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    This is a supplementary guide to my Functional Definitions. I am asserting my years of thoughts and personal findings because the contradictory datasets in Socionics IME can get too frustrating plus IMO much is not wholly accurate. So I will continue on with my take in a grassroots sort of theoretical fashion.

    My caveat is that ones Natural Type may be taken for granted by the Self. It is easy to aspirationally identify with a type in ones opposing Quadra, yet struggle to achieve personal satisfaction with matters pertaining to the Socionics ID functions without Dual or Activity outside help (directly or indirectly).

    I developed a model in 2012 where the Natural Type was modified and superseded by a set of potentially 6 other triadic types which correspond to ground through throat chakras on an egoic level and reflect learned behaviors and coping mechanisms to augment natural type and complete a portrait of an individuated self. Thus, if you can identify with more than one of the following archetypes, it is different facets of one whole psyche you are perceiving.

    I am not defining the traditional Alpha Beta Gamma Delta quadras here because understandings are often flipped in established literature from one source to the next. Perhaps this fresh perspective will add clarity much needed.

    1. The Si-Ne-Ti-Fe Quadra

    NeTiOi - ENTP ILE-Ti INNOVATOR
    NeTiOe - ENTP ILE-Ne VISIONARY FUTURIST
    NeTiXe - INTJ LII--Ne TECHNICAL SURREALIST
    NeTiXi - INTJ LII-Ti CREATIVE DIRECTOR

    SiFeOi - ESFJ ESE-Si HOST
    SiFeOe - ESFJ ESE-Fe TRADITIONALIST
    SiFeXe - ISFP SEI-Fe SOCIALITE
    SiFeXi - ISFP SEI-Si AESTHETE

    2. The Ni-Se-Ti-Fe Quadra

    SeTiOi - PROTECTOR WARRIOR
    SeTiOe - ACTIVE CONSERVATOR
    SeTiXe - CULTIVATING ENGINEER
    SeTiXi - FARMER/NAVIGATOR

    NiFeOi - WATCHER/ALARMIST
    NiFeOe - TEACHER/GOVERNESS
    NiFeXe - SOCIAL WORKER
    NiFeXi - MONARCH DREAMER (ESCAPIST)

    3. The Ni-Se-Fi-Te Quadra

    SeFiOi - CONNOISSEUR
    SeFiOe - COACH
    SeFiXe - LIAISON
    SeFiXi - GUARDIAN

    NiTeOi - ENTERPRISER
    NiTeOe - LAB EXPERIMENTER
    NiTeXe - NATURAL SCIENTIST
    NiTeXi - AUDITOR

    4. The Si-Ne-Fi-Te Quadra

    NeFiOi - ACTOR
    NeFiOe - INSPIRER/(PIED PIPER)
    NeFiXe - DANDY
    NeFiXi - BOHEMIAN/SHAMAN

    SiTeOi - CAPTAIN/REVIVALIST
    SiTeOe - FOREMAN
    SiTeXe - SERVITOR
    SiFeXi - PURITAN ASCETIC

    A post with keywords for each of these quadras values will follow.
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    What do the X and the O mean? Interesting you point out one of the gamma NTs as the auditor. I know an LIE with a reputation for his uncanny skill at auditing (finding people's dirty laundry) and who was told he would be an auditor in his career test in high school.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ouronis View Post
    What do the X and the O mean? Interesting you point out one of the gamma NTs as the auditor. I know an LIE with a reputation for his uncanny skill at auditing and who was told he would be an auditor in his career test in high school.
    I had to use a new convention for subtypes that point the directional flow of energy. I've updated it so that Oi corresponds to Aries so it's like an introverted extrovert. Oe corresponds to Capricorn as a true extrovert. Xe corresponds to Libra as an extroverted introvert. Xi corresponds to Cancer as true introverted introvert. All are cardinal signs. ( I am not suggesting any Sun sign correlations with typing in practice though.)

    The Auditor is definitely Gamma NT and is mostly ILI-Ni. I think many have confused types split across quadras which has only perpetuated a lack of scientific consensus. For example the LIAISON aka the mediator is often called ISFP but the GUARDIAN ISFJ when both are Gamma ISFJs.
    I've done enough personal serious research to offer up something fresh and more coherent as a whole.
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    To clarify: the ACTIVE CONSERVATOR in mundane terms is one who is alert to and active about maintaining material structures. If a lightbulb needs replacing, if the plumbing requires repair, if walls need repainting, if road construction needs to be done, the ACTIVE CONSERVATOR is in their element at these ventures. Even bridge building. : )
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    Quote Originally Posted by Venus Rose View Post
    I would like some more explanation for the Oi/Oe and such...
    are you mixing in the astrological archetypes with the socionics types? Not to say people of a certain type are certain astrological types...

    But still confused.

    For instance, what exactly do you mean by this one?
    NeFiXi - BOHEMIAN/SHAMAN
    That particular type is like a community folk hero helper healer type. Think of the quest Frodo took played by Elijah Wood who I type as this as well. He was a common guy among his people yet special too - called upon to do unusual things of a more esoteric nature for the good of the community where others were not present to do it. "Why is no one helping me?!?" is one of the inner insights I got into thus true type when they feel oppressed by the burdens of their circumstances. One feels like they almost need to play superhero a little bit just to get basic things done. These basic things of course could be like being the friendly retail worker during the holidays with a ton of work responsibilities they must intelligently manage and look good doing it. Oddly enough the other NFs of its Quadra have it rather easy when it comes to their luck with distribution of work. There were too many experiments data and rules and meditative insights that lead to this aforementioned conclusion on this particular cognitive way of experiencing life. If I am truly wrong and this is too skewed from my own type and experiences then I would need to revise my understanding again, continually refining knowledge.

    Yes as stated in an earlier post, astrological archetypes (I.e. the correct ones) can correspond to the functions and focusing our understanding of them by scientifically viewing their phenomenological nature through many lenses to really get a strong discernment of how they work. Jung was first to write on functions before Isabel Meyers and then Aushra et all. He studied astrology. His cognitive functions perfectly correspond to the fixed signs and mutable signs in Astrology. In fact the zodiac is a Mao of the human mind. Anyway he left out the cardinal signs. That is why there are subtypes for types and why people can get confused in typing wrt IE JP. The data I share on this site is not reporting popular data but what I have personally found to be true. I have studied enough astrology to not necessarily with every published archetypal claim as I take the subject of natal charts rather seriously. But that is another matter.

    So NeFiXi simply means there are flavors of Pisces Leo and Cancer. Pisces is dreamy, Leo is a charismatic leader, and Cancer is security-loving.
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