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    I have read that Ne creatives enjoy creating opportunities for others more than they do for themselves and I think it's true from personal experience. I'm talking about preference, not skill.

    I used to play soccer a lot when I was younger, and I used to prefer the position of a play maker but I wasn't very impressive, just average. But when I reached 15/16 and moved to another team the coach played me as a striker, since I've always felt awkward defending and the striker didn't need to do that. We didn't have a good striker at the time too so he wanted to use me in that position. It felt weird being the focal point of attack and I honestly didn't think I'd enjoy it. My style was actually very close to Messi. I was very self sufficient in terms of setting up myself to score, which is kind of unusual for a striker. And it ended up being one of my best seasons in terms of performance.

    I have a huge preference to play supportive characters in games as well, when in reality I do better in other, more impactful, roles.

    IRL this was something I had to fight internally in my teenage years: my inclination to enjoy spending a lot of time on thinking of how to improve the lives of others, while settling for being average when I think of myself. Then I had a period when I was very selfish and actually improved rapidly. I think, I'm somewhere in between right now. I recognize my passion for improving things/people, but I'm much more picky in terms of whom/what I spend my time on. I'm also able to screen ungrateful people, or someone who is unlikely to change, as I don't like wasting time or not being given credit or appreciated - which I think where Ne hidden agenda comes in to play.

    This is not my theory. I've seen it discussed in some parts elsewhere, "how the creative function of one type interacts with the hidden agenda of their dual". But I wanted to share my personal understanding of it.

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    Numerous opportunities can be equally valuable for Ne creatives. Hence, they may not enjoy creating new opportunities for themselves, since the existing opportunities can already be enough for them. Eventhough, if Ne creatives weren't content with the existing opportunities, they may strugle to create new opportunities for themselves. In order to create a new opportunity or even to leap into an existing opportunity, one must turn it into her/his reality and it could be diffucult because of Se polr. If you want to create an opportunity for yourself, you have to choose one opportunity among others. You have to be decisive and take action. You have to influence things/people. I think that Ne bases are able to leap into opportunites because their Se role supports their base in some sort of sense.


    This sounds like Se polr to me:
    It felt weird being the focal point of attack and I honestly didn't think I'd enjoy it.
    I have huge preferences in order to avoid some sort of things but I rarely have a huge preference in order to seize on. When I was younger, I was more into improving other people's life and I didn't care about improving my own life. I didn't care about the amount of energy and time that I put in order to improve somebody's life. I wasn't fully aware how it reflected upon me. Just a side note, I have always interested about improving myself as well. However, when I was younger, my idea of improving myself was very abstract. I wanted to develop my perspective and my understanding. I believed that if I do that without taking any tangible steps that could be observed from external view, I would know myself better, I would know what I really want to do and my reasons, I could easily be in a place that I wanted to be because of my improved understanding of the world. However, I notice that tangible improvements affects and broadens my view and understanding. So now, I try to not minimize my preferences, wants and wishes. I try to track tangible evidence that shows my improvement.

    I still suggest different ways/opportunities to other people because it comes naturally to me and I enjoy it. However, I don't put my energy and time as much as I used to, that part is up to them. I understand if they don't appreciate it, because maybe it wasn't valuable to them or they may not be ready for that kind of change. Instead, I use my tendency to improve on work related projects, tools and my personal projects. Basically, I try to direct my tendency of improvement on myself.

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    Well sometimes it seems like that they can basically generate something haphazard so that their 4D duals can push through with it.
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