with not too serious aproach as music, being the emotional region, is opposite to T
common are electronic, industrial, sci-fi associations
with not too serious aproach as music, being the emotional region, is opposite to T
common are electronic, industrial, sci-fi associations
Last edited by Sol; 02-13-2023 at 10:35 PM.
How about Autechre limh
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Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
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I had a hard time getting into them because they are so stark. When I want something more heady than my usual artists, I reach for Plaid, Boards of Canada, Loscil and Vangelis, and Underworld because they still have a melodic-feely nature. Underworld is my favorite.
Here is a classic from the late 90s. IDM experimental at the time and very groundbreaking ime. It is really beautiful. Enjoy!!
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~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
: ) another favorite
This one has lyrics. Would you agree this is T?
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Autechre is definitely NT style music. A lot of IDM and Techno tracks also.
Most of the tracks of e.g. Boards of Canada, Future Sound of London or Squarepusher
like this ones:
T style music with Introverted Intution
Only 43 Minutes to listen to.
Another classic fav. The whole album is magnificent!
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Die Kunst der Fuge
Seems like T music taken to an extreme
https://youtu.be/Lrb0dHKJBR4
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
While I'm hardly into sports, this is from the Olympics soundtrack in the early 90s. I always loved the sound of ambition which the song conveys.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
To be honest it's quite difficult to categorize or sort intrumental music pieces into T or F.
I dare to say that alle fugues of Bach are T style music, because they're all logical structured.
I'm not an expert in the music of J.S. Bach, I know only a limited number of pieces from him. It's not the music I usually listen to.
So far I can tell J.S. Bach has a strong focus on T and in his compositions.
Air is very and also more F style.
^^^
That piece of music not T style confirmed.
It sounds quite melancholic, yes.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Ok, back to topic. T style music
This one is and
Ok this seems solid NT all-around.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
A lot of the music in this thread seems F style. Or maybe NiFe, ambient style. The problem is to get to the real T music, not just music that represents T style symbolically, like Future Sound of London that has a very futuristic, modern sound, but still F.
I like FSOL, I used to listen to it, but it sounds F.
One should try to find music that conveys as little feeling or mood as possible. Maybe it's not possible to get rid of all the F though.
ok, I'll try:
What about Stockhausen?
even Mozart seems often surprisingly T, when one listens with it in mind, like in this sonata:
some more Bach:
The decisive thing is not the reality of the object, but the reality of the subjective factor, i.e. the primordial images, which in their totality represent a psychic mirror-world. It is a mirror, however, with the peculiar capacity of representing the present contents of consciousness not in their known and customary form but in a certain sense sub specie aeternitatis, somewhat as a million-year old consciousness might see them.
(Jung on Si)
FSOL is more + style to me than F in general, but I have to agree that some pieces are more F than others. But it depends on the tracks.
Factories and Assembly is just an extreme example for T style.Originally Posted by Tallmo
Maybe try some noise style "music"?Originally Posted by Tallmo
It's neither T or F, it's simply a randomness of sound. I wonder who wants to listen to such stuff and likes it.
A T cover of a very F song.
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More T music, as just about everything in this thread is except maybe the classical suggestions are to a lesser extent, as they strike me as still being rather emotive in nature (Fi thrown in).
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Parodies of songs are prolly T music because there's no feeling behind them at all except mockery That and nerds usually like parody music more than actual music because they dislike too heavy emotions.
Also, music at American baseball games is pretty T. Esp the 70s rock.
King Crimson might be T too. Ayreon works @Sol
“My typology is . . . not in any sense to stick labels on people at first sight. It is not a physiognomy and not an anthropological system, but a critical psychology dealing with the organization and delimitation of psychic processes that can be shown to be typical.” —C.G. Jung
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Parodies, which are also interesting as music itself - relate more to F, as mb heard more to get pleasant emotions than to notice a humor. For example:
and T style mockery
> Also, music at American baseball games is pretty T. Esp the 70s rock.
I suppose, you overesteemate the intellectualism of the music for sport fans
> King Crimson might be T too. Ayreon works, Sol
Progressive rock mb thought as a mix of F and T approaches.
Here is another T song, with subtle F.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Yet another good song
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
hmm
This is Nicolette from Massive Attack. I never got into the latter but her solo work is interesting. This song is more for the instrumentation though than her real singing style.
~* astralsilky
Each essence is a separate glass,
Through which Sun of Being’s Light is passed,
Each tinted fragment sparkles with the Sun,
A thousand colors, but the Light is One.
Jami, 15th c. Persian Poet
Post types & fully individuated before 2012 ...
Some tracks from the 1980s.
Mostly a piece of T music, with a very weak focus on F valued subdued lyrics.
hidden agenda only, but otherwise T style and irrational.
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the compositional method seems PTheir workspace—their core creation, really—is something they refer to as “the system”: a labyrinthine compendium of software synthesizers, virtual machines, and digital processes that they readily admit would be indecipherable to anyone but themselves. Their actual method of making music could be boiled down to what they call “fuckery”: endlessly tinkering with the software in their respective studios until the results sound good enough to merit hitting the “record” switch. They consider themselves explorers as much as creators—spelunkers navigating deep in the recesses of their own mutant technology.
on the right ILE, it seems
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