I can not relax. I envy those who can. I can not for the life of me. Externally I can go to a park walk etc but internally I’m “this needs to be done, that, let me not forget this and I’ll have to work at this a while.”
What is the best way to relax?
I can not relax. I envy those who can. I can not for the life of me. Externally I can go to a park walk etc but internally I’m “this needs to be done, that, let me not forget this and I’ll have to work at this a while.”
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Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
A book and tea works for me, or taking a walk.
Hitting the gym and lifting weights is probably the best way for me. I need to do something to reboot myself and kill the stress. After working out I can relax, read, listen to music.
Spending a weekend in our cabin in the countryside is also great. Chopping wood and walking in the forest.
Seeing friends and social dancing
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Here comes the Si@Tallmo I haven’t exercised in a while.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
A bottle of wine also helps a lot. But Ive stopped drinking now because I need to find healthier ways to relax.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Smoke a joint of indica and hang out at your room alone with music and videos from YouTube.
On a more serious note: naps, jogging and meditating work well.
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Lol Raver. I’m so square about drugs and stuff that if I ever did that my husband would crack up.Originally Posted by Raver
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
There's no 'way' to relaxing. You're either relaxed or you're not.
Methods/techniques to relax often make me more anxious. I remember sometimes trying to listen to soothing music/typical anti anxiety stuff and it actually made me MORE stressed- not less. If you can be relaxed even in the midst of chaos- that is the true paramount to change cuz relaxation comes from within not from a CD or mantra or scented candles and hot spas etc.
That’s a great idea. I’ll try it
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I find it more difficult to not be relaxed. So basically anything I chose to do of my own free will will relax me. Even when I'm stressed or whatever I'm always being tugged out of it.
I’m just gathering ideas and perspectives from my favorite group
It’s either you or YouTube but YouTube doesn’t make me laugh nearly as much as you
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
A year ago we bought an inflatable hot tub, I use it almost every day. To me it's the only effective way of serious loitering and being able of letting go this nagging feeling of always having to do something.
Obviously you need to have space, and preferably a warm climate so the electricity bill doesn't skyrocket.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
I think this really differs from person to person. Some people simply need some kind of outside intervention to get into a relaxed state, and this is typically true for Delta NFs. I have a lot of benefits from my spa, but I do realize that this is not necessarily a benefit to a lot of other people. E.g. some people already are in a relaxed state by default, and they sometimes need a proverbial kick in the butt in order to get into action ;-)
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
@consentingadult
Yeah, and I also think exercise/something stimulating can also be relaxing at the same time. Idk sometimes I take it to me being left-handed and my brain being backwards compared to most people so sometimes the opposite effect on me will have the right, desired effect lol.
1.write down the things you need to do
2.sort them by priority
3.plan what you want to do on which day
4.do said tasks, don't multitask
5.relax
because you know that you're getting your shit done
keep a notebook so you don't forget what you need to do
revise said notebook at the end of each day
It depends on what you mean by relaxed. To some people, it’s chilling out or escapism. To others it’s recharging, to some it’s being treated to something like a spa day.
But if you’re not talking about a treat or an escape, but rather you mean wanting to have the values you have, yet be a little less wound up, one thing you can try is Alexander technique. This is a good basic book about it:
https://www.amazon.com/Body-Learning...s%2C138&sr=8-2
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
Omg I just read your signature
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
My husband is the quoted person. He does have ideas, though. I think.Omg I just read your signature
LSI: “I still can’t figure out Pinterest.”
Me: “It’s just, like, idea boards.”
LSI: “I don’t have ideas.”
I read a good recommendation on a book on procrastination once, that basically said the same thing, but added one very important thing: to add recreational/fun activities to your to do list, because without these items, to-do lists might give the subconscious impression that life is all about obligations. I found that was very helpful.
Another good pointer was not to overplan (because with the more irrational -non-socionically speaking- among us, too much planning can create psychological resistance). And not focus too much an the end result, often tasks have a greater chance of being completed if you just tell yourself you are going to work on it for 30 minutes.
“I have never tried that before, so I think I should definitely be able to do that.” --- Pippi Longstocking
Praying and having the right mindset. Usually I feel stressed out when I start over thinking in stuff with wrong mindset and not looking at stuff within the right perspective. In socionics I think having enough and correct info in Suggestive and Movilizing would get you at ease, while going into Role and Ignoring can stress us (and we work with these functions when we stress as well).
to sleep
@Sol
I do suffer from this because baby wakes up in the middle of the night to eat and that's the rest of the night for me right there. Can't get back to sleep.
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
@ooo
concentrait on good thoughts and stop inner talking to back to sleep
Try to think about the inevitability of it all, and find yourself at peace with the stream - easier said than done, of course. Isn't this what we talk about when we use the term 'wisdom'? To relax, to be at peace?
It's a process. I have recently been stressed after work, and when I go to bed I'm still slightly stressed, even after an evening of relaxing at home and I can feel it in the night also. Not good.
The stress stays in the body and mind somehow. One has to do some compensatory activity to change the circuits in the mind that are stressed. Doing nothing is not good for relaxing if you are already stressed, I agree with BandD.
I just went to the gym and it worked wonders. Weight lifting at slow pace for one hour and then shower and sauna. Then a short walk home in the nice weather.
Now I would be ready for even more relaxing things like reading or yoga.
So I think one has to take it step by step.
Or one could always move to some small town or village were life is simple and slow.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I do think this is a big thing about it. No matter how much you improve, no matter what you do or where you go or what you learn- you are going to die. And death is the ultimate peace.Try to think about the inevitability of it all, and find yourself at peace with the stream - easier said than done, of course.
I think this maybe be why Anthony Bourdain killed himself. I do think suicide is frequently a bigger, more complicated issue than 'god I'm so sad- I want to die.' It's more like to me something where the person gets deep enough to realize the inevitably of everything ending, and just speeds it up a whole bunch.
I also look at it as why get worked up and stressed over something when .... in the end nothing really matters. /plays angsty linkin park music. Nothing really matters, because there wasn't ever anything there in the first place. Nothing/nihilism is all that there is. It's not sad though, it's only an illusion that it's sad because even the sadness and pain dies, along with the happiness. It just ENDS!!!
Learning something new tends to relax me. So does working out and going for hikes.
I love that you described it as it social dancing.
What do you mean?
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
I relax way too much. I watch too much TV. I need to take more books out from the library. And just have them there to dip into. Dancing to good music with friends in a cool place is something that makes me feel happy and peaceful. I also feel relaxed around certain people- si types mostly, although it’s a bit complicated with LSE. Reading a novel helps me get to sleep, if I wake up with anxiety/weird anger I’ve started saying out loud ‘everything’s fine, tomorrow this good thing will happen, you’re happy about such n such, you’re gonna do such n such soon.’
Sometimes I think that I’m trying to replicate the lifestyle of my childhood to feel happy. I used to play outside a lot, watch a lot of movies, read a bit, did my homework. I think going to raves feels very similar to playing outside with my friends. I enjoyed learning a lot more as a kid so it would be cool to be a bit more of a nerd again
I live close to a beautiful park which I’d like to visit more frequently.
also socialising/eating out..I quite like cafes..
Last edited by Bethanyclaire; 11-28-2021 at 01:29 PM.
Hm as in you didn’t just say ‘seeing friends and dancing’. You emphasised the social aspect, which I totally get coz I like dancing with friends too. It’s a way of connecting.
I think it is an expression in English "social dancing". Like salsa, foxtrot, tango etc. You go to some dance event and meet people and ask someone to dance. But yes, it is a way of connecting. Like when you dance with somebody, it can be like a mini date.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
stop living by setting goals and set principles instead. like depending on what's happening u should be doing x thing now, this includes nothing/relaxing, instead of thinking about what u should be doing but not doing now bc u have to do somehting else now like relaxing. u must always be doing the most important thing u should be doing right now.
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Oh ok my bad. That sounds fun..I’ve never tried that type of dancing but I like the sound of being asked to danceLearning moves sounds hard though. I like raves (nice cool ones). I like just being next to my friends, chatting a bit, but mostly just being with them, also looking at the crowd, looking at people dancing lol
In bed and snuggling with a body pillow. The blankets covering you and keeping you warm. The Tv is on playing your favorite show and you have a hot noddle dish right next to you. Hoodie on with the hood pulled up. Cold day where you have nothing to do an you just took a hot shower beforehand. Hair is wet with the hood on. Face feels clean and moisturized. You just cant help but happy sigh.
With or without clothing?
Laying down in bed and talking to ghosts is how familiar to unknown gentle waves of the breezy canvas expel the raging trip to castles of oblivion.
Basically, thinking and wishing with the heavenly for matches made in heaven to find plush and foaming Minute Maid is how reservoirs of sun and peace click into place for the heart to be released from all burdens, through ghost symphony express to polar planes.
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Walk to the top of a steep hill or to a lookout
Sit to take in the view, notice as many details around me as possible
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