Robert Downey Jr
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Nick Heyward of Haircut 100
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Some examples of famous/celebrity EIEs-ENFJs
Robert Downey Jr
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Nick Heyward of Haircut 100
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Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Robert Sheehan
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2RHddOmFXO8" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
Russell Brand
<a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cZCEVd1r-bU" target="_blank" rel="nofollow">
Emilia Clarke
Originally Posted by Yesein
yeah, I agree Russel Brand is EIE..
The other two - you reckon they'd be IEE?
I don't know enough about them to be able to tell.
Megan Kelly
Definite ENFJ
Teresa Palmer
Dakota Fanning
Charisma Carpenter
Jordana Brewster
Damiano David, the leader of Måneskin.
EII-Fi
2w3 sx/so
tritype: 2-6-9
Lady Gaga and Kanye West come on top of my head (Although I am not sure about 'ye yet, have just seen some of his interviews and listened to My Beautiful Dark Twisted Fantasy)
Did you know that there's a tunnel under Ocean Bvd?Personal Website: https://sites.google.com/view/the-qams-diaries/the-qams-diaries
Qveen Herby
She's so cute
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Petter Stordalen
He reminds me a lot of myself, I hope to look as good as he does at his age.
The Barnum or Forer effect is the tendency for people to judge that general, universally valid statements about personality are actually specific descriptions of their own personalities. A "universally valid" statement is one that is true of everyone—or, more likely, nearly everyone. It is not known why people tend to make such misjudgments, but the effect has been experimentally reproduced.
The psychologist Paul Meehl named this fallacy "the P.T. Barnum effect" because Barnum built his circus and dime museum on the principle of having something for everyone. It is also called "the Forer effect" after its discoverer, the psychologist Bertram R. Forer, who modestly dubbed it "the fallacy of personal validation".
Emilia maybe IEI-Fe.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
yes
Downey Jr. is Fi PoLR and Russel is IEE. Anyhow, Damiano David is indeed EIE. Emilia Clark could be EIE but if so, she'd be EIE-Fe. She's so annoyingly Fe base that it's hard to distinguish her auxiliary fxn well.
I AM YOUR HOLY TOTEM
I AM YOUR SICK TABOO
RADICAL AND RADIANT
I'M YOUR NIGHTMARE COMING TRUE
I AM YOUR WORST ENEMY
I AM YOUR DEAREST FRIEND
MALIGNANTLY MALEVOLENT
I AM OF DIVINE DESCENT
I AM YOUR UNCONSCIOUSNESS
I AM UNRESTRAINED EXCESS
METAMORPHIC RESTLESSNESS
I'M YOUR UNEXPECTEDNESS
I AM YOUR APOCALYPSESTRAY BULLET
I AM YOUR BELIEF UNWROUGHT
MONOLITHIC JUGGERNAUT
FROM THE HEAVENS ABOVE
STRAY BULLET
READY OR NOT
I'M THE ILLEGITIMATE SON OF GOD
EIE-Fe are more about control really, not what we see in videos with Clark. I think her expressions, which appear 'loud' on her face, are actually signs of Creative ethics (as is the case with Creative F types as per what’s been written about them) and in pictures with no makeup she looks Ni lead. Most importantly, it's my experience that when you get closer to women like her you notice Ni is their first function.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
Robert Sheehan looks like an IxE probably ILE
Russel Brand is pure gamma energy can’t tell if he’s SEE or LIE though. His interviewers don’t like Se and one of the was basically shivering at the end of the interview -reminds me of some of my interactions with alphas and deltas. sx/so adds to that intensity.
Emilia Clarke is an IEE. She’s lacks the serious energy of an Se type and is too spontaneous to be ESE.
ترفرف كالأجنحة غير المنظورة حول رأسي
Diving deep into infinite waters Ralph is EIE
ترفرف كالأجنحة غير المنظورة حول رأسي
Russell Brand is EIE-C
Emilia Clarke looks more ESE or IEE to me. Lacks the ideal ethics of EIE (Fe-Ni) and a Si PolR (She doesn't seem a drama "queen", she is really chill). A suggestive Si is possible.
David Alaba of Real Madrid and Bayern Munich could be enfj. He’s seals the family charm with a glow and activism that perfects the golden globe of numbers made individualized.
Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ A fair face may fade, but a beautiful soul lasts forever. Lucky Numbers - 53, 10, 29, 14, 1, 21
Mr. Mime = Mastermind
Marius Florin aka LeoSuperCluster as Raging Bolt the Raikou number 1021 and SolitaryWalker brought glory to the years of Silver and forged Pichu, wisdom of force and flair to exhibit dinosaur questing pointers electrocuting cinema and blueprints of emporiums to undertow flows jungle tossing galaxy spanning shivers of essence gems and portals of roads to destruction and arboretums folding castles and swordsmanship of dreams and counters to pleasant vibrations and holy water sprouting evanescent stars and puzzles of grades to saffron climax
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...k-2024-edition
All the EIE-Fe I know in real life have a face extremely similiar to an important EIE-Fe actor and director of the italian TV.
Carlo Verdone tends to include in his films characters inspired by people he met in everyday life and whom he considered "absurd". He frequently helped strangers, drawing lessons and ideas for his films.
His skill with people and artistic tendencies made me think more of a Fe subtype.
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Almost all of the people mentioned in this thread are not EIEs. How did you guys learn Socionics? I'm gonna post some EIEs below and describe some of their patterns.
Some ENFjs have stronger Se, others a weaker one. It varies from subtypes and other factors: temperament, etc. But all of them, or almost all of them, have the same pattern: an aristocratic, noble, arrogant, distant, misterious, sometimes mystic appearance. In some cases their eyes are colder, in other cases, soft and inviting, but they always have a slight feminine, soft energy about them. They look kinda Introverted sometimes, verging towards an IEI look, since their energy is so distant and abstract, but you can still notice the tension and aggression which is absent in IEIs. ENFjs express a big Ego and of someone who is beyond the mundane world. But at the same time, vulnerable. So, it's just an outward look. Deep inside they're sensitive and romantic. It's just an outward false over-projection of strenght (Se), which often translates into arrogance and a noble look. EIEs also tend to have very proportional, beautiful faces. A lot of famous male singers are EIEs. I'll post a few of them. Women of this type are very rare, at least famous ones. Another hypothesis is they are difficult to detect, because they may seem so "play-acting" (The Actor), and look like other types, but my theory is they're just rare.
Mads Mikkesen
Bon Jovi
Bono Vox
Axl Rose
Lord Byron (Poet)
Barack Obama
Matthew McCounaghey
Joaquin Phoenix
Margot Robbie
Billie Ellish
Madonna
I tried to find female EIEs everywhere: actresses, singers, and only found these 3 clear ones. Maybe EIE females are in other careers, such as humanities, journalism. The few I've met in real life worked in those areas. But as I said, my theory is EIE women is a rare type, in terms of genetic creation in nature. EIE men, for some weird reason, are way more common to find.
Cornelis Vreeswijk, Swedish artist, seems EIE-C.
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
Suzie Plakson
@Dionysius The Return
Mads Mikkelsen is an introvert
Margot Robbie is ILE
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I think Brian Molko from Placebo might be EIE-CH with an E4 flavor.
Timur whatshisname made a longish video about him and concluded ESI was his type. I'm not saying correct or not but interesting nonetheless.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
No, both very clear EIEs. Mads, Ethical subtype, more rigid and guarded, stronger Se. Margot, Intuitive subtype, more expressive and original, weaker Se. Study Meged's descriptions.
A Case Study of why ENFj women are so difficult to detect, and a solution
If EIE women are rare in fact, or just very difficult to spot, I don't know. The latter is very possible. EIEs "look like other types" - just look at the ones I posted. Most are mistyped as other types in Socionics. EIEs are "The Actors", they can look like anything they want. This ENFj type tends towards a dissociation of personality, meaning, they project multiple energetic patterns, not easily detectable. I've only been able to grasp the male patterns with expertize. The females might be more difficult. It seems EIE is a type which verges towards looking cold, and in some cases introverted, so, probably a lot of the EIE women look like they're ENTxs, ESI, EII, IEI, etc.
Cate Blanchett
She is "spaced-out", meaning, she is intuitive. She is also proud, kinda tense, rigid, and projecting a bit of power, which are likely signs of Se and Rationality. So, she seems Ni Creative. I don't think she is assertive as an LIE, so, she seems a sensitive EIE with a Te Role, kind of cold-professional social image she tries to project.
Princess Diana
Another likely EIE who looks verging towards another type, in this case, ESI: introspective and timid, Rational, kinda rigid, but you can still see, with a very attentive perception, that there is some vulnerability and weak aggression of Beta NF instead of Se Ego. The Fe is only more clearly visible in other pictures such as the latter, but in most of her pictures she looks quite restrained and introverted, verging towards ESI.
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I think that Martin Luther King JR was an ENFJ, very persuasive and uniting and bridging of alliances and parties to realign with true north ideals and potions of gravitating to the same heavenly sphere.
Chinese Fortune Cookie ~ A fair face may fade, but a beautiful soul lasts forever. Lucky Numbers - 53, 10, 29, 14, 1, 21
Mr. Mime = Mastermind
Marius Florin aka LeoSuperCluster as Raging Bolt the Raikou number 1021 and SolitaryWalker brought glory to the years of Silver and forged Pichu, wisdom of force and flair to exhibit dinosaur questing pointers electrocuting cinema and blueprints of emporiums to undertow flows jungle tossing galaxy spanning shivers of essence gems and portals of roads to destruction and arboretums folding castles and swordsmanship of dreams and counters to pleasant vibrations and holy water sprouting evanescent stars and puzzles of grades to saffron climax
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...k-2024-edition
Taylor Swift
Bella Thorne
Caroline Konstnar
https://linktr.ee/tehhnicus
Jesus is King stops black magic and closes portals
self diagnosed ASD, ADHD, schizotypal/affective
Your face makes your brain and sociotype – how muscle use shapes personality
I want to care
if I was better I’d help you
if I was better you’d be better
Human Design 2/4 projector life path 1
Bella Thorne is a logical type, maybe ILE?
Caroline Konstnar maybe the same, also seems logical
EIE are not so scarce of emotion as these people
Taylor Swift and those girls are not EIEs, they're all cold and not very expressive. Taylor and the last one are introverts and the one in the middle looks like an Fi type, IEE to be specific. The last one is IEI. Taylor, very cold eyes and energy, LSI.
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Another EIE. Mark Hamill, more known as Luke Skywalker.
>interacts constantly with her gigantic fanbase
>people think introverted logical types with 1D Fe do that
Geez Taylor Swift is the archetype of Fe base. Overdramatic, expressive EIE. Most examples in this thread are IEI though.
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
If you really counted posting on Twitter as social interaction, you'd type everyone here as an extravert instead of IEI.
Twitter is filled with beta NF social justice warriors that live in their own bubble. Life is perceived through imagination, real world interactions barely exist. Since everyone who doesn't know socionics thinks their perception of the world must be shared by everyone the people on that plattform think twitter is a dominant voice but in reality sensing types don't give a shit. Internet culture is intuitive
Fi types are not cold and ''not very expressive'', not even to Fe types
Dwight Schultz
Jacksepticeye
Got ENFJ at 16personalities. It's either that or IEI, but EIE makes a decent amount of sense
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
It's tough to reply to someone who isn't capable of interpreting sentences. My quote was "Taylor Swift and those girls are not EIEs, they're all cold and not very expressive."
So, I have not said Fi types are "cold and not expressive". I meant the mentioned 3 girls are cold and not expressive enough to be EIEs. Taylor Swift is LSI, the last girl is IEI, and the middle one is IEE. Yes, IEEs can be pretty expressive, but even then, there's some Fi restraint to their emotional expression, compared to an EIE. Yes, compared to an EIE, they will not be as expressive.
In a nutshell: the classification of not cold and expressive is an attribute of EIE, and not that "being cold and not expressive" is an attribute of Fi. That's basic logic which you distorted.
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