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    Im so stinking judgmental. A couple comes in the store today and shows us pictures of their wedding and the man says “we’ve been together for so long we thought we’d get married “ and the new wife says “yeah it’s been over 20 years.” I’m looking at the wedding pictures trying to refrain myself from saying something awkward since these are great people but what I was thinking was “you decide to get married NOW????!!!! seriously??!??? What the eff if the point?!?” And while I’m thinking this and shaking my inner head she says “it really feels different to be married” and my inner thoughts are saying “this is idiotic. At least the cake looks awesome.”
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    lol yes you are. But most people are probably just as judge-y as you. Only God is supposed to judge but we judge anyway. /shrug.

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    Well one of the reasons why people (remain) judgmental, is probably because they receive no feedback from others. If you're being judgmental and you see that the person being judged is being uncomfortable, then you'd probably stop the judging. That's the "stopper" for being judgmental.

    You on the other hand seem to consistently want to show yourself as a "hardened soul" and an "unemotional badass" with "big balls". You mock people for crying easily while you don't, and you seem to be quite proud of it. That appears to be partly connected to you being judgmental, because perhaps you don't accept any feedback from others. Or even think that those feedback are legitimate, because after all, you're apparently not personally affected by it in the same way. Or at least you say that you're not affected.

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    If you're being judgmental and you see that the person being judged is being uncomfortable, then you'd probably stop the judging. That's the "stopper" for being judgmental.
    Really? I would think that would just make you judge the person even more. =/ lol. I don't believe empathy would be enough to stop it. But there are good judgements and negative judgements.

    That appears to be partly connected to you being judgmental, because perhaps you don't accept any feedback from others. Or even think that those feedback are legitimate, because after all, you're apparently not personally affected by it in the same way. Or at least you say that you're not affected.


    I agree with this tho and I think that's a pretty accurate insight of Maritsa.


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    yeah you are kind of idiotic maritsa, we know that.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    yeah you are kind of idiotic maritsa, we know that.
    so is your Se
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    so is your Se
    it´s not about functions...
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    it´s not about functions...
    it IS with you
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    it IS with you
    You´re being judgemental now
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    You´re being judgemental now
    of course. I have no issue with it. If you do there's the ignore function.
    You have a nasty tendency to play bad guy than nice an loving guy. You're like a cat that dangles cheese in front of a mouse as to eventually slash it.
    I get so tired of the ups and downs that you display. Very very tired.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    of course. I have no issue with it. If you do there's the ignore function.
    You have a nasty tendency to play bad guy than nice an loving guy. You're like a cat that dangles cheese in front of a mouse as to eventually slash it.
    I get so tired of the ups and downs that you display. Very very tired.
    Becuase you think you're perfect?

    You think you're loving when you put people down because they want to celebrate their love with an official marriage?

    When you type 80% of New male members as LSE?

    When you say blacks are Sees?
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    Quote Originally Posted by BandD View Post
    Really? I would think that would just make you judge the person even more. =/ lol. I don't believe empathy would be enough to stop it. But there are good judgements and negative judgements.

    I agree with this tho and I think that's a pretty accurate insight of Maritsa.
    I think that people do need feedback from other people. If they don't, then they just become self-righteous and more judgmental. Perhaps judgmental people are quite isolated.

    Maybe that's why there's an expression "ivory tower".

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    I don't think there's a problem with being judgmental as long as you recognize when it's appropriate to express that judgment. And sometimes even when you don't.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    I don't think there's a problem with being judgmental as long as you recognize when it's appropriate to express that judgment. And sometimes even when you don't.
    I know when it’s appropriate and not. I have seen awkward moments when someone was not and just said whatever was on their mind (wait that was an LSE who complicated his relationship hahah). Yes maybe it allowed me to formulate a plan to aid smooth things over when my dual does it lol.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Most humans with any experience at all are judgemental although many will swear up and down that they're not. I used to quip that the most judgemental people that I've ever met were p-types.......

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Most humans with any experience at all are judgemental although many will swear up and down that they're not. I used to quip that the most judgemental people that I've ever met were p-types.......

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    Hmm. I'm pretty judgemental depending on how it's perceived. I tend to get pretty clear ideas in my head about people from brief interactions, but I don't think I act unpleasant toward anyone based on them, or act/feel much differently in general. For instance, if I get the impression that someone is stupid or rude, I don't generally care. Maybe the difference between P and J types is how much emotion or mental energy the person invests into their judgement.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Im so stinking judgmental. A couple comes in the store today and shows us pictures of their wedding and the man says “we’ve been together for so long we thought we’d get married “ and the new wife says “yeah it’s been over 20 years.” I’m looking at the wedding pictures trying to refrain myself from saying something awkward since these are great people but what I was thinking was “you decide to get married NOW????!!!! seriously??!??? What the eff if the point?!?” And while I’m thinking this and shaking my inner head she says “it really feels different to be married” and my inner thoughts are saying “this is idiotic. At least the cake looks awesome.”
    You can pat yourself on the back for being conscious of it, or regretful (if you are). But honestly, this is not that judgmental. It can be so much worse. ;-D

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Hmm. I'm pretty judgemental depending on how it's perceived. I tend to get pretty clear ideas in my head about people from brief interactions, but I don't think I act unpleasant toward anyone based on them, or act/feel much differently in general. For instance, if I get the impression that someone is stupid or rude, I don't generally care. Maybe the difference between P and J types is how much emotion or mental energy the person invests into their judgement.
    Judgemental shouldn't be a type related term, and being judgemental in a negative sense is more a function of upbringing and experience. I've personally had to deal with too many XXTps who've expended enormous amounts of energy trying to bring down people they've unfairly judged as unworthy. However, I've also had to deal with most other types because they were guilty of prejudgement errors - it's a normal part of work supervision.

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