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    This old time actress from the 50s and 60s was definitely LIE.
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    mb LSI
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
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    Sol, if you want more intertype relations data, I know for a fact she is my Conflictor more than anything else, even if labeling was different. I saw her in a film briefly last night and she had facial expressions and mannerisms a vocal style exactly like someone I had the worst conflicts with this year. It was just like the description - constant conflict. Very unhappy experiences. Also VIs like Hillary Clinton, who knows how to put on a good outward show even to Conflictors in media.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Sol, if you want more intertype relations data, I know for a fact she is my Conflictor more than anything else, even if labeling was different. I saw her in a film briefly last night and she had facial expressions and mannerisms a vocal style exactly like someone I had the worst conflicts with this year. It was just like the description - constant conflict. Very unhappy experiences. Also VIs like Hillary Clinton, who knows how to put on a good outward show even to Conflictors in media.
    Because she is your supervisor.

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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    Because she is your supervisor.
    I disagree. I have Supervision relations regularly. She is my Conflictor.

    I am going based on interactions even more than type labels when reporting this data.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    I disagree. I have Supervision relations regularly. She is my Conflictor.

    I am going based on interactions even more than type labels when reporting this data.
    You need to fill out a proper MBTI or Socionics test urgently. There is a very high risk that you have mistyped yourself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    I am going based on interactions even more than type labels when reporting this data.
    Have you ever interacted with Yvonne de Carlo?

    For this typing to be true, we must assume:

    Your conflicts with the woman you mention were due to IR and not to other factors (of which there are many).

    You are typed correctly (not saying you aeren't)

    You typed this woman correctly (not saying you didn't)

    Mannerisms and facial expressions, which you go by to compare the woman you had conflicts with to Yvonne de Carlo, are a correct way to type.

    If mannerisms and facial expressions are a correct way to type, we must then assume that all types have the same mannerisms and no two types can have mannerisms that overlap, since you are saying the fact they have the same mannerisms means they are the same type.

    I could go on, but you get the point I am trying to make. I don't know what type Yvonne de Carlo is, btw. I don't know what the right way to type, is but there are too many "ifs" in your reasoning here for it not to be wrong, IMO.

    Sorry if this sounds harsh btw...but I think it's best to speak our minds. Anything else feels like dishonesty.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Sol, if you want more intertype relations data, I know for a fact she is my Conflictor more than anything else, even if labeling was different. I saw her in a film briefly last night and she had facial expressions and mannerisms a vocal style exactly like someone I had the worst conflicts with this year.
    conflicts on behavior level may happen with any type
    IR conflicts is about different thinking only, what only one of factors which predisposes to conflicts in common sense in some situations

    also the mentioned other human may to have other type. low typing matches leave high chance for this
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Yvonne de Carlo could be LIE. She looks a lot like my LSE mother, only nicer.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    Sol, if you want more intertype relations data, I know for a fact she is my Conflictor more than anything else, even if labeling was different. I saw her in a film briefly last night and she had facial expressions and mannerisms a vocal style exactly like someone I had the worst conflicts with this year. It was just like the description - constant conflict. Very unhappy experiences. Also VIs like Hillary Clinton, who knows how to put on a good outward show even to Conflictors in media.
    How can you differentiate between her persona while acting and her persona in real life? I haven't seen the film, but it's completely possible that she's a good actress and that she was supposed to play an LIE character. Typing via that standard would thus be unreliable.

    Also, Hillary Clinton is mostly accepted as LSI, though I can't comment much on that since I only know the minutiae of her thought processes. Seems beta in terms of quadra values, though.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FarDraft View Post
    How can you differentiate between her persona while acting and her persona in real life? I haven't seen the film, but it's completely possible that she's a good actress and that she was supposed to play an LIE character. Typing via that standard would thus be unreliable.

    Also, Hillary Clinton is mostly accepted as LSI, though I can't comment much on that since I only know the minutiae of her thought processes. Seems beta in terms of quadra values, though.
    It usually takes a while to learn it right, but there is a lot to be credited in terms of *how* one animates their body.

    Not everyone thinks Hillary is ISTJ. There are others who believe as I do.
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    Quote Originally Posted by vesstheastralsilky View Post
    It usually takes a while to learn it right, but there is a lot to be credited in terms of *how* one animates their body.

    Not everyone thinks Hillary is ISTJ. There are others who believe as I do.
    How do you know when you've learned it right? When your typings match up to the accepted one? If that's the case, then what is the accepted type? You claim that many think Hillary Clinton is LIE, when I've pretty much seen the consensus to be LSI. Who's correct? My point is that if we're not typing via things that can be universally understood, then that typing mechanism would be unreliable. It's part of the reason I'm critical of VI since different people's perceptions of how the type should look and act will determine their typing of other people. Trying to differentiate between acted motion and genuine motion is another layer of unreliability that requires immense amount of data to use properly. I'm skeptical that one individual with their own beliefs and opinions (largely against the norm, I might add, without sufficient proof in some circumstances like saying that DarkAngelFireWolf69 got the quadras backwards) could ever discern such a system with a high enough accuracy.

    Note: I'm not trying to use your beliefs against you, saying that it makes you less credible or anything. Instead, I'm saying that your typing standard already radically differs from many others, meaning that the inclusion of this new technique (typing movie character VI) isn't likely to make it any easier to narrow down peoples' types.
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    A picture worth 1000 words.


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    It is said you never truly know someone until you live with them. I can agree with that but I think this is more likely when it comes to romantic relationships (that don't last).

    https://www.bolde.com/never-really-k...-up-with-them/

    I prefer her like this ftr....

     




    I don't know her type but those eyes.


    Edit: Someone moved my post from the Yvonne De Carlo thread and now it makes less sense why I posted this image. This is not an interesting fact about me.

    Edit2: Moving this back to the thread it belongs in. Whoever moved it didn't check spoiler.
    Last edited by Aylen; 01-19-2019 at 11:49 PM.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aylen View Post
    I prefer her like this ftr....

     




    I don't know her type but those eyes.
    Yeah those...um, eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    Yeah those...um, eyes.


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    Quote Originally Posted by khcs View Post
    What makes you think you can type famous people, when you are unable to type yourself correctly?

    Why do you think you know me better than I know myself?!?

    If you thought I was different you can post your opinion here http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...of-yours-truly
    Last edited by vesstheastralsilky; 01-22-2019 at 01:39 PM.
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