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    Quote Originally Posted by Lord Pixel View Post
    Like let's say you are working on a project, completely by yourself. LSE comes over and sees your project and offers up suggestions. What happens when you don't take their suggestions? And some can be forceful with their suggestions.
    you say "yes I get what you're saying but I want to try it like this."
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    you say "yes I get what you're saying but I want to try it like this."
    Yes, well that much is obvious, but it doesn't work.

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    Will return to this thread.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Yes I understand what you are saying and yes I have seen this tendency with ESEs. No, the person in mind is clearly, without a doubt not a ESE. There is no Fe. Although he is expressive, he is as dry as a box of cereal and I would find the choice of career, a professional tree faller and life long hand faller, as something a strong Fe type would not choose to do. Not for this reason alone do I not type him ESE.

    Boundaries isn't enterilly the issue, its more about controlling the moment by moment events in an effort to reach out and make it easier for me, which I can see is something he does for people in general, but came up to a person who doesn't require it. Things have improved, talking about it here helped and also just accepting it on my end also helped. Now that we are more comfortable around each other I will be able to take total control of my own tasks without causing any "toes being stepped on".

    Caregivers are somewhat all dense in this sense to varying degrees.
    I was also going to say, This person sounds like an ESE, not an LSE, simply because what you describe is so exactly how my ESE mother-in-law treats me!!! I HATE IT. If I had to share a room with her Iíd tear my hair out. She also loves to smoke pot. The similarities are weird. But then you say no chance of being ESE... I wish I knew what to suggest with an Si creative who is controlling/caregiving in this way but nothing Iíve tried with my MIL has ever worked....

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    Already late for work-> needs to get speciel oil from shell ONLY.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Already late for work-> needs to get speciel oil from shell ONLY.
    Lol
    Donít worry just provide support and let them do as they want. Say ďhahahaĒ
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    This seems like a pretty straightforward problem- just tell him. I donít think itís really going to offend him if you say it tactfully, and if it does, well, thatís on him.

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    Will return to this thread like I said. Long story short: not my dual. If I type in here I might fall into a negative state of mind and I have to pick my battles for a temp amount of time.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Will return to this thread like I said. Long story short: not my dual. If I type in here I might fall into a negative state of mind and I have to pick my battles for a temp amount of time.
    Yes lol he doesnít sound like your dual
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    Dual type (as per tcaudilllg)
    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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