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    Question Where do normal Alphas hang out?

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    Parties. Bars. Well, ILE's anyway. LII's, not so much.

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    Bar. Where the good food is sushi
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    Their grandparents house

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    Nerdy gatherings, especially ones with food available
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    D&D or Magic the Gathering

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    Lol one of my coworkers who's always all smiley and being social plays magic the gathering. She asked me if I played but I told her I wouldn't wanna play unless I could be the best or at least have the time to get good. And I don't really have the interest for that.

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    Family gathering-esque places. I don’t live in the US so I cannot confirm, but I’ve heard of Chuck E Cheese which is a place you might want to try lol.

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    I asked an ILE where he took his first dates, and he said a bowling alley.

    I said to him, "I didn't know you bowled." He said, "I don't. It's something that we both suck at. Plus, there's beer."

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    God. Hiking, badminton and bowling makes me think Alpha trifecta lol. I’m sure Alphas also consider church a sport for appeasing Deltas.

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    Somewhere that allows us to live our childish nerdy instincts in the adult world without getting caught, or if we get caught, we're the best.

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    Alpha and WASP are basically interchangeable

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nebula View Post
    D&D or Magic the Gathering
    D&D or MtG accompanied by bootleg Bo Burnham humor is pretty much peak alpha in my experience. Also just dabbling in whatever flavor-of-the-week game or activity they've decided to latch onto; I remember a pair of friends of mine (ILE and ESE most likely) would basically have a new shared hobby every day.

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    Like members of any quadra, they can hang out in any environment.

    I find they enjoy environments where there is food/drink, and lots of (in my opinion) purposeless banter and cheeriness.


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    Usually ESE's arrange something, SEI's can be huge homebodies. Latter one sounds more attractive. Like the ILE Eric from video below divorced ESE (if I have understood correctly) because it was too much Fe for him and ESE did not really approve his occasional schizoid tendencies.


    So you can find ILE's pushing a trolley chicken in it. It almost sounds like something I would do on my free time.
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    @Troll Nr 007, trolley with a chicken in it, lol! & Chuck E Cheese lol. I liked the shows at Major Magic's when I was a kid and went there with my family.

    As perhaps an atypical SEI, I have rarely gone into bars. I find them boring but of course it can be the company one keeps which brings a place to life. I don't get buzzed from most alcohol so when around other drinkers, tend to come out of my shell more in hopes they will be more accepting and attribute my behavior to the alcohol. Limh.

    My biggest personal hangouts over the years have been bookstores and coffee shops.

    I am too much of a snob to go bowling. I have only done it a few times in high school for charity (lol that sounds funny but I meant fundraising competitions).

    You can count me out of most athletics because Se is my 7th function. It would have to be a sport like badminton where you are extremely unlikely to get hurt. Even then I would need coaxing to play.

    I rarely have gone to the beach even though there is ample opportunity where I live. I can't stand feet and I can't swim either, so there are two major aversions - especially seeing people's feet exposed.

    Now everyone please don't go changing your avatars to naked feet.

    I like bars that have jukeboxes because then I can play DJ. I love doing that. You can set up songs that set the whole mood for a group of people if you do it right. And I have done many kinds of moods. But the place has to be comfortable and let's face it - bars tend to have many uncomfy chairs. And if people get too loud like a non-Adam Strangish ENTJ female making a scene, I want to hide away from the unpleasant feelings. So even if a halfway cozy bar with an awesome mega jukebox exists, if I am feeling tired in any way or in discomfortable health in any way I might try not to go because loud obnoxious people might cause more physical pain for me to be around.

    Dance clubs are a great prospect for the dancing but they are not as interesting now as say 20 years ago. Often the music sucks at any decade so I am fussy about how good the music is. But when it is good, it is really good. My financial astuteness generally makes me unwilling to pay much in a cover charge though nor much on alcohol because it seems too much of a luxury I can't regularly afford, even if it is $5. I would rather save for a home and cozy environmental investments I can own.

    Hmm. I like going to parks. Walking a mile or two. I like visiting museums and galleries so I go at least once a year but would prefer more if I had money to blow.

    I have never been invited to a nerdy gathering. That sounds fun.

    I remember throwing 2 parties that went well. They were smaller guest lists since I am an introvert and don't know many people to invite for fun who would come. I think my old best friend who died in a car accident was ILE. She threw a party at her house once and we had a blast. If she were still around, I am sure we would've had many more. I met her in college at the learning Center. In fact, I do enjoy hanging out at colleges and learning centers when you can belong there a bit. But those days are behind me.

    I've picked up a guy at the library before and run into friends there but obviously it is not an ideal place for a hangout.

    I have visited with family a lot in the past especially seeing Grandma in the nursing home regularly. That was not exactly a hot spot for a smashing young social life but I don't regret her ESE companionship one bit.
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    I spend a lot of free time in libraries. Many SEIs seem to as well, for what that’s worth. Otherwise I don’t go out too much of my own volition. Being in a relationship has helped somewhat in that respect. Maybe to parks — I like to walk, and to people-watch.

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    Construction is generally ST land, but I always find alpha SFs there also. ESE, SEI, Normalizing, Dominant, sometimes Creative, only one Harmonizing so far. My last co-worker was C-ESE, very experienced, and totally random in his methods. Funny guy. He later got into some argument with the work supervisors and left. Apparently he just stopped working and just chatted with people during the day because he felt like it.

    Almost no intuitives, although they can be spotted sometimes.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Tallmo View Post
    Construction is generally ST land, but I always find alpha SFs there also. ESE, SEI, Normalizing, Dominant, sometimes Creative, only one Harmonizing so far. My last co-worker was C-ESE, very experienced, and totally random in his methods. Funny guy. He later got into some argument with the work supervisors and left. Apparently he just stopped working and just chatted with people during the day because he felt like it.

    Almost no intuitives, although they can be spotted sometimes.
    No intuitives? No kidding.

    I went out for a walk this morning along a street that has been torn up all summer. The old road was cut out for about a mile, then a deep trench dug up and filled in, then asphalted over temporarily, and now the concrete is being replaced. I passed a construction worker who was just walking to work and I asked him, "What's going on here?"
    "Putting in a curb."
    "No, I mean, why did they dig up the road?"
    "No idea. Have a nice day."

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    normal? Where are the normal alphas? I have yet to find any.

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    Quote Originally Posted by The Perpetual Now View Post
    normal? Where are the normal alphas? I have yet to find any.
    So in this case societally abnormal is normal in a quadra. Have a visit at local insane asylum but be sure it is not for criminally insane- that is the place where betas hang out.
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    Although I detested it, I went to many bars, parties and dances to meet someone; so for me, it was like a project and I would remain only until all possibilities were exhausted, which sometimes took very little time. I preferred weightlifting, running, biking, canoeing/boating and wilderness camping because these activities seemed to really clear my mind (and three of them were useful as daily transportation); on occasion, I've taken women on these activities but never met anyone during them. Now my dual loved the social events and interaction, and wished she had had more opportunities. I can only conclude that alphas don't all like hanging out in the same places although they may end up together at them.........

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    I preferred weightlifting, running, biking, canoeing/boating and wilderness camping because these activities seemed to really clear my mind (and three of them were useful as daily transportation)
    Yes indeed.

    Here we can see ESE doing weightlifting with LII.

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    well the ILEs are off making cool music like this

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    Quote Originally Posted by aster View Post
    Nerdy gatherings, especially ones with food available
    I'll throw my support behind this one, as it matches my personal experience. If there is a good selection of food, and a good topic to get into, alphas will be there. It can be the stereotypical D&D/MtG/comics/anime type of gathering, a socionics meetup, or something that is less commonly regarded as nerdy like a fan forum of a band – whatever can pique interest and give an excuse to eat greasy food and drink beer.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Carnaedy View Post
    I'll throw my support behind this one, as it matches my personal experience. If there is a good selection of food, and a good topic to get into, alphas will be there. It can be the stereotypical D&D/MtG/comics/anime type of gathering, a socionics meetup, or something that is less commonly regarded as nerdy like a fan forum of a band – whatever can pique interest and give an excuse to eat greasy food and drink beer.
    Yeah I’ll pretty much go anywhere if I’m told there will be free food.

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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    Yeah I’ll pretty much go anywhere if I’m told there will be free food.
    I pretty much go anywhere where I can get attention that values weirdness or it has good comical elements. Private closed off insider events are big turn off.
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    In my opinion thinker alphas you find in most nerdy universities programs and intellectual activities such as certain game events (board games, fighting for knowledge game). Ethic alphas you can find at any volunteering activities or events with fun without alcohol. Or i just know that type of alphas (not that i go near activities like that, i just know what ppl like)

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    Museums, art galleries, biking on the beach, D&D MtG places, thrift stores, at a good restaurant, watching Marvel movies in the theater, taking a fun class together at school, grocery stores...

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    in ur butthole

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rebelondeck View Post
    Although I detested it, I went to many bars, parties and dances to meet someone; so for me, it was like a project and I would remain only until all possibilities were exhausted, which sometimes took very little time. I preferred weightlifting, running, biking, canoeing/boating and wilderness camping because these activities seemed to really clear my mind (and three of them were useful as daily transportation); on occasion, I've taken women on these activities but never met anyone during them. Now my dual loved the social events and interaction, and wished she had had more opportunities. I can only conclude that alphas don't all like hanging out in the same places although they may end up together at them.........

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    Honestly I think their favourite congregation would be in someone's comfortably lite living room playing board games and drinking and eating snacks. Maybe a culturally relevant movie playing in the background that everyone can enjoy, or at least get something from. For example youtube playing on the big screen smart TV. ESE are not the most extroverted, extroverts, all the time. SEI are homebodies as was mentioned. LII and ILE really go with the flow. Boredom happens easily, although the sensors can fall back into familiar creature comforts/mental activities (TV for example) without becoming bored. Lot's of novelties. Nick nack stores with glow in the dark posters for the young ones, and craft stores for the older more settled ones. Occasionally you get a more street style, cool guy, see SEI here. Lip piercings maybe, some sensing type activities, skate boarding for instance, some book nerds, ect.

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    I just imagine 'serious' role playing being pretty much Ni ego thing. Maybe one could expect it from LII's.


    Anyway, I prefer to mock it. "I'm am your God/Jesus/flying spaghetti monster/whateva..."
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    There are no normal Alphas. We're all weirdos.

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    stamp collecting shops, libraries, under your bed

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    The alpha rational couple I know went to the same college and on their anniversary they went back and posted pics of the grounds and scenes of the buildings on Facebook in celebration.

    Maybe this isn't weird. I went to tech school so what do I know.

    To be fair, i think that's where they met.

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    lmaooo

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    As an Alpha (and most likely an LII) I only hang out wherever my friends (and family) invite me to. We normally just go to the movies, try new restaurants, have a light conversation at a cafe, go to a bookstore, etc. I never go to bars and I would never want to.

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    SFs get married and/or have kids soon in life, usually after hs or college. So they are at home or in the park or at supermarkets with their kids.
    Sometimes female SEI take a little longer to get pregnant so you could see them hanging out with friends, trying to open their own business, usually a bakery or similar (and failing at it due their high prices and standard quality), they also enjoy spending most of their time in stuff like social media, their fashion style, cooking or organising the smallest details in parties.
    When kids are grown up, you can find ESE working as seller in some local store or corporation.

    LIIs are usually at school even after graduated. You can also find them at some party organised by an SF. If they don't became professors they get some desk job related to their career area.

    ILEs are everywhere. Stereotypically in science but can be seen in different areas. They can get part jobs at some pet shop or coffee shop and dedicate the rest of their time to create some advanced toys to entertain themselves with to feel less lonely (just in case they didn't managed to impregnate an SEI in which case they'd still working at some shop).

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