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    Quote Originally Posted by June Webb View Post
    Hello Aylin, thank you for welcoming me... hope we have some good exchange. What you said about Ni being lucky reminded me a quote I used to identify a lot with from Match Point, this Woody Allen film that says: "The man who said 'I'd rather be lucky than good, saw deeply into life". Could you describe situations were you felt this luck or this mental sense pointing you the way? Do you think that perhaps some IEIs become neurotic for not following their hunches? I think there can be a lot of pressure on IEIs in a society were frenzied profit and production are mandatory.
    When I think back on it I fall back on supernatural explanations. I think it is because some of the things I have felt lucky about were basically things that defy logic so when I try to think of one specific situation as an example right now it escapes me.

    I am still waking up though so once I had more coffee I will come back to this. There are mundane examples, lots of them, I need to think about it. I wrote to you in a stream of thought yesterday since your sentence sparked it.

    Edit: I will share things in pm since it is too easy to take my words and twist them on this forum.

    Edit 2: This is what DarkAngelFireWolf69 says of VS cognition but I believe Filatova may have said specifically that IEI are lucky too. If not her then it was Strat.

    Vortical-Synergetic Cognition

    The fourth cognitive style: it is synthetic, positive, and inductive. Its most appropriate title is Vortical-Synergetic. This form flows in Sociotypes ESE, SLI, LIE, IEI (ESFj, ISTp, ENTj, INFp, respectively)

    Synergetics—the science of how order emerges from chaos. The word 'synergy' in Ancient Greek means "concerted action". The concept of synergy continues to be discussed at present. In the West, it is called 'Chaos Theory' or 'Nonlinear Dynamics' [9]. For our purposes, it is important to note that it is characterized by so-called dissipative states—non-equilibrium, nonlinear, unstable.

    As Dynamics, Synergetics think fluidly with tints of one thought cascading into another. As Positivists, they converge towards a point of attraction. As Involutionary types, they frequently turn backwards and jump over previous levels, displacing the flow of their thoughts like a vortex or fluctuating storm.

    IEI as if in a kaleidoscope sees whimsical iridescent imagery, dissolving then receding in flux. LIE thinks very experimentally with many variants rapidly assorted and mentally tested on the fly for practical applicability. ESE initiates a social torrent leaving behind a trail of emotional turbulence. Thoughts 'swarm' and chaotically displace one another. SLI 'lies in a drift' as it were awaiting favorable wind. Once the situation becomes favorable, self-organization immediately takes hold and rapid thinking initiates, scrolling through incoming information, identifying options most and least likely to succeed.

    Intellectual Sphere

    Characteristic of a 'vortex' is its self-organizing nature, moving like a whirlwind. This manifests mentally as a rapid search for options, tests, and the subsequent screening of variants which do not yield results. It operates on basis of testing, advancing to the goal through trial and error. In a sense, it is comparable to a perpetual lab experiment in the brain.

    The first advantage of Vortical cognition—liveliness and naturalness. It seems to simulate the actual processes occurring in nature. Another advantage—faith in success and luck. Synergetics do not confuse temporary setbacks with error; they will undertake attempt after attempt until success ultimately comes to them.

    Its chief disadvantage is that the intellectual search is often blind and uneconomical. Another difficulty is its randomness and spontaneity. Synergetic intellect is a kind of chain reaction that catalyzes itself. The mechanism of positive feedback operates: if not curbed, then the concentration of effort first leads to an explosion, followed by dissipation.

    Synergetic intellect explains phenomena through substantive reasoning. The very substance (material or substrate) itself generating phenomena through natural movement. In the Aristotle example, the cause of sculpture is the block of marble from which it was made.


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    This is not beginner socionics so if you are new to it, it may be more confusing than helpful.
    Last edited by Aylen; 03-10-2019 at 05:43 PM.

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