Quote Originally Posted by June Webb View Post
"He is not likely to keep especially careful track of his finances, avoiding this by keeping his needs simple and constant.""'I'm not sure where I suggested we should look at this through a social justice perspective."
Sorry, @FarDraft I deleted my post (and a part of the one you replied) because I tought it could be misunderstood. I didn't actually imply you meant that, if it sounded as it were, it's perhaps because I'm not a native english speaker so forgive me if I sound unreasonable sometimes.

Hmm... this is a very good description. Would you say that an LII could have "getting rich" as a goal? The person I referred would like to.

"LIIs may instead have generalized goals with no specific timeframe in mind (unvalued Ni)."

How would you say IEIs are in this question, do they plan forward or simply "irrationally" envision a future?


I know you addressed this to someone else but I will give my thoughts on it anyway. I believe Ni leads are capable of subconsciously being opportunistic. Not so much conscious planning going on when younger but being able to choose the right path/opportunity at the right time as they filter out the less probable paths to succeeding. It doesn't have to be financial specifically. It could be anything. I am not saying this in the diabolical sense although that can be true too.

I have seen it written that IEI are a "lucky" type. Rather than luck I think it is subconscious skill. At some point, as they start to mature, the skills they have will be noticed by them and then consciously manipulated (again not in a bad sense) to their advantage. This manipulation is in the forum of Fe for IEI and Te for ILI. The subconscious Se for both also comes into play. I am not sure how it would work for an LII.

This is what came to me while reading your last sentence so take with a grain of salt. I have always considered myself a charmed, lucky or fated person. Things tend to go my way. It is not easy to let go of that idea...

For many years I didn't think too much about my own abilities in this area. Giving credit to something beyond me. If anything socionics has given me a different framework to think about all this. This luck didn't just fall in my lap. I can see that in hindsight. Even as a child I was making choices that would get me where I wanted to be. I had a vision, yes, but not a solid one. This is really hard to explain. Anyway I do think it is possible for an LII or any type to have of goal of getting rich. Their motivations for getting rich would be more telling than the goal itself.

Oops I forgot. Welcome June.