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    Qtig does not even get to the pre-qualification phase for consideration of SLE because she is too girly, withdrawn, and low energy (don't believe me, watch tig's video). No SLE-Ti would put those bunny ears on their picture/avatar. Furthermore, Sky from Blue Ink, Coral from Real World, Camilla Poindexter and many other female SLEs all come across as ass-whippers. When I am sure that any of those women would beat Qtig up in a fight with one hand tied behind their backs, then I don't even have to reach consideration of SLE because there is no possible way the person can be SLE. For me to even consider somebody SLE, they have to be able to at least hold their own against Sky, Coral or Camilla in a fight, and this Qtig cannot do....watch Qtip's video, any one of those women would toss her around like a ragdoll. [Keep in mind that Qtig's 3w4 ego identifies with what it perceives as the rarer, more assertive types (triple assertive & SLE-Ti)....it's like recurring They show up as 9s or 3s and then after they spend some time on the forum they become triple expansive/assertive styles with sx/so 8w7 as the primary and either SLE or LIE for their socionics type. SLE/LIE 837 sx/so is now like the lamborghini of typology where people just want to be seen driving around in it. lol ]

    Qtig is more like a Katie Hopkins or Tiffany Pollard. That's a much better fit. They just do a lot of compensatory posturing but they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Though, they swear up and down they can.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Qtig does not even get to the pre-qualification phase for consideration of SLE because she is too girly, withdrawn, and low energy. No SLE-Ti would put those bunny ears on their picture/avatar. Furthermore, Sky from Blue Ink, Coral from Real World, Camilla Poindexter and many other female SLEs all come across as ass-whippers. When I can picture any of those women beating Qtig up in a fight with one hand tied behind their backs, then I don't even have to reach consideration of SLE because there is no possible way the person can be SLE. For me to even consider somebody SLE, they have to be able to at least hold their own against Sky, Coral or Camilla in a fight, and this Qtig cannot do....watch Qtip's video, any one of those women would toss her around like a ragdoll. [Keep in mind that Qtig's 3w4 ego identifies with what it perceives as the rarer, more assertive types (triple assertive & SLE-Ti)....it's like recurring They show up as 9s or 3s and then after they spend some time on the forum they become triple expansive/assertive styles with sx/so 8w7 as the primary and either SLE or LIE for their socionics type. SLE/LIE 837 sx/so is now like the lamborghini of typology where people just want to be seen driving around in it. lol ]

    Qtig is more like a Katie Hopkins or Tiffany Pollard. That's a much better fit. They just do a lot of compensatory posturing but they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Though, they swear up and down they can.
    An SLE hardly says “I love you.” Where an LSE does.
    An LSE hardly gives you encouragement “you got this; you can do it.” Where an SLE does
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    An SLE hardly says “I love you.” Where an LSE does.
    An LSE hardly gives you encouragement “you got this; you can do it.” Where an SLE does
    Probably because they are uncertain about love, uncertain about how they really feel, and uncertain it will be reciprocated. Afraid of saying to much, treachery is all over the place. Love is a forever thing to them and having low Ni (where are we going, where have we been?) plays its part. This is a little unspoken factor of low 1D Fi.

    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    An SLE hardly says “I love you.” Where an LSE does.
    An LSE hardly gives you encouragement “you got this; you can do it.” Where an SLE does
    An LSE isn't watching the unfolding interpersonal dynamics in real time (Fi-Fe) and rarely clues into the underlying motivations (Ne) in a way that could make a real moment by moment impact of the force created by words of encouragement. They think a Te result, or a Si motivation, or a Ne future opportunity drives the moment for people and simple encouragement (Fe) will not be sufficient to create the inner impetuous within the individual. For a LSE, if they have to give a word of encouragement like that is almost a failure, when in actuality they (they think they) should just shoulder the burden themselves as a despondent inoculator is probably going to be an ineffectual, or even incompetent one in their eyes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Probably because they are uncertain about love, uncertain about how they really feel, and uncertain it will be reciprocated. Afraid of saying to much, treachery is all over the place. Love is a forever thing to them and having low Ni (where are we going, where have we been?) plays its part. This is a little unspoken factor of low 1D Fi.



    An LSE isn't watching the unfolding interpersonal dynamics in real time (Fi-Fe) and rarely clues into the underlying motivations (Ne) in a way that could make a real moment by moment impact of the force created by words of encouragement. They think a Te result, or a Si motivation, or a Ne future opportunity drives the moment for people and simple encouragement (Fe) will not be sufficient to create the inner impetuous within the individual. For a LSE, if they have to give a word of encouragement like that is almost a failure, when in actuality they (they think they) should just shoulder the burden themselves as a despondent inoculator is probably going to be an ineffectual, or even incompetent one in their eyes.
    Yes, but doesn’t ESTJ have 1D Fi too in that they are bad with relationships and sometimes not aware of their feelings? I think that SLE are unsure of their feelings. LSE can be very sure of who they want for a relationship and their own feelings towards said person. To be clear LSE are bad with relationships because they say some of the cusp things in an unfiltered way and also to drive their fruition home with their interlocutor. “I’m right no matter what; do as I say.”
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

    Best description of functions:
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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    Yes, but doesn’t ESTJ have 1D Fi too in that they are bad with relationships and sometimes not aware of their feelings? I think that SLE are unsure of their feelings. LSE can be very sure of who they want for a relationship and their own feelings towards said person. To be clear LSE are bad with relationships because they say some of the cusp things in an unfiltered way and also to drive their fruition home with their interlocutor. “I’m right no matter what; do as I say.”
    Yup bossy Te. Its not so cut and dry, but I get it.

    Anyway,

    LSE, their suggestive is Fi, so its not really a wonder they would be okay exploring that.

    I'm trying to say that SLE Fi is totally unformed, its embryonic. They are very primitive in their approaches, its very innocent-like (same with LSE). This is the reason its said SLE will straight up ask to clear the air "hey, do you love me, or what?". They don't look at the context in the same way a Fi type, or any ethical, or any Fi quadra type, or anyone who doesn't have shit Fi would.

    They don't think to themselves, she is with me for years and we have these kids together, and I visit her family and therefore she must love me. Because this type of thinking is a type of Fi awareness.

    They need proofs, they need to see something tangible (think object sensing again). Object sensing kind of turns everything into an object, including feelings. And Object sensing is static, it doesn't change unless there is change- objects at rest, stay at rest, objects in motion, stay in motion, unless acted upon by an unbalanced force. This is why a SLE doesn't say I love you, its because if they do, then that love is an object and it doesn't need to change because objects don't change unless some force did so. This is also why it takes some time to make that object I love you into a thing in the first place because, it took forces to get that object into that state. This explains some of what occurs in the push pull nature of the dualizing here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Kill4Me View Post
    Qtig does not even get to the pre-qualification phase for consideration of SLE because she is too girly, withdrawn, and low energy (don't believe me, watch tig's video). No SLE-Ti would put those bunny ears on their picture/avatar. Furthermore, Sky from Blue Ink, Coral from Real World, Camilla Poindexter and many other female SLEs all come across as ass-whippers. When I can picture any of those women beating Qtig up in a fight with one hand tied behind their backs, then I don't even have to reach consideration of SLE because there is no possible way the person can be SLE. For me to even consider somebody SLE, they have to be able to at least hold their own against Sky, Coral or Camilla in a fight, and this Qtig cannot do....watch Qtip's video, any one of those women would toss her around like a ragdoll. [Keep in mind that Qtig's 3w4 ego identifies with what it perceives as the rarer, more assertive types (triple assertive & SLE-Ti)....it's like recurring They show up as 9s or 3s and then after they spend some time on the forum they become triple expansive/assertive styles with sx/so 8w7 as the primary and either SLE or LIE for their socionics type. SLE/LIE 837 sx/so is now like the lamborghini of typology where people just want to be seen driving around in it. lol ]

    Qtig is more like a Katie Hopkins or Tiffany Pollard. That's a much better fit. They just do a lot of compensatory posturing but they couldn't fight their way out of a paper bag. Though, they swear up and down they can.
    Firstly, I never claimed to be able to fight those people. Seems a bit classless and undignified to me. Also, I don't give a shit about how "rare" the type is that I am. But of course, you probably won't respond to this because you yourself are a pussy ass bitch. Grow a set of balls.
    Pretty sure Katie Hopkins, an absolute iconic queen, is an SEE (at least according to WSS). I'm also claiming 378 not 837. I've always claimed that tritype because that is my type and there is no debate about it. Also, I am Se valuing, not Si. I don't give a fuck about comfort whatsoever. So, at least limit yourself to beta/gamma quadra.
    Now, it's funny that you claim to be SLE 8w7 AND claim that everyone else wants to be that. Sounds like narcissism, and therefore illogical. We can as such conclude that you sir are using socionics to validate yourself and put others down (maybe due to lack of self love?). Move on.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Now, it's funny that you claim to be SLE 8w7 AND claim that everyone else wants to be that. Sounds like narcissism, and therefore illogical. We can as such conclude that you sir are using socionics to validate yourself and put others down (maybe due to lack of self love?). Move on.
    He does not have an 8 bone in his body. You yourself are more 8 than him.

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger557 View Post
    He does not have an 8 bone in his body. You yourself are more 8 than him.
    It's funny really, he seems far much more 1 than 8

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    It's funny really, he seems far much more 1 than 8
    Yeah, i think he is something like 6w7 6-1-4 . Wonder why he goes around thinking himself an 8w7..

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    Quote Originally Posted by roger557 View Post
    Yeah, i think he is something like 6w7 6-1-4 . Wonder why he goes around thinking himself an 8w7..
    I’d somewhat agree. I think 1 more because he seems to have this unhealthy 1 attitude of “I can do no wrong”. I think my tritype should be obvious on the grounds that 3,7 and 8 are the only types that fit me

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    I’d somewhat agree. I think 1 more because he seems to have this unhealthy 1 attitude of “I can do no wrong”. I think my tritype should be obvious on the grounds that 3,7 and 8 are the only types that fit me
    You do seem an straight shooter..

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Firstly, I never claimed to be able to fight those people. Seems a bit classless and undignified to me. Also, I don't give a shit about how "rare" the type is that I am. But of course, you probably won't respond to this because you yourself are a pussy ass bitch. Grow a set of balls.
    Pretty sure Katie Hopkins, an absolute iconic queen, is an SEE (at least according to WSS). I'm also claiming 378 not 837. I've always claimed that tritype because that is my type and there is no debate about it. Also, I am Se valuing, not Si. I don't give a fuck about comfort whatsoever. So, at least limit yourself to beta/gamma quadra.
    Now, it's funny that you claim to be SLE 8w7 AND claim that everyone else wants to be that. Sounds like narcissism, and therefore illogical. We can as such conclude that you sir are using socionics to validate yourself and put others down (maybe due to lack of self love?). Move on.
    What kind of Se things you do? That's a better question to ask yourself.
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    k4 is k4. Annoying, but come back to his thread posts at a later time and say to yourself, oh, okay maybe he has a point and maybe I am assuming his whole tone of voice. Maybe he said it all with a smile and maybe I have this wrong idea about SLE , because I project Donald Trump at all times when I think a SLE talks.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    What kind of Se things you do? That's a better question to ask yourself.
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    k4 is k4. Annoying, but come back to his thread posts at a later time and say to yourself, oh, okay maybe he has a point and maybe I am assuming his whole tone of voice. Maybe he said it all with a smile and maybe I have this wrong idea about SLE , because I project Donald Trump at all times when I think a SLE talks.
    Well I mean one watch of my videos shows how much I need and want power

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Well I mean one watch of my videos shows how much I need and want power

    Se just have it, they don't need it or want it. Its just there. Its perceptual awareness of objects at all time for the most part (being a base function).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    Se just have it, they don't need it or want it. Its just there. Its perceptual awareness of objects at all time for the most part (being a base function).
    And that is why I am also willing to see arguments for Se HA. I do not have an Si bone in my body, so therefore I have ruled out alpha and delta completely. We need to start cutting shit out, and I have done so by doing that. I will therefore not accept typings that are in those quadras because I don’t want to let the shit back in.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    And that is why I am also willing to see arguments for Se HA. I do not have an Si bone in my body, so therefore I have ruled out alpha and delta completely. We need to start cutting shit out, and I hve done so by doing that. I will therefore not accept typings that are in those quadras because I don’t want to let the shit back in.
    Okay.


    Not much more to say..

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Well I mean one watch of my videos shows how much I need and want power
    I watch your video and see Fe. I watch you here with people and I see Fe. You go to extremes so fast
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Beautiful sky View Post
    I watch your video and see Fe. I watch you here with people and I see Fe. You go to extremes so fast
    So EIE then

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    So EIE then
    Sure. If you want. You don’t need validation... your relationships will prove what works and what doesn’t. Intertype relationship is very natural process. You will feel with whom you conflict with and not.
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    Quote Originally Posted by Finaplex View Post
    What kind of Se things you do? That's a better question to ask yourself.
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    k4 is k4. Annoying, but come back to his thread posts at a later time and say to yourself, oh, okay maybe he has a point and maybe I am assuming his whole tone of voice. Maybe he said it all with a smile and maybe I have this wrong idea about SLE , because I project Donald Trump at all times when I think a SLE talks.
    Someone cursing and insulting you is not Se
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    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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