lol yeah that's what I'm starting to think, as well. I come down in the middle of so many of them when reading descriptions.
That's pretty much the impression I had gotten so far lol so tat least there's that?Lol you sound pretty similar to me, again (with a difference for Fe and Si, Fe is lower for me and Si is higher but not terribly high for an LSI).
Your new questionnaire answers are consistent with these test results too.
For Se: Less omnipresent and constant. Like you said, more on/off. Applied when I need it as opposed to a default mode of operation.Now what I think would be useful is if you fleshed out in everyday words as to what it means "have stronger Fe than typical LSI'".
Weaker Se, I think I know what you mean there, about your dislike of excessive materialism. Or anything else you had in mind here?
For Fe: More expressive. More effort trying to get things to be laid back and have fun.
Dunno how things are over there but politically in America things (while I was growing up) got sorted either into two different kinds of bundled ways of thinking. For a very long time in the ideological wilderness it was spent trying to double down and define and adhere to a more consistent "true" system from some central principles of one of those two ways of thinking. A lot of it was coming to conclusions that are dog shit and I didn't really like/agree with but bit my tongue going "Well, that's how this stupid principle plays out so I guess that's how it is." About 6 years spent going down different rabbit holes trying to force my positions into unrealistic and stupid frameworks based on abstract and unworkable principles that result in completely repellent conclusions (eg. the "non-aggression principle" leading to complete atomism and social apathy to abusive practices by people or groups, shrugging off the life expectancy falling among my people due to suicide and drug abuse because "that's not my problem," and thinking that things are necessarily better because I can buy more cheap plastic shit from china for less this year than last year).Random q from earlier stuff, you said "As for me when I stopped trying to pidgeonhole what I should believe or support into another person's framework and said "fuck it" it came as a huge relief and made a lot of topics a lot more fun."
How did that happen btw, that you stopped?
That stopped when I gave less of a shit about consistency and stuck more with just what I think is true or right, and had a minor realization that I was doing a lot of that ideological wandering because I wanted some sort of "us" or team to be on to struggle against the other team. A collective purpose and meaning to belong to and work for.
More or less, yeah. There are so many possibilities for what might work and meticulously going through each and every one makes me want to pull my hair out more each time it doesn't work. Then in the back of my mine my I know my LII or ILE co-worker would likely see the potential likely alternative almost immediately. That process of sorting through myriad potentialities is like pulling teeth.Haha, because you need the zen state to do the patient poking for hours? (Or?)
lol I was getting that impression when answering the questions. I was wondering if someone was going to jump in and say ESI because of that.I do think this theme of you paying attention to what's right and wrong is strong and consistent.
It's one of the main things that keeps me focused on LSI>SLE for you. It being far more characteristic of a Ti lead type (or Ij in general).
lol yeah the only time I have any creativity is within appropriate jokes. lucky meAnd then these things also for LSI>SLE, lower Ne and Fe.
(And yeah, I'm sure I already said that I 1000% relate to these traits.)
1D Fe rather than 2D Fe (weaker), since you are more selective..
Been told all my life I'm an opinionated dick lol coming to conclusions I'll argue over on a subject I've only just learned about.Trouble with disparate preferences/assumptions sounds Ne PoLR/Rational/Ti
Gotcha, thanks for the clarification. Last time it got really bad in a case of getting nasty with someone was a person I was pretty friendly with attacking some things that mean a lot to me, in a way/perspective that is completely repulsive to me, so it turned into a couple hours of attacking each other leading to attacking him with personal private information just to shut him up. Still feel kind of bad about that. Other times it might be throwing out an idea and getting a really antagonistic response from someone I think was pretty alright, and the response is just to wash my hands, go "shit, I thought you were cool. Guess not" and cut them out.I see this as far more Fe DS than Fe HA. Fe HA would be less black and white and less passive with managing the manifestations of the relationship. Fe HA basically can try and use emotional expressions and explicitly affirmative/etc Fe talks rather than just cut them off in a black and white way emotionally.
The black and white attitude emotionally and the passivity in terms of emotional "manipulation" of the relationship applies even if there is effort made to repair the relationship (say if it was an important enough relationship etc).
And of course Fe HA can also cut people off but you really just wrote about passive avoidance and black-white judging.
Thanks lol people that treat the very idea of exclusive definitions or valuations as innately immoral drive me up the walls.Great point re: discernment![]()
I love sound clips, videos, personal interactions etc. where someone can speak in a rousing and emotionally evocative way, cut through a lot of bullshit and clearly say "this is what matters, and is worth moving mountains and giving everything for." There are a lot of quotes from saints and early 20th century politicians that have that effect, and I can never get enough of it.Say more on this.
lmao yeah I only realized it after a few college course as an (initially) history major and realized memorizing facts like dates and names and places was the last thing I was interested in. I liked learning that W led to X which led to Y because of ZSeems like a bit of an actively independent use of Ni. I have the same btw lol (tho' history for me wasn't my fav. This actually makes me feel like you have stronger Ni than I do lol. Not hard to achieve that accomplishment tho'...)
lol yeh buddyAgain hell yeah
I don't want to strictly link this on its own to type because other things affect sense of responsibility too, but you do seem way more consistently focused on duties than any Exxp would be. It's an approach most natural for Ixxjs.
Yeah hard to say for certain cause there was a lot of bullying and boys raised by single mothers have a strong tendency towards avoidant behavior when not totally antisocial, but I'm inclined to agree with you here.Quite strong indication of introversion. I.e. your default response to stress was with an introverted, not an extraverted orientation. Ofcourse big stress I'm sure can affect extraverted types to the degree of turning introverted-ish. But I get the sense that for you it's the default approach.
lmao it's not standard practice for an IxxJ to let people spend 3 hours trying to talk him/her into committing a felony against the national government?You went overly conscientious there even for Ixxj lol.![]()
So you're saying Se/Fe is "do fun, dumb, impulsive shit?" lol : PI see this as quite Ti/Ni>Se/Fe.
Yeah it's not that often I get that fed up and impulsive but it's been known to happen when I get to the point of "I'm just so done with this shit"Okay just to not sound entirely monotone about your typing lol, this is Se for sure in this case (not that I'm saying this is SLE specific. Se creative is able to get impulsive and even brash too).
Going back to the references to Discrete Mathematics, if "People" = the Universe of discrete elements (people) I view people more in terms of "peoples" in separate sets and in subsetsOut of curiosity, multiple wholes...?
Say for example in the graph below the Union of all equals "People" but the "Rational" circle is instead "Asians" and then "Integers" is Chinese and "Whole" is Han Chinese and "natural" is some smaller subset. "Irrational" might just be "non-Asian people" or "Europeans" (with their own unlisted subsets) with the empty space being "non-Asian & non-European peoples."
Talking about "people" as a single whole is not something I do. It's a set so broad to be almost meaningless, outside of a very basic taxonomic sense, where it's the assumed universe/context when talking about anything social or typological. Talking about "people as a whole" feels tautological and useless.
But there are multiple distinct peoples where the definitions are proximate and meaningful enough to consider and address.
Interesting. Is that because of the non-materialism? Because indecision is something that tends to get me screaming at traffic or getting somewhat rude and short with people.Bit more Se creative than Se lead if these are the two options.
Yeah I respond well enough to surprises I think, but it's more of a reaction like "oh, okay. This is something new that I need to take care of/deal with and get back to what I was up to"Not very into Ep-like change (though ofcourse Ne is better at this than Se)



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