Instinctual Stacking and quadras

[VenusRose]

I am not sure if this has been done before or not. I know one already exists for MBTI and stacking, but I wanted to see what it was for socionics. I would really like to collect data on this topic, so I made a short little survey for it...

Ideally, I would like that the responses be based on a decent level of confidence as to the (1) socionics type and (2) instinctual stacking.

Here is the survey (3 Qs).

I would like to get as many responses as I can, so feel free to refer this survey to those outside of the forum, if you want to.

[VenusRose]

This is what I have from a previous survey I did (it is only 16 data points - I would prefer much more than that). But anyways, here it is:



Please fill out the survey so that I can collect more data!

[Sol]

I know one already exists for MBTI and stacking, but I wanted to see what it was for socionics.

to think MBT and Socionics as different typologies is nonsense

> I would really like to collect data on this topic, so I made a short little survey for it...

the other nonsense is to trust much to what people think about own types
if to take into account the quantity of active members as 10-20 people, where only a part has a serious interest to E-types - you should trust to E-types even lesser

> Ideally, I would like that the responses be based on a decent level of confidence as to the (1) socionics type and (2) instinctual stacking.

and main nonsense is to suppose about significant correlation between subtypes of other typology and Jung's types

in sum - the useless aproach with random results

you'd better researched Jung's types to understand the own correctly than to mess with enneagram on Jung's types forum

[Lord Panda]

@Venus Rose I would like to take your survey... is there a reliable method to discover my subtype stacking? Is there a test I can take or something similar to that?

[VenusRose]

@Venus Rose I would like to take your survey... is there a reliable method to discover my subtype stacking? Is there a test I can take or something similar to that?

There's ocean moonshine's stacking descriptions, if you know your core type.
There's several descriptions for instincts..
https://www.reddit.com/r/Enneagram/c...om_a_workshop/
https://www.enneagraminstitute.com/h...-system-works/ (it's at the very end)
https://oceanmoonshine9.wordpress.com/type-stackings/

I would just look and see what feels more comfortable for you

There are quizzes as well:
http://enneagramuserguide.com/enneag...acking-variant
https://www.eclecticenergies.com/enneagram/test-2
There's one of the forum here as well: http://www.the16types.info/vbulletin...Test-instincts

But yeah, I would only take those quizzes as guides. It's up to you what stacking feels right for you.

[Lord Panda]

Thank you for the resources. From the reddit post, sp first was a bit too painfully accurate lol.

Anyway, these are my entries: EIE, sp/sx, Harmonizing.

In enneagram, I'm fairly certain, 2w3, 269 tritype

[Pookie]

Thank you for the resources. From the reddit post, sp first was a bit too painfully accurate lol.

Anyway, these are my entries: EIE, sp/sx, Harmonizing.

In enneagram, I'm fairly certain, 2w3, 269 tritype

Oh snap. 629. Beta good Samaritans stand up!

[VenusRose]

Ah, I like that link. Read it before, but yes! This is what sx is about imo: and again, yes

I think so and sx are both very misunderstood. It's so that is about that warm connecting kind of experience. But sx is pure energy, it's like a fire that can't be quenched and man[...] I really like the image sometimes used of the "hungry ghosts" because it's like this black hole that needs needs needs.

For me they are kind of intertwined. I think 'prey' is more of a victim/aggressor thing though there's still a slight animalistic bend to sexuality regardless of your erotic attitude
I don't really want to be hunted or 'preyed upon' so to speak; I want something more safe and loving (Si valuing)
Though I see what the description is trying to get at, and I am ok with using it as a resource for instincts in general, the two different erotic attitudes should also be considered
The intense energy that you describe is something I am almost always immersed it, but for me to feel safe with someone, it also has to be "tender"; aggressors scare me.

That is to say, I don't think anyone who talks about in terms on bonding is necessarily talking about so, they may in fact be talking about the sexual instinct. Si/Ne is more indirect instead of bold and direct and they may be put off by blatant and bold descriptions...and sx energy is such that if something repels you, you do not want to engage with it.

Caregivers:

attraction is naturally sparked by the perceived aesthetic attributes of the prospective partner, but cooled off if such attributes are accompanied by a perception of "too aggressive" sexuality
inclination towards tenderness, "soft" rather than "hard" approach

(X)

[DirectorAbbie]

If I changed my self-typing, how do I change my answer?

[VenusRose]

If I changed my self-typing, how do I change my answer?

I can change your answer in my spreadsheet, DA
what would you like me to change it to? (I know your response since unfortunately only one LSE has responded as of now).

[DirectorAbbie]

I can change your answer in my spreadsheet, DA
what would you like me to change it to? (I know your response since unfortunately only one LSE has responded as of now).

stacking is now sx/sp.

[VenusRose]

stacking is now sx/sp.

Done.

[squark]

Yes, it's not the words themselves that are being used, as in you can still use the word "connection" in referring to sx, but it's what you mean by it. I see so as welcoming, friendly, "come on in and sit with me" kind of thing "we will be best friends", which is different from "let us immerse ourselves in each other's presence" -- idk perhaps it's just me, but it's not just people either, it's a feeling of wanting to swallow those things that intrigue you whole, pull it all into yourself almost drunk on it.

Sometimes I can't help but share some of it because it's more than I can contain . . . and I look a little insane lol. So, mostly it remains this private burning, and I really liked and related to that Van Gogh quote “A great fire burns within me, but no one stops to warm themselves at it, and passers-by only see a wisp of smoke” The images of fire and burning and consuming, like I myself am enveloped in flame is the source for my avatar as it's to me a picture of my insides. . .but the cover that contains it is all that the world sees.

[DirectorAbbie]

Yes, it's not the words themselves that are being used, as in you can still use the word "connection" in referring to sx, but it's what you mean by it. I see so as welcoming, friendly, "come on in and sit with me" kind of thing "we will be best friends", which is different from "let us immerse ourselves in each other's presence" -- idk perhaps it's just me, but it's not just people either, it's a feeling of wanting to swallow those things that intrigue you whole, pull it all into yourself almost drunk on it.

I think you and I have different ideas of best-friendship.

[DirectorAbbie]

Probably so. Every once in awhile I feel like I'm wandering the world with a mallet striking various bells, and they all fall flat, a dampened return, not a single one rings out. It's a rather lonely feeling.

I think you have the idea of best friends that I had five years ago.

[sbbds]

Probably so. Every once in awhile I feel like I'm wandering the world with a mallet striking various bells, and they all fall flat, a dampened return, not a single one rings out. It's a rather lonely feeling.

Initially I read this as “I feel like I’m wandering the world with a manlet striking various balls, and they all fall flat, a dampened return, not a single one rings out.”

... “It’s a rather lonely feeling.”

[sbbds]

Suddenly, I realized that’s literally what I’m doing since my boyfriend is 5’3”. The subconscious mind is telling.

[VenusRose]

Calling for more responses. I would like to wrap this up as soon as possible.

[VenusRose]

Closed the form; will now update with results.

[VenusRose]

[VenusRose]

**I skipped the stackings I had no responses for, in each quadra.

[VenusRose]

These are the basic charts, for now. I am planning on looking more into dichotomies perhaps, and seeing if there's anything interesting. Say for extroverts vs. introverts, or logical vs. ethical, etc.

Please let me know if you would like me to look at something specific