Quote Originally Posted by Neokortex View Post
Took a glance at Hitchens - 5 is there... might have a w6 but at the core he is a 3. I can even see him as a 5w4 for his emphasis on being attacked for his critique. Not Sx/So - he seems to be a "beta" extrovert with more Sp-dom vibes (like my uncle).
Once again, someone getting typed Beta just because they are Sx/So. You are proving my point.

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Took another look at Swinton - the social and contraflow is there but her strong presence and the way she patronizes the interviewer somewhat in the beginning makes me think of Sx/So 4w5, such as Alain de Botton (we've had a debate about him already on PerC). I think her "pride" is an addition to her current fame, possibly inflated ego. The "flat vibe" is not the lack of Sx but the tucking it away - Sx aux. are the ones who don't mind showing it off, "creative instinct." For Sx dom it's riskier and the British upbringing may play into that.
It is true that British upbringing might play a role, however, nevertheless the second instinct can be quite "exhibitionistic" (even under some restraint). It is like a light, it will shine through, even amidst clouds. So/Sx is the lightest stacking, like a butterfly. An So/Sx individual is gonna play with attraction and passion. Tilda is very much not doing so, she seems uninterested in seeming sexually attractive or passionate. She is quite dry in that sense. Untypical of SX second.

Quote Originally Posted by Neokortex View Post
But back to the initial matter: I don't know about 8s but I, as a Sx CP 6, don't employ passion and dramatics to attract a mate. What I employ is actually intellectual dominance, a sort of aggression, "contrarianness." Doesn't really work, tho. DDD
TBH, I am bewildered by your use of Enneagram/Tritype. Must be your Creative Ne. It is all over the place. Reminds me of an LII 5w6 guy I know.