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    What professions did you quit and why?

    I was going to be a journalist. I gave it up because you are only as good as your last breaking story and I needed to be in something with roots (traditions) history and substance so I went into religious studies (kinda fitting for an Fi type)
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    I originally was going to major in journalism, until I realized it's basically just a means for establishment social control. Then I was a History major until I realized the only way to make enough to survive in that is as an academic. Then I stupidly wound up in an extremely Ne Ti line of work because it provides one of the few remaining means to compete against and beat teams of other people directly.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    What professions did you quit and why?

    I was going to be a journalist. I gave it up because you are only as good as your last breaking story and I needed to be in something with roots (traditions) history and substance so I went into religious studies (kinda fitting for an Fi type)
    did you consider a critic/commentator approach?
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    Quote Originally Posted by kalinoche View Post
    did you consider a critic/commentator approach?
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
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    well if you ever do get around doing it, you could enrich your content with historical/religious references
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    I quit my job I had at a sandwich shop when I was 17 by walking out mid shift without telling anyone. The owner was a sexist a-hole, and one day I realized that no one was forcing me to work there and that I could leave. So that’s what I did.

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    Lawn Mower Entrepreneur - I was too young to get a regular job, so I cut lawns in the neighborhood for money.
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    At this point, I was going to be an Astrophysicist, but I gave up my dream when I discovered that the Astrophysicists who were teaching me were dweebs, and I didn't want to work with dweebs for the rest of my life so I quit that profession to make more money.

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    Engineering Manager - quit to be a house husband.
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    Most of these aren't professions in the normal sense, but rather are simply "jobs". However, had I pursued any of these lines of work, they could have turned into professions.
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    Ive never quit a profession so to speak but in terms of jobs I've had that I no longer do:
    Barista
    Bookseller
    Ad Rater
    Housekeeper
    Houseman
    Maintenance Tech
    Receptionist
    File Clerk
    Cleaning Manager
    Worked at Chipotle for a day then quit lol

    Never been fired.

    The only profession I've pursued is the one I'm still in and don't intend to ever quit.
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    I studied fashion for a couple of years. Wanted to take a break from math people who I considered too nerdy and cheerful for me so I tried to take some fashion classes on the side and was about to change degrees. I was planning of expressing geometric figures through clothing and one of my bigger goals then was to produce fabric and clothing for harsh terrains and space exploration.

    The initial classes were a mix. We had to make concept and mood boards, and sometimes after presentations we had to sketch a design after based on the subject matter. Mine would always get picked and graded high because I would always have a specific concept in mind and could explain it clearly (maybe skill of Ni). However I had a lot of reasons why it wasn't the path for me. At the end of the day conceptualizing is just a tiny piece of fashion and I suck at everything else.

    You always have to be outspoken and you have to network. But I even felt like an outsider even with the friends I had there (I think they were IEE and EIE). I always thought people are vapid as fuck talking about their shopping sprees and boyfriends, people would try to hog the spotlight and get too competitive even if they didn't deserve it. I don't think I have learned something really that technical, I always thought they sounded dumb including the teachers. And then people would try to be friendly but I cannot hide the fact that I don't like them. So I would just smile and act polite but I probably seemed like I am looking down at them anyway.

    In our college in general, people wanted to come off as socially-aware because of some political issues we have here. I hated that. Some would produce avante-garde, politically-aware clothing and in my head those weren't even pretty and look like trash bags and were done only for the sake of being 'conscious', whatever that means. If not that, they would just come up with just sexy lingeries and gowns that don't even touch my heart.

    I hated the sewing classes too. I always thought it's not my job to learn how to sew and I should pay someone to do that for me while I pin down the concept. I'm not a Sensing type lol. My sewing teachers hated me a lot because I would do the bare minimum and not attend classes as much as possible.

    I also didn't talk much about my ideas and made them more grounded because everyone is just into form not function. And I already felt weird enough because their goals were too different from mine. Like for example I tried making a concept about repetition of life as I was inspired by Julio Cortazar's works. I didn't know that activity was to be shared, I thought it will just be submitted. I kinda regretted it as I felt weirded out explaining myself and felt like an outsider.

    Small group of classmates and professors I had are even into preserving culture - their goal is to use local fabrics and follow traditional fashion. I have never understood that. For me, that's just being stuck in the past and that's not taking into account what the general population wants. So in the end, if you pursue that path your clients will just be rich people who wants to be socially-aware to preserve their own ego. Like those food and art elitists.

    To really realize if it was for me, I tried to see how the whole industry is like. So I joined a fashion show as an assistant. I helped assist the models, check and repair the dresses, etc. Hated every second of it. They went drinking after, I didn't join.

    So regrettable. But then as a sappy ILI I regret everything. Unless I make my own career I'll not be happy in any profession I would take up I think.
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    @one, your experience speaks to me on so many levels. Hoepfully I will have time toexplain that pretty soon.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eliza Thomason View Post
    one, your experience speaks to me on so many levels. Hoepfully I will have time toexplain that pretty soon.
    Yeah, would love to know about that
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    ive never quit a job, so theres a hint of my IJness even if i'm a spaz lol.

    college: human services
    first job: got hired because of my related internship with the county helping with welfare and layoffs, but funds were slashed. then
    second job: nudged into administrative work at a commercial real estate firm who were fkn assholes (seriously) but instead of quitting, i passively fkd around until i got myself fired. then
    third (and final?): initially i was an admin at this bank, but since i'm pretty chad i am now a compliance analyst ie dominatrix

    i'm ready to stop

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    Hi One, like I said, I related to what you shared on many levels.

    First, Socionically, it was interesting to see how an ILI thinks through and decides things. You approached with a conceptual idea. As to that, the geometric shapes suit a certain fashion style that is harder to find these days so clothing in that style would fit a niche. In David Kibbe's styles, that would be especially the "Dramatic" and the "Flamboyant Gamine" style types. I helped a friend re-do her wardrobe in that latter style. because she had issues with multiples, she had a lot of styles in her wardrobe including some soft flowy Victorian styles that made her look frumpy. She was a quick study and very motivated so it was an amazing transformation. Her new look was perfect on her, so fresh and bright. We also re-did her house in that style. My style is soft classic so I would look faded and lost in geometrics.

    When you said "one of my bigger goals then was to produce fabric and clothing for harsh terrains and space exploration", I immediately thought of an ILI friend, who got two degrees, first in Library science, and it wasn't for him so he got a second degree in architecture, when I knew him, and also he took a conceptual approach. I remember his big final project was designing a home for the homeless, with a lot of complex thought into the whole conceptual design. It was a great contribution to the problem, if someone would do the work to make it come about. Just as doing the grunt work of sewing clothes is not your thing, he was about concept not implementation.

    Another thing that made a light go on in my head that you wrote it this:
    ...we had to sketch a design after based on the subject matter. Mine would always get picked and graded high because I would always have a specific concept in mind and could explain it clearly (maybe skill of Ni)...
    I took a class in printmaking for my Masters and our professor was art critic for the local paper, so I wanted to please, and as always I was striving to get an A. When the assignment was multi-color lino-block printing, which I had never done before, I went all out with a carved landscape derived from a photo I took, having to think through when to stop carving for the different layers, a process that couldn't be repeated. It was complicated, took a lot of thought and care, and a lot of time. No one spent more time in the art room on that project than me. I was also teaching fulltime at the time, for a very large population, and commuting in opposite directions.

    The final run of the 5th color was successful, and carefully done, even though I wasn't that happy with the aesthetics of the final piece. But I learned a whole lot in the process, and a bonus was my carved lino block was beautiful at the end, and the professor suggested I do one-color print of that, and the result was amazing; I still cherish that piece.

    But then came the critique. A colleague who taught at the local art gallery came in and completed her art project in less than an hour when I was in there working on one of my hours-long print runs. It took her SECONDS to care a stick figure on a lino block, and not long to do a print run of her block in black. Then on a small block she carved around a "drop" shape, rolled in lino block in red, and applied the small drop-shape on each of the black stick figure print runs, and that was that. It was a multi-color print because it was more than one. In the critique, when it was my turn to talk aobut my art, I was mostly tongue-tied, lamely explaining what I learned of the process, a belabored process that I wasn't enthusiastic to talk about, and I guess I felt the work could speak for itself and my words felt extraneous. This colleague, when it was her turn, JUMPED up on the table we all sat around, (she was a very tall woman), pointing to her work, saying, ""My print is about APARTHIED!" and dramatically explained that, and how the stick figure represented that, and red drop was blood, and how the "interaction" of red and black represented apartheid. Etc.!

    Well fine, but when I learned she got an "A" and I got a "B+", I was not happy. Blabbing about my work wasn't my strength. Maybe it was underused Ni that got me stuck. Your post made me reflect and realize that our professor was an ILI, too! So he might have just really related to everything she did. It was all the right approach in his mind.

    But I see that even though you the grasp on the conceptual, you also did not hone your skill at communicating that in critiques. I just started t a very part-time high school position and I need to teach my students critique skills. I guess I might end up being good at that, as one often teaches well what one has to work hard to accomplish.

    One way the world of training for fashion design is probably much like training for art is that the rules are hard to grasp.

    Vapidness bores me too. Talking about shopping trips and other shallow things is a yawner. Also what you said about people who "hog the spotlight when they don't deserve it" reminds me of the above story. Your reaction to the social-conscious ugly clothes and the lingerie reminded me of sometimes having very negative reactions to people's works or styles, that of course I did not speak of. Personally I like the idea of incorporating past traditions into clothing, but each artist to his own.

    I agree with you that you should be able to be a fashion designer and just design, not sew, which is a whole different set of skills. But that is what they want. I also think there are relatively very, very few fashion designers out there, and I suspect the ones who really make it big had elite connections to begin with. The want you to sew because they need sewers; that is how most of the peole work in that field, your expensive college education is unlikely to ahve you running the show someday or just designing.

    I once considered interior design, but I remember thinking I would not enjoy dealing with overseeing project construction and coordinating with contractors, electricians, painters, plumbers, etc. (Though now I think I could do that.) So I went into teaching art, but was disappointed to learn that a part of that job I did not realize about was that it is a lot about managing the masses. A lot of students and a lot of classes and a lot of supplies and a lot of projects and a lot of report cards to manage. But like anything else, it is skills, and you gain skills over time. My ILI friend who got the architecture degree must have found things he did not like about the field, too, even though he was an A student in college for it. Because he never used that degree either. He ended up going a practical route, helping his parents out and then taking over their trailers park business.
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    I quit McDonald's to work for Walmart. I quit Walmart after four years to travel with my wife in the Midwest for her work. I worked at the UPS store for one day and quit because I got a job offer for my current work.

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    Just a little more I'll quite my current one. I'm getting bored, I want to design jewelry instead. Or be a housewife, or a maid.
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