asked my parents how much pork they had left and that I didn't really like it that much. Apparently I said it with an angry face and I was too blunt resulting in them being angry which resulted in me being angry and just walking off to do my own thing. Conflict is usually like that.


    How would your friends describe you?
    Stuff I've heard from multiple people in the last months: way too quiet, too much with his head somewhere else, nonchalant, uncaring, blunt, dry, loyal, actually nice. Monotone voice. The friend who does whatever he wants and doesn't get screwed by life(I disagree, I wouldn't be single and have my own place if I did D. The friend with the near permanent resting bitch face unless he is for some reason happy. Actually super weird friend.
    Guy they go to if they don't understand something, have a stupid idea or if they want a slave to play VR games at.


    What do people generally see as your strengths? What do you like about yourself?
    Always have an opinion, stops them from making mistakes, good at predicting and planning. I don't know what I like about myself...


    What are your weaknesses? What criticism do you often face from others? What do you dislike about yourself?
    Too inactive, blunt(even by Dutch standards), unenthousiastic. "can you be more happy"<no. I dislike that I can sit on my ass all day doing nothing but sit in lala land.


    In what areas of life can you manage well on your own? In what areas of your life would you like help?
    See above.


    What things do you dislike doing? What things do you enjoy more than others?
    I dislike big parties, especially with people I don't know. Repetitve tasks that require me to pay attention. I enjoy doing absolutely nothing, preventing people from doing stupid shit or intentionally let them do it for a good laugh.


    What goals, aspirations, or plans do you have for the future? How did you come to have them?
    Finish my uni, get a job, don't die yet. yeah I dunno


    If you had enough money to live comfortably for the rest of your life without working, what would you do with your time?
    Invest the money and probably do not do too much different from what I do now.


    What traits do you find endearing that others might dislike? What traits are considered positive/neutral by others but tend to annoy you?
    I like it when people do what they like while helping others. I dislike hardworking people who don't have an idea about what they are actually doing, especially if they tell you to work hard as well or you're a piece of shit. It's pointless.


    What kinds of things do you do to manage and/or beautify your environment (your room, your house, etc.)? What do you think of daily chores?
    Do the dishes every day, keep the front of my desk+ the floor clean so theres no dirty shit stopping me from doing what I need to do. It's nice to not trip and die while in VR. Other than that it's a mess and I don't do much other than waiting for the cleaning lady who comes once a week.


    How do you behave around strangers?
    In typical Dutch fashion I completely ignore them untill they talk to me, I'll tell them whatever they need to know but I'm not going to help them. Won't stick around longer than needed. If I actually have to do something with the strangers I have little confidence in how to get good contact with them.


    How do you react to conflict? What do you do if somebody insults or attacks you?
    Frown, frown some more and just do my own thing. If its repeated I might snap and start shouting and telling them how dumb/shit they are and why that's the case, this also happens if someone does this to one of my closer friends.


    What is one common misconception that people have about things? Explain why it is wrong.
    That they know everything.


    What did you do last Friday?
    Slept, showered, ate lots of food, ate a kapsalon. Had a presentation of my project to end my quarter at uni. Started writing an essay about the project, mostly did the setup so I could take a break and chill to play some Beatsaber(vrgame) and watch the new Star Trek episode. Thats about it.


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    What is your biggest accomplishment?
    I didn't die when I was born way too early


    What are your religious or spiritual beliefs and why do you hold them?
    Atheist. Religion is a good base to treat people well but other than that I have some strong believes against religion but there is no point in preeching that.


    What are your political beliefs, and why? To what extent do you care about politics?
    I'm not tied to any party and I don't really care/think there is a point to care as long as someone isn't going to fuck over the entire country. I have some interest in US politics but thats mostly because I think everything there is cultist mud slinging from 2 sides with a ton of corruption.


    What is or was your favorite school subject and why?
    History, interested in what people did in the past and how it became what we have now. I was good at math and art but I disliked them.


    Where did you go on your most recent vacation? What did you do there? How did you like it and why?
    Last 1 I went snowboarding but I was sick so Ill take my US vacation. Went around callifornia-Vegas-grand canyon. Was alright, other than the mexican fodo I disliked the food though, so little taste and the fruit tasted like chemicals. D:


    What were you like as a kid? How have you changed since you were a child?
    pretty much the same as now, quiet, blunt, a bit weird, not paying atention to others that much. I was more creative but I wasn't nearly as cynical as I am now though.


    What was your high school experience like?
    Always got excluded and blamed for shit done by other kids, didnt perform well because of it.


    How do you see other people as a whole? What do you consider a prevalent social problem? Name one.
    The emotional idiocy with politics


    What do you do if you're not getting what you want? What approach do you use?
    Get something else


    Are you comfortable taking leadership roles? In what areas? Why or why not?
    I generally don't have the energy for it, if I get a leadership role I will go anal on details/planning unless I can give tasks to others. I rather not have a leadership role.


    How often do you get angry? What kinds of things make you angry?
    Rarely, mostly happens if people constantly push me down or want me to behave and act like others all the time.


    What is the purpose of life? What do you find personally meaningful in life?
    There is no purpose/meaning. Leave this place better than how you came here, gl with that though with all the polution and other shit


    How do you dress or manage your appearance?
    I put in as little effort as possible to look acceptable, which seems to be good enough.


    Do you like surprises?
    Not much is a surprise. If really a surprise, no

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    sorry to all peeps who are not getting an asnwer lately, it seems like the forum went a bit wild Maritsa (B.S.) mode.

    just give us some time... newbies <3

    Etar I think you're a SiTe, SLI, ISTp... Fe seems a weak spot..

    also welcome : )

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    Yeah I noticed so wasn't expecting much soon x) Thanks though!

    How did you get to SLI, what were the reasons for it?
    I personally noticed that my Fe was kinda bad and looked into SLI as well but I generally feel like my Si is kinda bad.
    Generally I don'tt notice what is going on around me or how my body is doing untill its pretty bad already. Im also not someone who will do physical work unless I really have to.

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    oki, you're right... xLI would be more safe, but many little things made me think of SLI so I attempted that (design, cold-looking bitch face, the importance of kindness, you mentioning foods a couple of times.. lol. the realization there's no "truth" - valued Ne?-)

    but you're right, there's tons of Ni as well.. history, your organizative scheduled way to plan things, predcit the future, see ahead.. yeah that could Ni as base function perhaps. But even Te deals with that sort of organizative modes... so, you decide.

    I don't think Si is about physical force anyway, or to be pro-active, infact it is about comfort... by the way this a shallow input, take it with a pinch of salt.

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    Any input is welcome

    Hmm fair enough reasoning though, it is something I got stuck on myself as well.
    And in my opinion there is a truth but we just don't see and understand it fully.

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    hmm... yeah @Etar what you said about your bodily sensations is hinting at ILI. do you think you rather need to take care of things, or would you prefer someone to push you to do things?

    also, what would annoy you the most? someone constantly taking care of you, or someone who's relying constantly on your objectiveness?

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    I don’t have enough information to type you.

    Why do you say you have bad Si? Or, what is your understanding of Si

    You seem Te bade because of your preference to planning in detail on activities that are important

    You conserve a lot of energy and seem unmotivated that is actually Si
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    If I make one it will be tomorrow or sometime next week

    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    hmm... yeah @Etar what you said about your bodily sensations is hinting at ILI. do you think you rather need to take care of things, or would you prefer someone to push you to do things?

    also, what would annoy you the most? someone constantly taking care of you, or someone who's relying constantly on your objectiveness?
    I rather have someone push me to do things, although better to just drag me along. I will tell others what to do if I ever feel the need to take care of things because something would go wrong.
    To be honest I have no idea what would annoy me more. People tend to think they need to take care of me and protect me pretty often. I once got told that I would fit with a girl doing everything for me but not too sure how I would feel about that. I wouldn't mind if someone relied on my objectiveness, I would feel appreciated.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I don’t have enough information to type you.

    Why do you say you have bad Si? Or, what is your understanding of Si

    You seem Te bade because of your preference to planning in detail on activities that are important

    You conserve a lot of energy and seem unmotivated that is actually Si
    Well not exactly bad Si but I do not think I favor it that much although I still see it as a posibility.
    As for the low energy, Ni is also low energy though and unmotivated for different reasons. (although I didnt dig too much into that myself)
    My idea of Si is that you are in tune with your body and your sensations and can also see this in others. Si is also fairly aware of it's surroundings. Not agressive but preserving unlike Se. Making yourself and others feel comfortable and going with that.

    I'm fairly good at sports yet I see no meaning in it outside of the competitive part so I just pass on it. I tend to forget to eat/drink for hours on end untill I notice I feel like crap. I generally forget to help others or see if they need help, food or drink outside of what I remember to do because I forgot to do it or because I just guess. I get told I'm a pretty bad host. The few times a year I have people over I just prepare what I expect to be needed which I then just prepare when they mention they are hungry or whatever. I'm pretty oblivious to things someone left on the floor, which then makes me trip fairly often. (or I trip on the stairs because I'm retarded) But all this could still be issues because of introversion or something else.

    Is there anything you want to know to help you type me?

    Edit: Si generally isnt all that dreamy from what I read as well, which is something I am most of the time

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    If I make one it will be tomorrow or sometime next week



    I rather have someone push me to do things, although better to just drag me along. I will tell others what to do if I ever feel the need to take care of things because something would go wrong.
    To be honest I have no idea what would annoy me more. People tend to think they need to take care of me and protect me pretty often. I once got told that I would fit with a girl doing everything for me but not too sure how I would feel about that. I wouldn't mind if someone relied on my objectiveness, I would feel appreciated.



    Well not exactly bad Si but I do not think I favor it that much although I still see it as a posibility.
    As for the low energy, Ni is also low energy though and unmotivated for different reasons. (although I didnt dig too much into that myself)
    My idea of Si is that you are in tune with your body and your sensations and can also see this in others. Si is also fairly aware of it's surroundings. Not agressive but preserving unlike Se. Making yourself and others feel comfortable and going with that.

    I'm fairly good at sports yet I see no meaning in it outside of the competitive part so I just pass on it. I tend to forget to eat/drink for hours on end untill I notice I feel like crap. I generally forget to help others or see if they need help, food or drink outside of what I remember to do because I forgot to do it or because I just guess. I get told I'm a pretty bad host. The few times a year I have people over I just prepare what I expect to be needed which I then just prepare when they mention they are hungry or whatever. I'm pretty oblivious to things someone left on the floor, which then makes me trip fairly often. (or I trip on the stairs because I'm retarded) But all this could still be issues because of introversion or something else.

    Is there anything you want to know to help you type me?
    No my dear you are distracted that is why you don’t eat for hours. My husband comes home after a long day of work and tells me “haven’t had anything to eat since am. I shake my head and always put a sports bar in his car, pocket, etc and prepare a dinner
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Si tend to be more practical than imaginative like you describe... but there's time to get fixed on a type, read about the irrational elements, Te and Fi are pretty clear I'd say.. (but who knows), so try to get your head around what sort of irrational elements you seem to lean towards more... although I think you can have your mind around it already ; )

    I'd go with ILI-Te so far..

    (from the few things you've described to like in terms of other people's attitudes, I'd confirm the Ni)

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    That you noticed that you feel like crap is where your Si is.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Things I took from it, you are a negativist, it was exhausting just to read. You detest emotionality and have a natural talent for pissing off even those close to you. PoLr Fe.

    I see Te in statements like:

    "Currently studying ui/ux design. Did a gamedesign study but that was a waste of time. Worked for a while on a desk job but I went crazy from boredom and iritation work hard not smart mentality. This while the job was completely pointless with shit pay and long travel time, so I started my new study where I could be creative."

    Shit pay, long travel time, job is pointless

    How is this Te when it sounds like anyone complaining about their job?
    Because there was no mention of how you aren't feeling fulfilled, co-workers don't like me, etc. Are you paid more at your new job? Is it closer? How does a job foster creativity for you?
    Regardless you'd be Te with that Polr Fe anyway.

    You have a lack of detail about your future, yet you have a good sense of time. The thing about food in America seemed Si. The thing about wanting a girl who is forceful seems like a victim temperament rather than caretaker. So there's a tension between ILI and SLI. You seem more Si than Ni to me though but you'll have to make that decision, Research the two and really think about it.

    -Ip temperament
    -Fe PoLr

    Conclusion:
    ILI or SLI

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    I have your type

    I want you to look at this sentence and tell me what function you see or not see

    “I’m not sure how I would feel about that”
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOutThere View Post
    Things I took from it, you are a negativist, it was exhausting just to read. You detest emotionality and have a natural talent for pissing off even those close to you. PoLr Fe.

    I see Te in statements like:

    "Currently studying ui/ux design. Did a gamedesign study but that was a waste of time. Worked for a while on a desk job but I went crazy from boredom and iritation work hard not smart mentality. This while the job was completely pointless with shit pay and long travel time, so I started my new study where I could be creative."

    Shit pay, long travel time, job is pointless

    How is this Te when it sounds like anyone complaining about their job?
    Because there was no mention of how you aren't feeling fulfilled, co-workers don't like me, etc. Are you paid more at your new job? Is it closer? How does a job foster creativity for you?
    Regardless you'd be Te with that Polr Fe anyway.

    You have a lack of detail about your future, yet you have a good sense of time. The thing about food in America seemed Si. The thing about wanting a girl who is forceful seems like a victim temperament rather than caretaker. So there's a tension between ILI and SLI. You seem more Si than Ni to me though but you'll have to make that decision, Research the two and really think about it.

    -Ip temperament
    -Fe PoLr

    Conclusion:
    ILI or SLI
    Ni Polr

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    What’s with the influx of all these LSE lately? Lol
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    You have no long rage vision, you look for something practical and reliable, you need motivation to act, you are not aware of your immediate environment-in your head, you don’t manage organization in real time and space, you are not aware of your own feelings.

    LSE final type
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Thanks for the input ooo and ImOutThere, I already have an opinion but better keep getting more information.

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    You have no long rage vision, you look for something practical and reliable, you need motivation to act, you are not aware of your immediate environment-in your head, you don’t manage organization in real time and space, you are not aware of your own feelings.

    LSE final type
    Thanks but no way I'm LSE though
    I often get told "you are the most introverted person I know"
    I tend to think of how I can get something out of a situation myself and how it will play out for me.
    At worst my Ni isnt that bad.
    Specific events for the above points(I know you can do everything)
    -I saw how I will lose a friend to her now boyfriend 3 months before it happening. I also felt betrayed as if it already happened. This due to knowing her personality and how they interacted
    -Saw a massive storm coming while in the US and told my family to go back since our camper would be screwed (I visually saw the wind throwing the sunshield thing up and down and rain entering the windows), Ended up being right there and everything was soaked, half a tree fell on top as well, breaking a window D:
    My lala land consists mostly of things that I predict will happen soon upto what I think will happen in the next few months and a lot of fantasy.

    As for my Ni, Ill post some here now with some comments.(Filatova descriptions) Darkred = not me at all, Red = not me, Orange = meh, Green = yes is me.
    I might do some Si later.

    LSE
    Ni – Vulnerable function. LSE painfully experiences any type of uncertainty. It is desirable that everything be planned befohand, to precisely know what will happen tomorrow, in the week, in the month, in the year. Uncertainty, for her, is the most severe vital problem, it makes her nervous and she attempts to surmount it with all her resources.

    LSE is not inclined to give herself up to dreams and fantasies, she finds it difficult to create an internal world that is not connected with reality – her attention is always concentrated on the exterior of things. [Not at all] Therefore she often doesn’t realize the deeper essence of a person or event, but makes judgments based on what she sees (i.e. in regards to whether the man is respectable) and finds her point of view to be sufficiently reasoned.[I have to see things first which I don't really do and even then I go based off my assumptions]

    Her consciousness assumes no mysticism, nothing beyond that which may be seen, touched and checked. Because of the weakness of her introverted intuition she will never compose an intuitive forecast of events, but will prefer to act by means of her strong logical function: thus she will count on things but not foresee them.[we dont know everythign yet as I mentioned before but we do assume a lot, including me]

    Particularly, due to the weakness of intuition, LSE cannot always catch on to the trends of development, prospects for one or another form of production, the possibility of demand for one or another commodity. It is therefore not surprising that she neither hurries to use innovation in the house nor at work nor in administrative activity. May even wear the same suit for years (though nevertheless will wear it properly and aesthetically).[I do not care unless someone I care baout tells me I look like shit or good in some certain clothes/style] In general, in regards to clothing, she is more so guided by worthwhileness (formal fashion), does not so much love “avant garde” styles.[Don't like to stand out]

    Extroverted intuition is also not among the strong qualities of the LSE: for example, she finds it difficult to correctly evaluate and to sense the nature of other people, their true motives, which push them toward one activity over another.
    SLI
    Ni Role function. Flights of fantasy and blurry boundlessness – such things are not characteristic of SLI. He cannot sufficiently evaluate the long-term prospects of one task over another or accurately predict someone's actions, and thus finds it difficult to solve strategic problems. Sometimes he makes mistakes in judging people and is inclined to view them in a more positive, advantageous light, and then later feels deceived by his expectations. In his designs and assessments of future prospects, he has to depend on his ability to make realistic estimates rather than intuition. For additional certainty, he discusses his plans with his colleagues, to confirm that they correspond to the established regulations and norms, which others deem sensible.
    My confirmation is more like me telling them this is the right way, even though it can be very different that what the usual plan was. As I said before, fantasy is second nature for me.

    ILI
    Ni Program function. The consciousness of any introvert is always working with internally constructed imaginary models. The external world for him only serves as a starting stage for developing internal imagery. Since the leading function of ILI is intuition of time, it allows him to successfully model evolution of processes in time.

    The consciousness of ILI easily encompasses any periods in time and perceives the world comprehensively and systematically, and all the processes occurring within it dynamically. His ability to freely traverse the time axis allows him to see distant prospects,[I see prospects but I do not make my own goal since I do not care] and consequently few can match him in the realm of strategic forecasts.

    ILI's imagination perceives the world in dynamic flow – within it everything is in motion, everything interacts, people work, take some actions, which are based on some motivations. In consciousness of ILI, a model of people's behavior arises, examining which he can predict the future consequence of actions that a person undertakes in the present. Possessing the gift of foresight, he often already knows what a person is going to say or do in a certain situation frequently, it seems to him that he knows and sees straight through everything (and in a certain sense, this is true).

    The ability to see the essence of a problem and to envision the eventual result seems insightful, such that ILI may earn the reputation of a wise and far-sighted person[This is why people t end to apreciate me] or a philosopher. As a rule, his prognoses are colored by skepticismhe prefers to voice warnings to admonish those around him from taking unnecessary steps and acting rashly. He himself is cautiouswill repeatedly and scrupulously check everything before doing anything. He calls on others to do the same, making critical remarks of those whose statements and actions are made too hastily and lightly and have not been carefully thought through.

    One of the main driving forces of ILI is a sense of his own worth, and by association – self-assertion. Frequently he feels good from observing that others are incompetent at something, which comes easily and naturally to him.[People tend to avoid letting me do something I'm good at when they are not because of this I guess, they refuse to compliment me as well ] Many of his mental abilities are indeed high. People of this type often have an immaculate memory. Using this advantage, he identifies the source of a question and comprehends all the aspects of the problem, building a massive foundation for his erudition. It is precisely among this sociotype that one can meet individuals who possess an almost encyclopedic knowledge.[Only if I'm interested the subject then I indeed get called this] However, a measure of conservatism is also characteristic of them . This is expressed in their distrust of anything new, untested and unproven, when it is not clear where it will lead.
    [people seem to have this idea of me but I dont agree too much]

    His inclination to assert himself, to feel himself significant, does no mean that he will attempt to achieve a high position or status in society. Rather his tendency is to elevate himself as high as possible in certain fields of knowledge, and to go as deep as possible in his perceptiveness, to feel his superiority to others in exactly this (Ni).
    IEI
    Ni – Program function. Introversion of IEI's intuition dictates that his consciousness is submerged in modeling of processes of time. His thoughts sail, flow, easily going forward and backwards in time. In contrast to ILI, the IEI is focused on ethics, and therefore he is less concerned with the problems of the material world and production; his interests lie in the development of people's emotions, relations, and potential.

    He internally observes everything as in constant motion: children – run, adults – work, some actions are undertaken, rivers – flow, heavenly bodies – move in the sky… for the IEI, time constitutes a kind of aether into which everything is submerged. A dreamer and romantic, the IEI is easily separated from reality and taken by his thoughts into the land of images and insights, from which he derives enjoyment and meaning of his existence. He's drawn to literature containing elements of the fantastical and breathtaking adventures. He imagines himself participating together with heroes of the novels, giving himself up to periods of creative imaginings.[stuck in lala land] His mind, as a rule, focuses on something that is sublime and elegant – he may think of a journey around the world aboard an ocean liner (alongside a refined public), of an alluring cottage with a fireplace and white piano, of beautiful transcendent love…

    However, the IEI is also able to sense the imminence of events, to catch the barely noticeable currents of attitudes and dynamics within society. He can feel the precise moment in time when action must be taken; mostly vividly he feels the imminence of crisis situations and danger, at which time he becomes very agitated and disturbed.

    He is adept at noticing people's characteristics, idiosyncrasies, abilities and potential, and is drawn towards capable individuals (sometimes for his own purposes). With respect to his own abilities and talents there is an internal, frequently secret, conviction that he exceeds others in his spiritual aristocratism, viewing himself as a member of an elite of humanity, but usually he does not openly demonstrate this perception. [no comment]

    Introverted intuition in the leading bloc impedes him seeing himself from the outside. He finds it difficult to objectively evaluate his behavior[I need others to tell me], and is inclined to justify himself in everything. His inclination to distance himself from reality and difficulties in self-appraisal can lead to egocentrism and excessive submersion in his own world.
    ^I can't properly judge myself as mentioned in there as well so it's kinda a waste
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    ILI does make sense. Is that what you decided?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    Thanks for the input ooo and ImOutThere, I already have an opinion but better keep getting more information.



    Thanks but no way I'm LSE though
    I often get told "you are the most introverted person I know"
    I tend to think of how I can get something out of a situation myself and how it will play out for me.
    At worst my Ni isnt that bad.
    Specific events for the above points(I know you can do everything)
    -I saw how I will lose a friend to her now boyfriend 3 months before it happening. I also felt betrayed as if it already happened. This due to knowing her personality and how they interacted
    -Saw a massive storm coming while in the US and told my family to go back since our camper would be screwed (I visually saw the wind throwing the sunshield thing up and down and rain entering the windows), Ended up being right there and everything was soaked, half a tree fell on top as well, breaking a window D:
    My lala land consists mostly of things that I predict will happen soon upto what I think will happen in the next few months and a lot of fantasy.

    As for my Ni, Ill post some here now with some comments.(Filatova descriptions) Darkred = not me at all, Red = not me, Orange = meh, Green = yes is me.
    I might do some Si later.

    LSE


    SLI

    My confirmation is more like me telling them this is the right way, even though it can be very different that what the usual plan was. As I said before, fantasy is second nature for me.

    ILI


    IEI


    ^I can't properly judge myself as mentioned in there as well so it's kinda a waste
    Okay I’d be interested in watching you on video.
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Hmm very interesting
    Are you an enneagram 9 by any chance?

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    IEI-Ni 9w1 would be my guess, are you an sx dominant? Maybe sp/sx or sx/sp

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    https://www.upwork.com/blog/2014/02/...ine-education/

    If you struggle with inactiveness, maybe this can help in your free time especially for the long term. It may take a while to get past the neural discomfort but once you get past that enjoy . Learning can be awesome.
    Btw, there are a ton of awesome things about you, I understand you have a self depreciating humour but having a wonderful sense of humour is great, try flipping it into a self appreciation humour haha, kinda similar to Seth Rollins heel run in WWE. Self love is key though and you are much more than what you describe yourself as.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ImOutThere View Post
    ILI does make sense. Is that what you decided?
    For now yes, still open for SLI, IEI and potential LII though (or anything else)

    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Okay I’d be interested in watching you on video.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I have a 3 minute one fow now :x kids started to make noise behind my house, made me feel super awkward...
    This any use for you 2 for now?

    Quote Originally Posted by LeaderLightChange View Post
    IEI-Ni 9w1 would be my guess, are you an sx dominant? Maybe sp/sx or sx/sp
    Quote Originally Posted by LeaderLightChange View Post
    https://www.upwork.com/blog/2014/02/...ine-education/

    If you struggle with inactiveness, maybe this can help in your free time especially for the long term. It may take a while to get past the neural discomfort but once you get past that enjoy . Learning can be awesome.
    Btw, there are a ton of awesome things about you, I understand you have a self depreciating humour but having a wonderful sense of humour is great, try flipping it into a self appreciation humour haha, kinda similar to Seth Rollins heel run in WWE. Self love is key though and you are much more than what you describe yourself as.
    This actually used to be my very first typing when I just went over some Socionics and Enneagram tests and simple theory 2 years ago, don't know much about enneagram to confirm though.
    And you're the first to notice I wasnt too serious with my answers. I agree I should probably change my humour like that yeah, although I would get ego hate then...
    I'll check out the link
    What made you think of IEI-Ni though

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    You def seem like an introvert, but being SO last could contribute to that.

    Btw, I also worked on a small VR project recently, so it's cool to see you're into VR too! What exactly do you do in your studies, what's your expertise? Personally I find Narration Design the most interesting. What bored you about Game Design?
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    VR has many nice uses, not even specifically games, and it's fun ofcourse :>

    I mostly do the interface design of apps/website/applications. With that comes some research or using others their research, concepting, visualizing the concepts and programming it for testing. I can't program much so I tend to avoid it and I tend to let others to the visualising after I did the basics. Programming is weird for me, I easilly know how to do it but I just can't, might be my dyslexia being a bitch. From all that I mostly focus on using the research to get conclusions and use that to find problems and design solutions for it, which I then design.
    Game design itself didn't bore, I just did a poor study unfortunately. If I'd get a job I would mostly be working on visuals which were designed by someone else. With my current study I can still become a game designer. There is even a minor in the same building which I could follow next year to give me a mnore of a specialization for it.

    Narration design is nice though

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    I have a 3 minute one fow now
    the more your materials fit to requirements - the more chance you'll get the correct type

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    For now yes, still open for SLI, IEI and potential LII though (or anything else)




    I have a 3 minute one fow now :x kids started to make noise behind my house, made me feel super awkward...
    This any use for you 2 for now?




    This actually used to be my very first typing when I just went over some Socionics and Enneagram tests and simple theory 2 years ago, don't know much about enneagram to confirm though.
    And you're the first to notice I wasnt too serious with my answers. I agree I should probably change my humour like that yeah, although I would get ego hate then...
    I'll check out the link
    What made you think of IEI-Ni though
    Sure! I’ll take a look at the small video. Thank you
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    For now yes, still open for SLI, IEI and potential LII though (or anything else)




    I have a 3 minute one fow now :x kids started to make noise behind my house, made me feel super awkward...
    This any use for you 2 for now?




    This actually used to be my very first typing when I just went over some Socionics and Enneagram tests and simple theory 2 years ago, don't know much about enneagram to confirm though.
    And you're the first to notice I wasnt too serious with my answers. I agree I should probably change my humour like that yeah, although I would get ego hate then...
    I'll check out the link
    What made you think of IEI-Ni though
    I guess it would be about using humour at the right place right time, depends on the atmosphere and the long term effect. I wouldn't use it when it isn't appropriate for example.

    For instance usually I'd use self appreciation humour in a joking manner to people I'm close to in introverted surroundings , e.g "I burned out more takedowns in this game then burnout takedown did in sales!"

    It's hard to explain why I chose IEI, a lot of your description is geared towards both Ni lead and e9.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LeaderLightChange View Post
    I guess it would be about using humour at the right place right time, depends on the atmosphere and the long term effect. I wouldn't use it when it isn't appropriate for example.

    For instance usually I'd use self appreciation humour in a joking manner to people I'm close to in introverted surroundings , e.g "I burned out more takedowns in this game then burnout takedown did in sales!"

    It's hard to explain why I chose IEI, a lot of your description is geared towards both Ni lead and e9.
    I suppose yeah :>, fair enough

    For Sol
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    10 EII
    11 SLI
    12 LSE
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    Feel free to message me if you(other than sol/bs) want to use the video

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    ESTj final and final type. The description that you highlighted in many colors is a terrible description of ESTj and not at all modern and based on functions
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Games nowadays involve so much time (waste of time) because they require time to farm for stuff.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    1. Introversion is not social.
    2. You can do Te -logical thinking without being a social person; this means that your logic is directed towards practical external activities of objects (this could be tactical approach to your video games). You could be using your Te to watch and observe what the other players are doing or what is being DONE in other ways.
    3. if you had your focus on Ni i doubt you wouldn't have a clear vision about what you want to do in the future.
    4. This sentence “I’m not sure how I would feel about that” speaks to the fact that you lack that very vision that I was speaking of regarding the evolution of your feelings in the future coupled with weak Fi (not understanding your own feelings).
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    1. Introversion is not social.
    2. You can do Te -logical thinking without being a social person; this means that your logic is directed towards practical external activities of objects (this could be tactical approach to your video games). You could be using your Te to watch and observe what the other players are doing or what is being DONE in other ways.
    3. if you had your focus on Ni i doubt you wouldn't have a clear vision about what you want to do in the future.
    4. This sentence “I’m not sure how I would feel about that” speaks to the fact that you lack that very vision that I was speaking of regarding the evolution of your feelings in the future coupled with weak Fi (not understanding your own feelings).
    Where can I find modern descriptions?

    I still think you're wrong, you are currently being holed up on 2 sentences and not everything which is written here or said on the short vid without going deeper in on it and assuming things.

    In my vid I even mentioned (I believe) that my previous manager and I actually did not get along specifically because of things happening in gulenkos description, I also mentioned that I dislike this about others:
    The LSE cannot live in chaos and disarray. Fights against lack of discipline, violation of norms and rules. Himself gives a personal example of good discipline and organization, but doesn't have enough strength to ensure this in others. Collects all the relevant information before he starts on anything serous. Cannot act in unsystematic, blind manner. Intolerant of trickery, hoaxes, wily schemes. Expresses his negative opinions rather directly. Critical in evaluating work, his own and that of others. Finds it difficult to explain the technology of some steps or actions, since systematic-analytical type of thinking is not his strong point. Instead of giving instructions prefers the method of "do as I do". Tries to move from words and get down to business as soon as possible.

    Knows how to make people work. Won't tolerate loafers and idlers near himself. Characterized by a strong sense of ownership. Won't allow anyone else to give commands on his territory. Lives by the principle "my home - my fortress". Invests all his efforts into the task at hand. Has little interest in various hobbies and other entertainments. Focuses strongly on the object of his work. Not inclined to use force to suppress, oppress, or seize power. The strength and abilities that he was endowed with by nature the LSE directs into productive matters and uninterrupted management of technical processes.
    I believe Sol is also an LSE right, I like the way he did the IR list but I for example would have used discription of your IR with types over a ranking, it is not black and white in my opinion. I ranked ILE last but I get along fine with one and have some good discussions, although we never get personal. (although to be fair I barely get with anyone) I also know a certain ESE after watching those vids(exact behavior, even facial features) which I get along with fine but never hang out/talk with about anything personal, the last time we met she seemed annoyed that I didn't greet her again after seeing her 2 hours earlier :X In those IR vids they generally make me go like "get away from me". ILI/LIE were easy top 2 though (and no I didnt know the keys)

    Your typing completely ignores my tendency to procastinate and dream.
    I also do have a long plan but I don't want to go in depth about that on here, but its always changing since the world changes, the big picture is always the same however ^^
    And yeah I don't know because I have nothing to go by. Someone taking care of me all the time will make me feel like I'm useless which then frustrates me but thats all I have.
    Games are fine if you avoid the bad ones, I actually avoid grindy games like the plague and already feel bored when I see how the game is going to play out for me. I can only play repetitive games if I have a close friend with me and even then Ill tell that friend it's going to suck. I tend to play for the challenge and new gameplay/story/dynamics, once there is no challenger or anything new anymore I tend to quit right away, unless there is a close friend which then makes me hold on for some longer. Most of my time playing is also consisting of me thinking up how I can get something the fastest/easiest way or how I can improve instead of actually playing, if it I don't find getting what I want fun then there won't be a point in playing for me. But yeah nowadays I don't play that much anymore anyway.

    Thanks though

    I suggest you (and others who like to type) look into the laddering technique or anything similar
    https://e-focusgroups.com/laddering-...rket-research/
    https://www.interaction-design.org/l...in-ux-research
    It will help you dig more into people and why they really think and do something. You ou should probably do it in private messages or some voice call since it takes a lot of back and forth. It takes some time to do it well and to learn doing it properly.

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    Tbh, it looks like Beautiful Sky types any guy she likes as LSE.
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    and everyone she doesn't SEE, lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    Where can I find modern descriptions?

    I still think you're wrong, you are currently being holed up on 2 sentences and not everything which is written here or said on the short vid without going deeper in on it and assuming things.

    In my vid I even mentioned (I believe) that my previous manager and I actually did not get along specifically because of things happening in gulenkos description, I also mentioned that I dislike this about others:

    I believe Sol is also an LSE right, I like the way he did the IR list but I for example would have used discription of your IR with types over a ranking, it is not black and white in my opinion. I ranked ILE last but I get along fine with one and have some good discussions, although we never get personal. (although to be fair I barely get with anyone) I also know a certain ESE after watching those vids(exact behavior, even facial features) which I get along with fine but never hang out/talk with about anything personal, the last time we met she seemed annoyed that I didn't greet her again after seeing her 2 hours earlier :X In those IR vids they generally make me go like "get away from me". ILI/LIE were easy top 2 though (and no I didnt know the keys)

    Your typing completely ignores my tendency to procastinate and dream.
    I also do have a long plan but I don't want to go in depth about that on here, but its always changing since the world changes, the big picture is always the same however ^^
    And yeah I don't know because I have nothing to go by. Someone taking care of me all the time will make me feel like I'm useless which then frustrates me but thats all I have.
    Games are fine if you avoid the bad ones, I actually avoid grindy games like the plague and already feel bored when I see how the game is going to play out for me. I can only play repetitive games if I have a close friend with me and even then Ill tell that friend it's going to suck. I tend to play for the challenge and new gameplay/story/dynamics, once there is no challenger or anything new anymore I tend to quit right away, unless there is a close friend which then makes me hold on for some longer. Most of my time playing is also consisting of me thinking up how I can get something the fastest/easiest way or how I can improve instead of actually playing, if it I don't find getting what I want fun then there won't be a point in playing for me. But yeah nowadays I don't play that much anymore anyway.

    Thanks though

    I suggest you (and others who like to type) look into the laddering technique or anything similar
    https://e-focusgroups.com/laddering-...rket-research/
    https://www.interaction-design.org/l...in-ux-research
    It will help you dig more into people and why they really think and do something. You ou should probably do it in private messages or some voice call since it takes a lot of back and forth. It takes some time to do it well and to learn doing it properly.
    Your LSE is in asssessing people and giving them instructions and not knowing EII who won’t follow it. Lol

    You criticize how things are done what can be done to be different (efficiency),
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    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
    Tbh, it looks like Beautiful Sky types any guy she likes as LSE.
    Sense perception makes shallow and hasty guesses because they are surface types who don’t see deeply. You did exactly that when you throw out a silly comment. First of all, I didn’t know he was a guy when I assessed his writing. You need to bottle your Se before you make conclusions that bite you in the ass

    And now you are supervising me and putting volition pressure on me
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etar View Post
    Where can I find modern descriptions?

    I still think you're wrong, you are currently being holed up on 2 sentences and not everything which is written here or said on the short vid without going deeper in on it and assuming things.

    In my vid I even mentioned (I believe) that my previous manager and I actually did not get along specifically because of things happening in gulenkos description, I also mentioned that I dislike this about others:

    I believe Sol is also an LSE right, I like the way he did the IR list but I for example would have used discription of your IR with types over a ranking, it is not black and white in my opinion. I ranked ILE last but I get along fine with one and have some good discussions, although we never get personal. (although to be fair I barely get with anyone) I also know a certain ESE after watching those vids(exact behavior, even facial features) which I get along with fine but never hang out/talk with about anything personal, the last time we met she seemed annoyed that I didn't greet her again after seeing her 2 hours earlier :X In those IR vids they generally make me go like "get away from me". ILI/LIE were easy top 2 though (and no I didnt know the keys)

    Your typing completely ignores my tendency to procastinate and dream.
    I also do have a long plan but I don't want to go in depth about that on here, but its always changing since the world changes, the big picture is always the same however ^^
    And yeah I don't know because I have nothing to go by. Someone taking care of me all the time will make me feel like I'm useless which then frustrates me but thats all I have.
    Games are fine if you avoid the bad ones, I actually avoid grindy games like the plague and already feel bored when I see how the game is going to play out for me. I can only play repetitive games if I have a close friend with me and even then Ill tell that friend it's going to suck. I tend to play for the challenge and new gameplay/story/dynamics, once there is no challenger or anything new anymore I tend to quit right away, unless there is a close friend which then makes me hold on for some longer. Most of my time playing is also consisting of me thinking up how I can get something the fastest/easiest way or how I can improve instead of actually playing, if it I don't find getting what I want fun then there won't be a point in playing for me. But yeah nowadays I don't play that much anymore anyway.

    Thanks though

    I suggest you (and others who like to type) look into the laddering technique or anything similar
    https://e-focusgroups.com/laddering-...rket-research/
    https://www.interaction-design.org/l...in-ux-research
    It will help you dig more into people and why they really think and do something. You ou should probably do it in private messages or some voice call since it takes a lot of back and forth. It takes some time to do it well and to learn doing it properly.
    This is a good description of LSE

    http://www.socionics.com/advan/prof/estj.htm
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    Filatova LSE

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...ion-(Filatova)

    The very first sentence indicates your tendency to be NEGATIVIST and find faults in methods, like my own, and you not knowing the functions and presses of the psyche from not understanding Socionics well enough makes you not understand how I focus in on relevant but pretend information that involves each type. That stems from 15 years of Socionics experience so judge my overall razor sharp impressions that are overall impressions because I am an Ne type
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    I expected this to happen when I joined the forum tbh

    That Filatova description is the one I used before on Si, it is incorrect for me(not just Si)
    The other one is almost fully wrong, I do predict what can go wrong or even that it can go wrong. I have expectations of what people can screw up and what they will not do, even if I tell them(which doesnt happen that often since I let others lead)
    I'm also really not practical and hands on.
    From the questionaire:
    How would your friends describe you?
    Stuff I've heard from multiple people in the last months: way too quiet, too much with his head somewhere else
    To add to this the feedback I go specifically from my last project: Show us more of how you think and what you make, we know you know a lot and can do a lot but you don't show it (from my project group)

    It is in conflict with LSE

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