Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
EII are good chocolate, while IEI are bad hooch.

EII inspire my psyche, while IEI supress it. The other issues relate to different values and J/P.
I like IEI women in many aspects. But I do not get comparable emotional support, they more often behave in unpleasant way. Plus the mentioned weird effect on the psyche tonus, reduction of an attention abbility, arised anxiety and doubts in self (effects of superego region stimulation).

When you tune to them IRL, you feel they want from you to behave alike SLE are described - to fight for money and status - the more, - the better (LSE get that with other attitudes - alike to work good, be useful, be loyal, etc - then we expect to get normal life as a reward, we do not have that above as conscious aims). That SLE's attitudes I feel as alien for me and I'd was not sure in myself to live with such alien thinking.

> I wouldn't do that. I don't even laugh that loudly to begin with.

I saw how IEI laughed loud and smiled wide without good reasons, - they tried to improve the mood state of them and of others. For example, one IEI tried to make my mood better by playing pushing and words alike "do not be sad" (I did not talked about the problems - she just saw my emotions and tried to make them better). It's general Fe style to care about emotional tonus of other people. More expressed it is as base Fe types.
If you behave in other way, then you mb uncommon in this. Ask people near you about the behavior by which you try to influence on their mood. How often and when you are smiling, how much expressed is your smile. Mb you did not noticed the details which from a side are seen better.

> Ask most teen girls and some boys and they will consider themselves "dreamy".

1) doubtful
2) I told about external perception of this, but not what people would think or said about them
3) I told about general what mostly is adult age, but not teenagers or milk babies

> That says nothing about how Ni is as a cognitive function.

read the theory

First of all you have to know I have read the theory so don't patronize me. Base Ni is not just about movies, talking philosophy and being dreamy. If you knew theory you would know that. You should have more to say than that considering your relationships and friendships with IEI. Of course you want to make your duals sound like perfect angels but I know you must be joking about that holy Fi most of the time. Even you know better than that. If you could only see what goes on in the mind of Ni base and correctly interpret it then you would understand. You might show more respect for IEI than you do and not throw anyone who does not meet your strict EII guidelines (emotionally void people who accept you are the holy Te god and not question you) into beta. The only thing I am going to say about the bold part is... why do you still type teens then?

The rest is ok since it is all about your perception on how they make you feel and I have laughed in the middle of something before in response to what someone was saying or made a comment and people were surprised since they thought I was not paying attention. I guess it can come off dreamy. Being described like that now as an adult is kind of lame though. If that is the first thing someone who knew me well would say I would be a bit disappointed. My friends do say it looks like I am trance sometimes but that term doesn't bother me because that is when I am completely in the zone and when I come out I have clarity.

One of the first reports I brought home from grade school at the end of the year said I daydreamed too much. I was scolded by my ESI aunt for not paying attention and she wouldn't listen when I told her I wasn't daydreaming. She believed the teacher. My mom was more ok with it as long as my grades were good. It may have looked like I was daydreaming in class but most of the time I was already past what they were talking about so I would lose interest in what the teacher was saying to the others. My teachers knew I was above my grade levels (thanks to my aunt) and my grades didn't suffer from it.

My IEI brother brought home a different kind of report. They said he was disruptive because he would do something silly in class. Like the time a girl asked him to show what he had in his pants and she would show him first. She did it outside on the playground and then told him he had to wait until she wanted him to show it. She asked in class and poor thing actually dropped his pants for her in class. He was very young. I don't know if it was even 1st grade yet. My parents got called in for that one. They defended my brother of course with logic. I can't remember my EII sister getting in trouble or anything but she struggled more than my brother and me keeping good grades. She had to study more than both of us combined. She was always the dutiful one even as a little girl.