Critical thinking is important here since being consistent doesn't mean being correct. Years of experience means nothing if you consistently mistype people based on their physiognomy, or how they make you feel, (some examples) for years.
He tries to spin it so his way is something fabulous which makes him appear much more 3ish than you. 3w2 so/sp specifically since he is highly image focused but spends a lot of time trying to influence others with his personality hypotheses .
If you read enneagram books the distinctions will become clearer. I think with sol it is a bit different. He calls it his intuition. I am pretty sure they are using similar methods but have built up different databases of patterns they use. I agree they are both J types as sol has mentioned so I think there is a common link between them and how they type others. Sol is an E1 though so he prefers to go a step further which is why he will ask people to take his test. He does not cut corners in the same way. He wants more proof that he is correct. As you know 1s, 3s, and 5s are part of the competency triad.
Ones can get into conflicts by being too impatient, rigid, and critical. Ones focus on solving problems by doing what's right. Ones strongly believe that by following the rules, their faith, or their principles they will come to a just and fair solution. Ones feel that they must put their own wants (and feelings) aside in order to remain objective (and autonomous from influence). Ones may appear cold to others and that they don't take into account the feelings of others.
Threes can get into conflicts by being too competitive, insincere, and boastful. Threes focus on being efficient and meeting their goals. When confronted with problems, they can easily set aside their own feelings and focus on the task at hand. In general, Threes want to follow existing structures. However, Threes are pragmatists that will cut corners to realize their goals.
Fives can get into conflicts by being too detached, isolated, and provocative. Fives naturally detach themselves emotionally from the world to be objective. They believe that they have the mental resources to deal with problems. In conflict, Fives will want to withdraw and will think for a while before coming back with a solution, often to the irritation of others. Fives feel that they can solve things by themselves, without relying on others. They may come back with highly original ideas (thinking outside the box). On the other hand, they may waste their time reinventing the wheel.
http://www.fitzel.ca/enneagram/harmonics.html
Here, let me show a description of 3 that he has posted but has not come right out and claimed to have written all by himself yet (there is a reason for this which I will get to in another post) and you tell me how much you relate. Not superficially but at your core.
Threes are independent. They have a goal-oriented nature and a drive towards self-determination. They are tough, resilient competitors who rely mainly on themselves to bounce back from set backs. The core distortion of the three is that they are superior beings for whom admiration is their due. Thus, their naturally high self-esteem is based on an unrealistic assumption about their worth.
Threes are self-confident. They have a self-assured quality. As a result of their confidence, they trust others and take a positive view towards the future. They cultivate a can-do attitude and channel their confidence into action and accomplishment.
Threes are competitive. They are hungry to seek out the admiration that they believe others owe them. They have the "eye of the tiger." They rely on their natural confidence to bounce back from any setback.
Threes are exhibitionist. With successes under their belt, they turn away from their focus on accomplishment and resort to self-promotion and showing off. They look to have their qualities admired. They want to be in the spotlight as much as possible. They find subtle and not so subtle ways to represent themselves as winners. They use their accomplishments to court attention, admirers, and "VIP" benefits.
Three are cocky. The admiration they receive through success cements their own cocksure belief of their superiority. They start to give others the impression that it's a pleasure to do business with the three as if others ought to be willing to take less just to have that luxury. Their former self-confidence is replaced by arrogance. They have begun to rationalize their failures. They spend a lot of time making their failures seem like successes.
Threes are egotistical. They start to view their non-admirers with contempt and don’t feel they should have to win people over or impress them. They begin to live more in fantasy to get away from all the non-admirers they have in reality. They give themselves rights off limits to other mortals. They exercise whatever power they might have in outrageous ways, one-upping others with their special privileges.
Threes are expansive. As they sink more into their fantasy world, their goals and self-image become more expansive. They weave together new fantastic rationales for their circumstances in order to recast themselves as the star. They exaggerate their own powers and come up with intricate rationalizations to feed their self-worth. They put others on notice that they are a superior being and that admiration is their due, that others need to be rolling out the red carpet for them.
Threes are self-aggrandizing. At bottom, their positive outlook is a thin veneer for a despairing life. Threes have no true relation to others and their overconfidence is pierced by reminders of their failings and falseness at every turn. Now having suffered persecution from non-admirers, threes believe they have confirmation of their importance, of their greatness. They put themselves on the pedestal of a messianic figure. They have a sense that history begins and ends with them, as if the transition from b.c. to a.d. occurred at some benchmark in the three's life such as raking in the first million dollars.
Unhealthy Threes are narcissistic. Their grandiosity is flagrant, maintained by disdain for reality, since reality is full of people who don’t share the threes' high sense of worth. Psychopathic revenge equates to a last ditch effort by threes to assert their superiority.
When healthy, Threes come to the realization that alone they are absent and are not ever going to be somebody unless they reach out to others and make genuine connections. Threes start to respect others, value other people’s opinions, and put a check on their fantasies. Healthy threes are also able to look at and question their own self-belief of being a superior individual.
3w2s are gamesmen. Gamesmanship is a stable trait of the 3w2's personality that makes them able competitors in pretty much whatever they set their mind on doing. They don't necessarily have to possess any experience in the field they are competing at in order to win. They compensate for their lack of knowledge with gamesmanship, an art that 3w2s have an innate knowledge of.
3w2s are motivators. They how to get a crowd pumped up. They easily fit the mold of a television personality or super salesperson.
3w2s are political. They know how to work and charm people. They often do well in politics and are good at marketing a brand or idea to people. No other type can represent a belief in the type of overly confident outrageous fashion that the 3w2 can.
3w2s are braggarts. They are loud and proud about their accomplishments and positive qualities. They have an itch to brag and impress about all of the seemingly great things they have done. Their hyper-real self-promotion can make them seem unreal.
3w2s are super-competitive. When their past accomplishments are questioned, they launch into an invective of personal attacks. They are ultra-competitive towards anybody who even remotely expresses a disfavor able opinion towards them. Their modus operandi is to seize upon a small flaw of their opponent and blow it up into a gross mischaracterization of who that person is. They want to outshine everybody.
Proclaiming oneself an authority does not make one an authority. How many self proclaimed experts can you believe when they can't even agree amongst themselves? I don't see authority here at all. Just an authoritative tone. He just speaks confidently about his typings which influences some who seek authority figures. It may also be because you are only 17. Sol also speaks in an authoritative tone but between them they type you as your own dual.
Keep in mind both primarily type celebs when it comes to VI so there is no feedback. He, like sol, does not place much emphasis on what you say about yourself, it is the VI. He already has you doubting how you come off to others. I do not believe you are putting on an intellectual persona. I think it is just how you are.
Anyway, Celebs are people they have no interaction with. They can type them anything without fear of being questioned. If you knew the history you would see the pattern in K4s typings of forum members. Those who were here before his time, he mostly just agrees with their self type, especially if they were already in his quadra and he viewed them as higher status than him. As long as they never questioned his type that is. Questioning him hurts his feelings. I found this out the hard way. He got extremely paranoid about me when I questioned him when I was new.
Also keep in mind he probably hasn't even VI-ed half his typing list of forum members, yet VI is his gold standard. Again, how is that an authority? I know quite a few on his list that he never laid his eyes on. He has static perceptions that rarely change. You will remain on his list as ESE, especially if you question him. He has the forum owner as ESE too which is quite strange. Then there is the matter of him now claiming stackemup enneagram even though he has never confirmed, when asked, if he was actually part of the team who did the typings. More on this in another thread.
I am more confused than intrigued by his typing you ESE. I have an ESE sister. She has been typed ESE by Ashton who was once also seen as an authority here. Sol typed her SEI which was close enough. You do not come off ESE. That would mean you have weak Ti and Ni.
Disclaimer: I have been recently accused of spreading disinformation when it comes to enneagram so you may keep that in mind when reading my post. All I can say to that is to read the books yourself.
I gave up on tritype over a year ago. It was useful but after going back to the root of enneagram I found I no longer needed it. I think if you are going to look into a type then look at the wings and the integration/disintegration points. If you cannot relate to them too on some level then look at the other two types you have in your tritype and do the same. I see others are doing this more lately. If anyone is interested in my reason you can read it here:
http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin/showthread.php/17272-Possible-Enneagram-types-of-forum-members?p=1262990&viewfull=1#post1262990



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