My vote's for EIE.
My vote's for EIE.
I agree with EIE. I used to think ESE, but now I’m not seeing it...I’m sure his public image is also different than his personal... and he’s pretty weirdly controlling about it and what he’s shows, more so than the average celeb, so I’ve read online. Of course you can’t believe everything you read on those gossip sites, but
EIE, indeed
istj
ESE
As I am writing this, the movie Top Gun II, which seems to be an extended Air Force recruiting ad, just came out. My SLI son and I were talking about Tom Cruise.
I said that the guy was in fantastic shape for someone 59 years old, and my son, who never has a bad word to say about anyone, suddenly got angry and said something derogatory about an old man who refuses to look his age.
For the record, I believe that SLIs want to look old from the day they are born, so perhaps encountering someone who doesn't want to look old violates their sense of values.
Oh, and given Cruise's focus on visuals and his lack of focus on substance, my vote for Tom Cruise is ESE.
@Adam Strange: reminds me of something an LSE once said to me, that he doesn't like people in their mid-thirties who still skateboard. He thinks they should act their age... you can see the conflict potential with the youthful beta quadra. With gamma you also sometimes have the pecularity that they like the wear suits even when they are young, which looks kinda weird when they have a baby face.
https://soziotypen.de/wp-content/upl...p-Amthor-1.jpg
In their mind they are already responsible adults but their appearance hasn't caught up yet
Scientology stoodge.
ESE. He reminds me a lot of Shania Twain for some reason...
EIE-D?
LSI
EIE-NOriginally Posted by aster reverie
EIE > ESE
I think he is SLE.
Many people of the film industries who know Tom are a little terrified of him. His smile seems not just fake but "alien", and is gaze cold and empty.
It is as he has the need to show himself perfect, hiding obsession of protagonism and fixations. The American Psycho book makes fun of him a lot for these reasons.
Also, SEE/SLE are the types who believe more in conspiracy theories, due to suggestive Ni (Jung said the same for Se dominant in MBTI, and socionics has been able to better explain this).
EIE could be a good second option, but I don't think he could be Si PolR.
For ESE, I can't see Alpha quadra values at all. I think he is Beta.
ESTp SLE
Demands and sharply stairs down at the interviewer demanding for respect and proper manners
https://youtube.com/shorts/eEEwe2Uk2bo?feature=share
Edit requiring respect
Last edited by Beautiful sky; 01-26-2023 at 02:16 PM.
-
Dual type(as per tcaudilllg)
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
My vote is for ESE
You didn’t watch my video?
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
EIE vibe
SLE have Fe activation
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
I did not. I watched it now, I think he is too expressive for SLE. Also, demanding respect and proper manners are ethical demands.
Not necessarily ethical because an SLE could have a desire to 'put you in your place' if you overstep. Regardless of Cruise's type.
Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.
No not at all
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
You think he’s not SLE using Se?
Watch this
https://youtu.be/YKvxy31_Wvo
Dual type
Enneagram 5 (wings either 4 or 6)?
I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE
Best description of functions:
http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html
SLE has hidden agenda Fe, and in model G, Fe+.. Beta is expressive.. The extroverts more, but all of beta is expressive. The least is LSI..
I am in my head; not society.
Yes, that is who I am, hence the bold am. Also, a brain angel. (But Zelda's incarnate too).
My thoughts align with action to succeed what needs…
Dragons:
Babies, click them to make them grow up into Kara’s Dragon Museum
My favorite adult Museum Exhibits
Guy looks like an SLE to me, he's definitely a weirdo though.
"Precision beats power and timing beats speed"
See if you can find the PoLR.
Ding! Ding! Ding!
Black & white is a shallow divide, division is the color that multiplies
Taking things at face value is good only for a spell
To experience is simple, to explain is divine
Hearts of stone are a dead giveaway: no movement
His role in "Eyes wide shut" perfectly suited his personality. No wonder the going-to-work scene of Dr. Harford served as inspiration for the American Psycho film.
“I want the following word: splendor, splendor is fruit in all its succulence, fruit without sadness. I want vast distances. My savage intuition of myself.”
― Clarice Lispector
LSE
LSI. Definitly sensor type. Seems extroverted in behavior.
E, N. mb ENTJ
you were supposed to agree with me.
Might be IEI
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
I had no chance to resist.
Sensory + Logical. Beta > Delta. LSI > SLE
I had this guy as an LSE.Has been moved from INFP to ESFj on Rick's Socionics site (should have been to moved to an asylum...).
http://socionics.us/celebrities/ese.shtml#cruise
Meh. I'm quite impressionable, so I yeah, I think that's a plausible type...but what do I know? It's certainly more plausible than INFp.
I think that Tom Cruise is too unstable to be an LSE. He's also way too concerned with having a young-looking, pretty face, which is really not an LSE concern. I think he's an Alpha, particularly an ESE.
In Cruise, I see a lot of his projecting his personal bullshit onto others, which I interpret as strong Fe. His concern for having a youthful appearance, I see as strong Si.
Last edited by Adam Strange; 12-05-2023 at 03:26 PM.
His obsession with youth and beauty indicates that he values extroverted sensing, because Si is more concerned with having an appropriate, presentable appearance, caring little on what status or physical attractiveness it indicates. That isn't to say that some Si valuing types don't enjoy appearing elegant, but if it is a main point of your life and observable for other people, it usually means the person values Se, especially since he makes a great effort in appearing physically fit too
my ideas about socionics:
https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/
the section will be updated ever other month or so.
this is a VI thread with IEI examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)
and this is a thread with EIE examples
https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples
Posting Permissions
Reply With Quote
