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    The great Zen master Zhuang Zhou dreamt that he was a butterfly. When he awoke, he asked himself, "Am I a man who just dreamt about being a butterfly, or am I a butterfly who now dreams about being a man?"

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    I'm an agnostic, but if God existed, I'd imagine he'd be basically all of the functions at once, maybe 4D of every single function or even more. God is omnipotent and omniscient so he should be adept at all of the functions simultaneously.
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    I'm god

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    Some gods in the literature are more concerned with law, others are more concerned with sympathy magic, and some others are more zen-like.

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    Ni is a deluded attempt at Ne, which is the most perfect function; therefore, God is Ne.

    Really though, what sort of question is this?

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    God is Thinking base ego at least in christian tradition.
    A true sense-perception certainly exists, but it always looks as though objects were not so much forcing their way into the subject in their own right as that the subject were seeing things quite differently, or saw quite other things than the rest of mankind. As a matter of fact, the subject perceives the same things as everybody else, only, he never stops at the purely objective effect, but concerns himself with the subjective perception released by the objective stimulus.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Some gods in the literature are more concerned with law, others are more concerned with sympathy magic, and some others are more zen-like.
    Yeah. Answering the OP's question really depends on which view of god we're trying to type. Old testament/Torah god for instance is much different from how modern christians tend to see him or her.

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    of course if you take a more vedantic view, it could be said god uses each of the functions to varying degrees depending on each individual human.

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    You can't spell "ineffable" without Ne.
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    God of OT is LSI.

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    Clearly Ne base: He had an idea, worked on the initial phase of the project, lost interest and then expected others to finish the project in the spirit of his intentions, then got angry when it turned out they had ideas of their own, but could do nothing about it (lack of Se), thus retaliated disproportionally (Se-role). He must be either ILE or IEE. The Jewish/Muslim God is ILE (Ti approach), whereas the Christian God is more IEE (Fi approach).
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    old biblic god is very Te + Se, christian god very Fi, also Jesus was a wizard and wizards are deff Ne

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    The world around was made by flatus of an introverted sensing ego but objectively it just stinks (Se).
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    Ni because he has stuff going on all the time.
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
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    The Old Testament God is ESE-Si, Jesus EII-Fi

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    Se-dom. The gods spent their time boning things and doing whatever else they felt like with the world outside them.

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    Depends on which god and which interpretation of said god.

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    If we are talking about the Christian god, then Se ego. SLE precisely:
    - Se ego, because if he was Ne ego he would never finish the universe
    - Fe hidden agenda with his desire to be worshipped - this was more evident in the Old Testament
    - Fi PoLR, because he was so fucking obnoxious at it people feared him instead of loving him. So he send his ethical son to restore his reputation

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    God the Father, or God the Son?

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    The Father and Holy Spirit cannot be typed. Christ seems EII to me.

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    God can do everything, knows everything, and predict everything so he's everything but a weak-ass feeler.

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    Quote Originally Posted by LemurianLo View Post
    The Father and Holy Spirit cannot be typed.

    Watch me.
    As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods. They kill us for their sport.

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    God is a harsh abrasive fiery mix of Se/Te/Fe really. A Holy Trinity of Se, Te and Fe. Ne is sort-of God like too, but also contains debris of Non-god like energy or lesser God stuff so it isn't so much that.

    Christ is Si definitely (not God, but his much faggier son), especially 'Christ Consciousness' read more of Alex Marchand if u wanna hear about it.

    Ni is a weaker form of God energy, 'god's prophets' sort of thing. It is God-like but not god himself. Or sort of like processed frozen food instead of a real meal. Kiiiiind of. A much diluted form of God, maybe better said.
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    Ti is Satanic. The most Satanic, as it encourages logical diversionary systems that break up the unity of the human race. But this difference also is what springs forth lust, competition/comparison etc.

    Fi is like God's gift to us, but kind of in a sense where its more human bond/love than God. Objectively, both Fi and Si are the farthest away from God. Fi is making up your own internal perceptions of how you feel about something, and whilst it can be moral or enlightened in a limited or coincidental sense- it is not up for your own heart to decide what is good/'attractive' or not, it is up to God. God says homosexuality is wrong, for example - so it's wrong. You don't argue with it and say 'well my internal subjective Fi is drawn to it, and it feels like it's good- so it's good.' You tend to feel all smug and self righteous when God's pov happens to line up with your own, but this is a mere lucky coincidence and that is why they say 'only God can judge.'

    You can't argue or fight God. You think you can, he crits you for 4323743927423984723984723498723 HP worth of damage, showing you who is the boss alpha daddy. God is naturally terrifying, only things that 'come after' God have the potential to be sweeter and more innocent. This is like, a byproduct of God's natural Fe.

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    God is a self functioning dice.

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    Most God like to least God like:

    Te
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    Fe
    Si
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    I heard Alex on Joe Rogan's show say that God, "doesn't know where he came from". He is trying to find himself. The only thing God doesn't know is himself and he seeks himself throughout all of time.

    (LSE?) With Schizoid tendencies aside, there is something to what he said.

    The wisdom of youtuber comments:

    When Alex mentioned God is just trying to figure out where He came from, that really made sense. In this scenario there are two facts:1. God knows everything except one thing, where He came from.2. According to the Scriptures, we were made in God's image. Imagine knowing everything, but one thing. In order to figure out where He came from, He had to create a super-smart species that has similar powers to Himself, so the level of thinking, creation, and testing that is necessary to find the answer is multiplied, increasing the chances of success. Us as a species trying to figure out where we came from is God's image, and once we figure it out, He'll finally have His answer.
    I'm curious about this question of God because of the mystery of consciousness and how it arose in a strange world where everything else around us is so dumb compared to us. This quest to find a cosmology is the question of God looking for where he came from. It mirrors the quest of us trying to discover the clock work mechanisms behind life and its meaning. Science says we are organic machines self reflecting our own existence, which is pretty fucking spooky if you ask me. Why would complex chemistry and energy exchange seek to know itself......

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    >follows you around everywhere and refuses to leave you alone ever because he wants to help you but you have to let him help you. he still won't go away though even if you don't want him there until you go to hell
    >likes you but if you don't like him back he'll just let you suffer forever after you die lol
    >even if you go your whole life without getting the chance to learn who he is you will suffer forever after death
    >requires consistent emotionally heavy acknowledgment of his goodness to be satisfied with you. if you can't open up to the love or can't feel it and don't love back deeply then fuck you, you will suffer forever after you die
    >if you kill an innocent person and repent you will go to heaven but if you skip mass out of laziness once and die before you get the chance to repent then you will suffer forever
    >if he disgusts, confuses, or scares you then it's your problem, not his, and you just have to deal with it and give him your love and trust or else you will suffer forever after you die

    The Christian God is the ultimate simplicity which all things are derived from who is not meant to have a sociotype but ESE is the closest you can get because there is clearly no Ni anywhere and he expects fuckhuge amounts of passionate devotion and explicit trust from anyone who doesn't want to burn in eternal fire.

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    One of the things that piss me off the most is being told that I have to feel a certain way especially when there are punishments if I don't. "Oh but you don't have to like him that's why there's free will durr." DOES ANY SANE PERSON REALLY WANT TO GO TO HELL? PRACTICALLY SPEAKING THERE IS NOTHING FREE ABOUT THIS CONCEPT THAT "Oh I can do whatever I want but I will be tortured for eternity after I die xD." That is like saying a free trial is "free" but you can't back out of it and you HAVE to pay with your love for and obedience to God. This bs "Well technically you can do what you feel like but practically this means nothing unless you are insane" is the WORST.

    No matter how many flowery esoterical theomalogical walltexts and pretty chants Catholicism hides under, at the end of the day, you are just being judged by your emotions along with some other stuff and then you are either having fun chanting along with cherubim and seraphim or you are being burnt for a crisp. Forever. Because of feefees. You can go your entire life without committing almost any mortal sin but if you don't have the right feefees for God then have fun getting maimed by demons and getting your eyeballs torn out.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    God is a self functioning dice.

    My god is a magic 8 Ball

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perpetual Now View Post
    My god is a magic 8 Ball
    My God comes in a wrapper of cellophane.




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    God is an unobservable... do you think that you can know about God from observable human behavior?

    If you think that observable human behavior is all that there is... then you lack imagination.

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    Interesting question, but impossible to answer, because god is inaccessible to human cognization.

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    God is a number you cannot count to.


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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Interesting question, but impossible to answer, because god is inaccessible to human cognization.
    How do you know I don't access God with my cognization every day?
    As flies to wanton boys are we to the gods. They kill us for their sport.

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    God is a super doG. It's all in the name.

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    Allah (God) isn't like us. The reason we have a type is due to our limited mental resources. He contains all the types (swt).
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    How do you know I don't access God with my cognization every day?
    How do you know that it is God what's on / in your mind?
    Do you experience the existence of an independed being inside you?
    Or is it your imagination or a projection of your own mind?

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    The same way I “know” the physical world isn’t just an illusion conjured to trick me.
    That would mean that you'd belong to a group of chosen ones, but you're unable to prove that, unless you can use information to demonstrate something in the real world you can't know, like precisely predicting future events.

    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    I could of course be tricked by a demon...
    There is a definition in psychology for feeling the presence of someone else in the own mind or hearing voices of strangers in your head, it's called Schizophrenia.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Sure, but you can’t prove that I don’t.
    Correct, but you can't show it to other people if it's in your mind only.

    You can't prove it to other people and any other person can't disprove it. And you can't be sure it's the voice of God in your head.
    What's the point of that discussion?

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    And I never said I could prophesy!
    I just showed you an option as example how to prove the existance of an other consciousness inside you.

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