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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post

    "All that being said, individual differences do exist and what we do in life is largely influenced by our culture and upbringing. For example, people with parents who are doctors might be encouraged to become a doctor and so, regardless of type, there is a higher chance of this person becoming a doctor."
    Hello again, Fardraft... Yes I agree there's a whole variable thing that might implicate on how the type would present itself.

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    "To accurately type someone, you have to understand the underlying motivations behind why they want what they want so as to discern the structure of their thought process, which is essentially the functions they use (and probably value) most. Of course, some people have so many behavioural indications of being one type over another, but these people tend to be rare."

    Well, the way I see this is that type seems to be blatant obvious in some people, as in you can look and see it in five minutes because they fit right in to that stereotype or type description, like an ILI friend I have. I think Quadra values could perhaps be good. But as I said previously I'm new to this. There seems to be a lot of gray areas...


    In the case of this supposedly LII friend I have, see if you can help me out, Far... he seems somewhat critical of the people he knows and has some kind of intimacy because they don't follow his ideas or his standards. Not really an intellectual guy but tries to appear-like, has single minded ideas about how the world works, etc. But has a lot of difficulty on being assertive with people he doesn't know, in simple things such as denying a beggar some money because he might look possibly threatening (even though not obviously threatening) it seems like he can only use Se in the realms he knows well, like having a discussion in the family, trying to make himself listened. He seems ambicious, like want to get money but in my POV he just wanted to have better quality of life and spend time on videogames, sweets or other self-entertaining/creative work. If he were to be an LII, we would have to assume that he is an unknowledgeable one, assuming that he only has the logical structure without being beyond average smart. Perhaps I'm wrong about his type, but all the people he admires are alpha and his personal tastes also. I used to say he liked silly things and watching videogames and cartoons were spending time, my doubt is that he seems eager to get money, but as I said I guess he seems simply as a means to an end: a luxurious life, I could be biased though. Unlike the ILI friend I have, wich he says is too serious and uncongenial, he kind of understands or at least has some conscious of how the dynamics of a social atmosphere might work, even though not knowing how to contribute to it. While as my certain ILI friend talks about topics wich can cause some distress (not as an LIE) without paying attention to the current topics people are "vibing" on, such as talking about politics or a book he was reading with me without paying attention to the other topic people seemed more excited towards wich was south park or whatever.


    What are your doubts on your type?

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    "My understanding of most types is relatively limited given that I've the last year or so of my time trying to determine whether I'm an LII or ILI."
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    "At the surface level, I would expect IEIs to be more irrational with respect to the future since they unvalue Te i.e. they don't care about practical affairs enough to look for profitable opportunities. They are also positivists, which means that they look for things that could be rather than things that are missing. Since they are already so attuned with dreams, this positivism can "trance" them into a world of their own, completely disconnected from reality."
    What are your doubts on your type? Perhaps I could help it sort it out. I consider myself an IEI and I can identify with what you are saying. What is exactly being a Positivist? I'm mostly pessimistic, is that a score against IEI?


    This is some very good literature you posted. Some points I have that I think don't match with IEI is: I don't see myself as a person with strong Fe, because I'm not a gregarious person, I can be like that some times but is very situational and I have to make an effort. Te thing I think it matches perfectly. I'm mostly helpless on daily, procedural, monetary affairs.
    Last edited by June Webb; 03-09-2019 at 08:09 PM. Reason: Improvement

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