Quote Originally Posted by Olimpia View Post
Not only that, the Sexual 4 tends to employ that passion and dramatics in order to attract a mate, almost like a mating call, haha. (They share that tendency with Sexual CP 6s and 8s.)
You mean female Sx CP 6s? Because for me (male) it's not the case. It depends on what you mean by "passion." For me it's being inquisitive, accusative and intellectual banter. As a social 4 drama is low key for me, rather like an undercurrent of sadness or in not following through. (maybe for some it's dramatic if I accuse them of wrong intents..., haha)

Quote Originally Posted by Blue View Post
Agree. In case of sx 4s, they still can be a more aggressive subtype. They may feel and express anger more than sadness and act against their shame (despite feeling underlying shame). Sx 4s can be prideful even!
As Sx 4 females I think of Tilda Swintons and Aimee Manns. They have this sad but neutral/flat vibe, keep their passion back to be normal. I think that pridefulness comes with contraflow.

So 4s still want to belong. The group in this case would likely be more counter-cultural or elitist as opposed to popular. As Socials they still would like to have a sense of group identity. For 4s, goths for instance.
I do want to belong but earnestly, who doesn't? 8 has entitlement, 4w5 indulgence and a lot complaint and in my case, 4w3 it's more like feeling deserving better quality (sp 3), being a prince who deserves better company, more educated people.