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    Default As delta, do you tend to be attracted to beta production/creativity ?

    Christopher Nolan, Alfonso Cuarón, gabriel fauré, Malher....

    Nietsche, shopenhauer... (I read philosophy but aside exception I don't understand everything)

    Dali...

    I found that a quadra tend to appreciate the creation of contrary quadra as if it was perfect (even if it's somewhat shit when you hear the criticism from the quadra who produced it). It could be explained by many things.

    It seem we found the creation of our proper quadra "improvable", "I would have done this like that".(there are exception. I feel that for Brahms music for example, but his late work is sublime)

    I don't know if it's exportable to all quadra.

    as a minor note, for me, perhaps Mozart (ENFP) is an exception. I like Gabriel Faure Agnus Dei as much as Mozart Lacrimosa for example.

    disclaimer : I can't stand Wagner. There is some ESTP music that I like but I never liked Wagner.

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    Dali I like because I like surrealism. But from what my dad (who has art degrees) said, Dali was more of a showman and hired people to make some of his paintings.

    Nolan's the one who directed that Batman trilogy, right? That's the only Batman movie I like.

    In general, I would say I'm not a fan of Beta things. Though any quadra can produce something widely regarded as good.

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    Quote Originally Posted by noaydi View Post
    Christopher Nolan, Alfonso Cuarón, gabriel fauré, Malher....

    Nietsche, shopenhauer... (I read philosophy but aside exception I don't understand everything)

    Dali...

    I found that a quadra tend to appreciate the creation of contrary quadra as if it was perfect (even if it's somewhat shit when you hear the criticism from the quadra who produced it). It could be explained by many things.

    It seem we found the creation of our proper quadra "improvable", "I would have done this like that".(there are exception. I feel that for Brahms music for example, but his late work is sublime)

    I don't know if it's exportable to all quadra.

    as a minor note, for me, perhaps Mozart (ENFP) is an exception. I like Gabriel Faure Agnus Dei as much as Mozart Lacrimosa for example.

    disclaimer : I can't stand Wagner. There is some ESTP music that I like but I never liked Wagner.
    So basically you're saying that you tend to notice flaws best in your own quadra?

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    related to valued regions is more interesting. to weak functions mostly, where I seek to get fun and to rest like Socionics (Ne, Fi). the other catches lesser and more surfacely
    where opposite quadra produces in my valued regions - there it can be interesting. more interesting. nonvalued regions catch lesser, but are important anyway and hence attract to some degree also
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    So basically you're saying that you tend to notice flaws best in your own quadra?
    It can have some meaning ? Production of your own quadra often hit your proper function, so you could be interested into reframing the production into the view of how you view thing by this function.


    related to valued regions is more interesting. to weak functions mostly, where I seek to get fun and to rest like Socionics (Ne, Fi). the other catches lesser and more surfacely
    where opposite quadra produces in my valued regions - there it can be interesting. more interesting. nonvalued regions catch lesser, but are important anyway and hence attract to some degree also
    I agree with that and it's a little what I was trying to say. Element produced from contrary quadra from their ignored wich hit your function tend to have a good impact on yourself, as if it was "the good way to use it" in term of creativity.
    Not sure, just trying

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    I do notice I highly regard any work that has an bigger Ni conspiracy to it. It leaves many things to be interpreted but I cannot grasp what the whole mystery is about.

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    Beta production and creativity ... ? ... You mean like construction home repairs (st) and inventing family dramas (nf)? Hmm.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aramas View Post
    So basically you're saying that you tend to notice flaws best in your own quadra?
    Thx for the resume, it was what I was trying to say effectivelly.
    Either it could have some logic (you are, in your proper quadra, at the better place to see what is done wrong/wright as you value the same functions).

    It's only kinda hypothetical, and even, the final result is not perhaps as simple as "I find contrary quadra perfect/mine improvable". There is perhaps just a discret dynamics of this thru all quadra.

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