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    Trump has been in office quite a while, but still, I think I know the explanation for the rise of Trumpism: the dumbing down of American universities. Since everyone and their dog now gets a university degree "to survive in the economy," universities have nothing to do with the development of intellect any more. So now there are very few smart people, and evil smart people like Trump (let's just call a spade a spade, OK?) lead around all the stupid people into doing their biddings. Evil thriving when everyone becomes stupid seems like a good explanation for Nazi Germany too, but doesn't mean we have to compare Trump's government to ****** to validate criticism of it. Isn't the fact that he pretty much looks and acts like a Disney villain enough to really, seriously criticize him on?

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    Trumpism is just a natural reaction or rebellion from the masses to globalism, neo-marxism and post modernism.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Trumpism is just a natural reaction or rebellion from the masses to globalism, neo-marxism and post modernism.
    Eggzacly

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    If you want to criticize Trump, criticize him for being a zionist agent.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Raver View Post
    Trumpism is just a natural reaction or rebellion from the masses to globalism, neo-marxism and post modernism.
    Yes, that is true, but it's a bad reaction because it's anti-intellectual at its core.

    Just because the thing(s) being reacted against, in this case political correctness and post modernism are bad, doesn't make the reaction against those things automatically good.

    Lots of people talk like Trump is somehow good simply because he opposes political correctness, well the sickness can kill you, but so can the antidote...better to find a better, safer antidote...

    On a side note, I don't think globalism (another thing you mention people rebelling against) is that bad. Being open towards the outside world is better than being closed off to it. It does have some negative consequences for some, yes, like the movement of capital leaving some areas penniless and the outsourcing of cheap labor but I think the consequences of rolling back free trade would leave people worse off. Countries should be able to control their borders, if only for the safety of their own citizens. I am mostly pro immigration but I do think government should be able to make harsh decisions if they have to, to protect their citizens. I do think that racialist theories about whites being replaced are bullshit though. It seems to me that international organzations iike the EU and the UN consist of career politicians oneupping each other, too, which is why any opposition to them labels you a heretic of sorts. You gotta be polished and right-thinking.
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    There are some in this thread whose mothers’ (in utero) should’ve belly flopped down 249 flights of stairs, and spared us the subsequent social and intellectual drain. Unapologetically, I take a hostile stance to certain views–to those not directly/immediately affected by hatemongering idiocy masquerading as accuracy, it’s easier to hold a more dispassionate point of view–but my “interest groups” aren’t afforded that luxury because much of these views encompass an existential assault and not the imagined kind by those perpetuating the notion of some “white genocide.” And so I give subzero fucks about any bigots and their sympathizers whom I might offend.

    But you, unlike the rest, don’t necessarily strike me as a completely hardened piece of fecal waste; I think that some of your thoughts and conclusions lack a certain rigor, but that can be remedied if you have the will–if not, off to the heap with you as well. But I say this to say the only reason why I’m critiquing your comment and not any of the others (that hardly amount to anything but compacted hot air and flatulence) is because you don’t seem morally submerged. For the sake of transparency, I'm approximately 3/4 ethnic Scandinavian (with a European passport) and the rest a mishmash of colonized "others," but I'm particularly interested in those who speak on affairs concerning "my people" and what's happening within our borders.

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    Clustering groups of different ethnicities together won't work because human nature is naturally tribal like our ancestors from thousands of years ago. This won't be undone because of forced social policies.
    So then how do the vast majority of the 87 European ethnicities, for example, live side by side in relative harmony and not routinely slaughter and murder each other? Granted, prior to WWII and in a few blips on the radar since then, that certainly wasn't the case. But for the most part, since WWII and particularly in Western Europe, the various ethnicities, while still having stark socio-cultural-political differences in some cases (Scandinavia vs the Mediterranean), all live in relative stability with each other. If what you say is true, that "clustering groups of different ethnicities together won't work," how is this currently possible?

    Would love to read your answer to that.

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    I am fine with Europe receiving actual refugees from Syria, but they are merely a small fraction of actual migrants to Europe. The vast majority are economic migrants from Africa and the middle east. They are not fleeing war, but rather poverty.
    According to the latest and most up to date empirical data (If you'd care to see, I have the research to post), the fact of the matter is that a third of income inequality in the world today can be explained by the diversified impact of European colonialism on different societies, especially on the continent of Africa, where much of its economic growth was substantially smothered and stifled by way of removing opportunities for the vast majority of its population. Were there some benefits to colonialism? Yes, but the cons far outweigh the pros (e.g., by splitting ethnicities across countries, the colonial border design has systematically spurred political violence, unrest, and instability). That being the case, why should it be unreasonable and unacceptable for Africans to try and better their lot, particularly in the lands that reaped the most benefit from their disenfranchisement? Would that not, at the very least, amount to some degree of fairness? Or is that not a concern of yours?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    There are some in this thread whose mothers’ (in utero) should’ve belly flopped down 249 flights of stairs, and spared us the subsequent social and intellectual drain. Unapologetically, I take a hostile stance to certain views–to those not directly/immediately affected by hatemongering idiocy masquerading as accuracy, it’s easier to hold a more dispassionate point of view–but my “interest groups” aren’t afforded that luxury because much of these views encompass an existential assault and not the imagined kind by those perpetuating the notion of some “white genocide.” And so I give subzero fucks about any bigots and their sympathizers whom I might offend.

    But you, unlike the rest, don’t necessarily strike me as a completely hardened piece of fecal waste; I think that some of your thoughts and conclusions lack a certain rigor, but that can be remedied if you have the will–if not, off to the heap with you as well. But I say this to say the only reason why I’m critiquing your comment and not any of the others (that hardly amount to anything but compacted hot air and flatulence) is because you don’t seem morally submerged. For the sake of transparency, I'm approximately 3/4 ethnic Scandinavian (with a European passport) and the rest a mishmash of colonized "others," but I'm particularly interested in those who speak on affairs concerning "my people" and what's happening within our borders.



    So then how do the vast majority of the 87 European ethnicities, for example, live side by side in relative harmony and not routinely slaughter and murder each other? Granted, prior to WWII and in a few blips on the radar since then, that certainly wasn't the case. But for the most part, since WWII and particularly in Western Europe, the various ethnicities, while still having stark socio-cultural-political differences in some cases (Scandinavia vs the Mediterranean), all live in relative stability with each other. If what you say is true, that "clustering groups of different ethnicities together won't work," how is this currently possible?

    Would love to read your answer to that.



    According to the latest and most up to date empirical data (If you'd care to see, I have the research to post), the fact of the matter is that a third of income inequality in the world today can be explained by the diversified impact of European colonialism on different societies, especially on the continent of Africa, where much of its economic growth was substantially smothered and stifled by way of removing opportunities for the vast majority of its population. Were there some benefits to colonialism? Yes, but the cons far outweigh the pros (e.g., by splitting ethnicities across countries, the colonial border design has systematically spurred political violence, unrest, and instability). That being the case, why should it be unreasonable and unacceptable for Africans to try and better their lot, particularly in the lands that reaped the most benefit from their disenfranchisement? Would that not, at the very least, amount to some degree of fairness? Or is that not a concern of yours?
    Take a chill pill


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    Quote Originally Posted by Cybernetic View Post
    Take a chill pill

    Sure, while you help yourself to a glass or 2 or 3 of that, my treat...


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    Please take a history lesson. One can't explain complex phenomena by insisting that people are/were stupid. Things aren't that easy.

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    Universities came from the clergy, not proper science. Nothing there outside of stem had any merit to begin with. It's always been secular priests in wizard-hats of authority jerking each other off with concepts that have fuck-all application to reality or even meaningful epistemology to begin with, and so nothing of value is ever produced, and hardly anything produced at all but thirty-page-long paragraph-ciphers about postmodernism.


    If tax dollars are gonna be sucked off everyone's backs to pay for basic schools, it's a bare minimum that graduation from them makes you employable at least on the minimum wage, which means skills for these jobs need to be constantly taught and updated. No country should have to tolerate the emloyability bar rising this quickly when so much of the population needs jobs now more than anything.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Universities came from the clergy, not proper science. Nothing there outside of stem had any merit to begin with. It's always been secular priests in wizard-hats of authority jerking each other off with concepts that have fuck-all application to reality or even meaningful epistemology to begin with, and so nothing of value is ever produced, and hardly anything produced at all but thirty-page-long paragraph-ciphers about postmodernism.


    If tax dollars are gonna be sucked off everyone's backs to pay for basic schools, it's a bare minimum that graduation from them makes you employable at least on the minimum wage, which means skills for these jobs need to be constantly taught and updated. No country should have to tolerate the emloyability bar rising this quickly when so much of the population needs jobs now more than anything.
    STEM in university is nonsense though. Universities are for professional training and that's all. Some STEM fields are professional training, but if you just want to be, say, a mathematician, you're probably better off teaching yourself since amateur mathematicians are fairly common, and if you're going into some dirty field like applied mathematics or experimental physics you should probably stay away from universities unless you need expensive equipment and that's the only way to get it since it's only sexy to be a theoretician nowadays. Also, poststructuralism is a pretty valid school of thought even though I have no idea how exactly you get from the epistemological work of Derrida and Foucault to "I choose my choice and you choose your choice" except through some sort of dishonesty. There's no such thing as postmodernity and I wish people would stop making up time periods just to get money. Historical periods do exist, they're just marked by obvious events and with postmodernism there are none except maybe "...And then we all became consumerist and happy. The end."

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    "People with X political opinions are just dumb."

    Top-tier analysis.
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    Christopher Langan is a Trump supporter. So even intelligent people are prone to making poor decisions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    Trump has been in office quite a while, but still, I think I know the explanation for the rise of Trumpism: the dumbing down of American universities. Since everyone and their dog now gets a university degree "to survive in the economy," universities have nothing to do with the development of intellect any more. So now there are very few smart people, and evil smart people like Trump (let's just call a spade a spade, OK?) lead around all the stupid people into doing their biddings. Evil thriving when everyone becomes stupid seems like a good explanation for Nazi Germany too, but doesn't mean we have to compare Trump's government to ****** to validate criticism of it. Isn't the fact that he pretty much looks and acts like a Disney villain enough to really, seriously criticize him on?
    uh, no

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    If only Trump was literally ******.

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    There is an overweight guy in North Korea who ranks higher on the ****** scale than D. Trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    There is an overweight guy in North Korea who ranks higher on the ****** scale than D. Trump.
    At first I thought you said the Richter scale

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    Trump was a horrible human being before he got into office and he's a horrible human being now that he's President. I'm saying that he's as bad as ******, not that capitalism is militarism. Militarism isn't pure evil and capitalism isn't pure evil (I'd say they aren't evil at all but that just begs a long discussion on what evil is.) Just because all people can imagine is pure evil is militarism doesn't mean your mind should fill in the blanks with good when an evil capitalist rules the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody always goes back to look at what ****** said to see why he was evil, as if evil people didn't just lie all the time and flip-flop around. Now that Trump does that people excuse him as being just really Trumpy... good grief!

    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    Christopher Langan is a Trump supporter. So even intelligent people are prone to making poor decisions.
    Trump's probably more intelligent, just saying. Comedians are really intelligent and they aren't smart enough to avoid making stupid jokes about him all the time and ruining their shows (probably because the networks are sitting there with $$$ like "Trump jokes sell!.") This is the difference between evil capitalism and evil militarism.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    Trump was a horrible human being before he got into office and he's a horrible human being now that he's President. I'm saying that he's as bad as ******, not that capitalism is militarism. Militarism isn't pure evil and capitalism isn't pure evil (I'd say they aren't evil at all but that just begs a long discussion on what evil is.) Just because all people can imagine is pure evil is militarism doesn't mean your mind should fill in the blanks with good when an evil capitalist rules the most powerful nation in the world. Everybody always goes back to look at what ****** said to see why he was evil, as if evil people didn't just lie all the time and flip-flop around. Now that Trump does that people excuse him as being just really Trumpy... good grief!



    Trump's probably more intelligent, just saying. Comedians are really intelligent and they aren't smart enough to avoid making stupid jokes about him all the time and ruining their shows (probably because the networks are sitting there with $$$ like "Trump jokes sell!.") This is the difference between evil capitalism and evil militarism.
    Trump may be a lot more intelligent than people give him credit, but I doubt his IQ is nearly as high as Langan's.

    I think the best comedians tend to attack or question ideologies and bad ideas rather than specific individuals (think Carlin). That's the difference between great comedians and your average late night talk show varieties who thrive on ridiculing very specific people and very current topics. With the latter, their comedy is almost immediately dated and often seems less genuine and replete with "cheap shot" jokes.
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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    as bad as ******
    no u

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    I'm saying that he's as bad as ******
    So are you saying ****** wasn't that bad? Because if not, this has to be a close competitor for the dumbest thing you've said on this site. It might just edge out your whole line about "the rejection of good things in the world is basically anti-Semitic" in the shoutbox.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Oppai Anschluss View Post
    So are you saying ****** wasn't that bad? Because if not, this has to be a close competitor for the dumbest thing you've said on this site. It might just edge out your whole line about "the rejection of good things in the world is basically anti-Semitic" in the shoutbox.
    OP is radiating the stench of a liberal bourgeois.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    OP is radiating the stench of a liberal bourgeois.
    It smells like matzo and gefilte fish.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Muddy View Post
    OP is radiating the stench of a liberal bourgeois.
    More like regurgitating it. Lack of original thought is the real crime here.

    I read this on a totally real news site. Trump's wall money is actually being used to fund secret concentration camps where he's going to gas 6 million <<insert minority group of your choice here>>. He's also going to do it himself, like he's going to do it all single handedly, just like ****** who totally did not have the support of other Nazis. Oh either that, or all Trump supporters are also as bad as ****** in which case you all should be dead by now.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    More like regurgitating it. Lack of original thought is the real crime here.

    I read this on a totally real news site. Trump's wall money is actually being used to fund secret concentration camps where he's going to gas 6 million <<insert minority group of your choice here>>. He's also going to do it himself, like he's going to do it all single handedly, just like ****** who totally did not have the support of other Nazis. Oh either that, or all Trump supporters are also as bad as ****** in which case you all should be dead by now.

    Pano Lou with the woke-est and hottest of woke hot takes. Stop playing footsy with Chomsky and get on her level, coeruleum
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    Quote Originally Posted by Pano Lou View Post
    More like regurgitating it. Lack of original thought is the real crime here.

    I read this on a totally real news site. Trump's wall money is actually being used to fund secret concentration camps where he's going to gas 6 million <<insert minority group of your choice here>>. He's also going to do it himself, like he's going to do it all single handedly, just like ****** who totally did not have the support of other Nazis. Oh either that, or all Trump supporters are also as bad as ****** in which case you all should be dead by now.
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    Comparing a self-made but possibly psychologically damaged veteran and a fat potty-trained sperg who was spoon-fed everything and crashed most of the ventures he started only to hold onto the wealth he inherited and make a name for himself on dumb confidence alone doesn't work.
    Neither does the academically correct definition of "evil," since there is political bias baked into it. I don't think evil is all that meaningful in a historical context unless the intent is to make enemies, real fast. The use of the term implies moral urgency, which is the key ingredient to manufacturing outrage.

    And if you want to see human nature shine, get the masses outraged. Because the abuses they are capable of in that state will make you cringe from the bottom of Cocytus for ever wasting the gravity of the word "evil" on any little leader from your textbook.

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    People vote for douchebags when times get hard.

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    There's also evil stupid people like OP. But obviously that is not the case here, since you are the good guy right?

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    Isn't the fact that he pretty much looks and acts like a Disney villain enough to really, seriously criticize him on?
    Short answer: No.

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    Anti-semitic comments. Lovely.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    Anti-semitic comments. Lovely.
    Okeeday. I'll be sure to keep tabs on how anti-Caucasoid or anti-Bantu you are next time you make an offhand comment suggesting that whites or blacks exist in any capacity.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Okeeday. I'll be sure to keep tabs on how anti-Caucasoid or anti-Bantu you are next time you make an offhand comment suggesting that whites or blacks exist in any capacity.
    false equivalence

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    Quote Originally Posted by Doctor Weird View Post
    false equivalence
    Yeah, how dare peasant races falsely equate themselves with the chosen people.


    No group should be shielded from criticism if it's necessary. Especially not a disproportionately large shield for people that barely exist in any real mass to merit it.

    But at the very least, if you equate acknowledgement of a group's existence with genocide, it looks hyper sketchy. Either everyone gets equal treatment or no one does.



    If anyone could prove most of these accusations pointing the finger at jews didn't really point to jews in the first place, I could see a case for derogatory slander, but the stats seem to indicate the opposite. I don't like group responsibility at all, but it's not like anyone applies the same special shield to, say, whites, when """"woke"""" academics and comedians point the fat finger at them for even having a culture and existing at all. We don't have the words "anti-Caucasoid" or "anti-Bantu" for ethnic animosity against these groups, so why do ashkenazi jews get a special one? You have to admit that's superfluous -- and/or ideologically loaded.
    I'd rather we just see each other atomistically as well, but your team is failing at this. You're applying shields from criticism asymmetrically.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Grendel View Post
    Yeah, how dare peasant races falsely equate themselves with the chosen people.
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    No group should be shielded from criticism if it's necessary. Especially not a disproportionately large shield for people that barely exist in any real mass to merit it.

    But at the very least, if you equate acknowledgement of a group's
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    If anyone could prove most of these accusations pointing the finger at jews didn't really point to jews in the first place, I could see a case for derogatory slander, but the stats seem to indicate the opposite. I don't like group responsibility at all, but it's not like anyone applies the same special shield to, say, whites, when """"woke"""" academics and comedians point the fat finger at them for even having a culture and existing at all. We don't have the words "anti-Caucasoid" or "anti-Bantu" for ethnic animosity against these groups, so why do ashkenazi jews get a special one? You have to admit that's superfluous -- and/or ideologically loaded.
    I'd rather we just see each other atomistically as well, but your team is failing at this. You're applying shields from criticism asymmetrically.


    I take just as much issue with racism directed toward whites as I do with that directed at Ashkenazis and other groups.

    You won't get any objection from me that anti-white sentiment is a real and growing problem that is tolerated and even encouraged by far too many supposedly "enlightened" individuals. For instance, the left's tendency to quickly dismiss any reports or allegations of discrimination and genocide directed at white south African farmers as far right propaganda.

    That doesn't excuse slurs made at Jewish people about matzo and gefilte fish or whatever was said above.
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    @coeruleum hey it looks like you need a friend so I'm jsut gonna say that somewhere, deep down inside, you are probably a beautiful human being. i hope you can get some therapy or counseling that will help you guide yourself through all the trials and tribulations that life throws at you. nobody knows the cross you bear better than yourself, so please don't take this as condescending or me trying to troll. everyone deserves to be happy and feel self-fulfilled, and i'm sorry you can't find that here, but keep trying. i'm too lazy to google image search right now so just pretend this sentence is a jpg of that motivational poster with the little kitten clinging to a branch by a single paw with the caption "hang in there!"

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    Trump has been in office quite a while, but still, I think I know the explanation for the rise of Trumpism: the dumbing down of American universities. Since everyone and their dog now gets a university degree "to survive in the economy," universities have nothing to do with the development of intellect any more. So now there are very few smart people, and evil smart people like Trump (let's just call a spade a spade, OK?) lead around all the stupid people into doing their biddings. Evil thriving when everyone becomes stupid seems like a good explanation for Nazi Germany too, but doesn't mean we have to compare Trump's government to ****** to validate criticism of it. Isn't the fact that he pretty much looks and acts like a Disney villain enough to really, seriously criticize him on?
    I don't know about the trends of what universities generally focus on, but it's certainly not true that there is a lower amount of interest in intellectual fields from average people (in first world countries, since most third world countries didn't have any interest to begin with). If you look up VSauce videos, historical breakdowns, philosophical audiobooks, etc. on YouTube a lot of this stuff amasses millions and millions of views. Average people now are a lot more aware of intellectual fields than they were 50 years ago and this is more dependent on accessibility to material rather than universities educating people. Being a "nerd" is normal now even for teenagers who have no clue what university they'll go to yet.
    Yes, it is true that average people are getting stupider in first world countries since lower IQ people (Mestizos, Arabs, Africans, etc.) have rapidly increasing numbers, but the vast majority vote for leftist candidates, so the dumbing down of society actually hurts right-leaning politicians. Yes, evil will thrive once the low IQ demographics expand their ghettos of violence and ginormous impulsivity to the point where Western civilization just gets chucked off a cliff. But this will not be seen in the form of authoritarianism, but rather of the anarchy you see in their ethnic homelands whose cultures they are still loyal towards.
    I think that your pop culture reference really dragged down the intellectual level of your writing at the end. It's funny how you complain about people not being intellectual enough when you compare Trump to...a Disney villain. It really sets you on the same level as those fat ugly people marching with Darth Vader and Voldemort signs. Trying to compare America now to Germany then with such a simple, ignorant generalization makes it even worse. If you complain about lack of intellectualism in the world and don't even try to be intellectual yourself, then it must not actually matter to you that much and I have a hunch that you are just writing this to reverberate some article you read online.
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    Quote Originally Posted by prowthin View Post
    I don't know about the trends of what universities generally focus on, but it's certainly not true that there is a lower amount of interest in intellectual fields from average people (in first world countries, since most third world countries didn't have any interest to begin with). If you look up VSauce videos, historical breakdowns, philosophical audiobooks, etc. on YouTube a lot of this stuff amasses millions and millions of views. Average people now are a lot more aware of intellectual fields than they were 50 years ago and this is more dependent on accessibility to material rather than universities educating people. Being a "nerd" is normal now even for teenagers who have no clue what university they'll go to yet.
    Lol, RIP VSauce. Maybe YouTube would still be profitable enough not to require Premium if not for all the slander they've been getting, from old-media outlets scared as shit of their own obsolescence. I entirely blame them for systematically reducing YouTube to the fledgling state it's in today.

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    Quote Originally Posted by coeruleum View Post
    Trump has been in office quite a while, but still, I think I know the explanation for the rise of Trumpism: the dumbing down of American universities. Since everyone and their dog now gets a university degree "to survive in the economy," universities have nothing to do with the development of intellect any more. So now there are very few smart people, and evil smart people like Trump (let's just call a spade a spade, OK?) lead around all the stupid people into doing their biddings. Evil thriving when everyone becomes stupid seems like a good explanation for Nazi Germany too, but doesn't mean we have to compare Trump's government to ****** to validate criticism of it. Isn't the fact that he pretty much looks and acts like a Disney villain enough to really, seriously criticize him on?
    I should add that the majority of Western universities tend to promote the opposite of Trumpism in regards to the fact that universities are notorious for having a strong Liberal bias from most of the professors and their students tend to adopt those views readily due to high malleability. So Trumpism actually has little to do with universities aside from an indirect involvement by being against the mainstream thought of academia. On top of that the majority of American media nowadays tends to have a very strong liberal bias in regards to CNN and other major media outlets as well if you ignore Fox News. So the issue is almost the opposite of what you frame it as in that there's a big narrative being pushed towards heavy liberalism from universities and media nowadays. So Trumpism is merely the push back or counter force to that because it publicly goes against it.

    I'm not saying that Trumpism or any other form of it is inherently good or bad, but it exists as one of the more popular means to counter universities and the media's main narrative. Trump was smart enough to realize there was a huge voting base that was nationalist that was not voiced by any Republican candidate or Democratic candidates so he grabbed the majority of this voting base that lacked a voice and gave it one in the American mainstream. That's why a lot of Democrats ended up voting for Trump, it was their way of rebelling against the media's strong narrative to get Clinton as president. Anyways, I'm not saying that you have to be pro-Trumpism or become alt-right, but I know judging by your general views coeruleum that you have the propensity to at least see eye to eye on some right wing issues that counter some left wing ideas that are very harmful.

    That's what Trumpism really is in the end, it's a way for Americans and even other nationalities that are dissatisfied with mainstream politics to latch on to something big enough with enough momentum to fight the mainstream narrative because at the moment there isn't much else that is willing to go against it. It's the mainstream narrative of extreme liberal views that is heavily backed by corporations via mass media and government via academia. You don't need to join Trumpism or become alt-right to be against the mainstream narrative. You just need to recognize which of these views that are continuously shoved down our throats constantly are harmful and which ones are benign. The mainstream narrative is what I mentioned earlier of globalism, neo-marxism and post-modernism. In theory these ideas may sound appealing, but in practice is a different story and they can be incredibly harmful.

    If you recognized it then I think you are perfectly capable of becoming more sympathetic to Trumpism or even the alt-right without having to join them or even agreeing with most of their views. My views are generally far more left than people that generally support Trump or occupy the alt-right, but I can still see eye to eye with them on the issues that matter most because they are one of the few groups willing to fight the mainstream narrative that is constantly shoved down our throats via mass media and academia. So essentially I know you are aware that there is an oligarchy or economic elite yielding their sphere of influence, but you haven't identified their main weapon yet against the masses. When you do is when things will start to click for you and you'll be able to identify the problems that plague modern society and the solutions required more easily.
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    I agree with everything @Raver said. The closer you get to colleges in my area, the more liberals you’ll run in to. I would suggest watching the documentary Death of a Nation for another perspective on this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    I agree with everything @Raver said. The closer you get to colleges in my area, the more liberals you’ll run in to.I would suggest watching the documentary Death of a Nation for another perspective in this.
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    ^that is pretty amazing lol. i've vaguely heard about him getting shat upon by "the left" for this movie but didn't know it was that huge of a disparity. def gunna watch it now .
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