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    I know this is like a shot in the dark, but i have a mild fascination with this figure. What type might they be? Thanks.

    (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Michael_(archangel) )
    "Inasmuch as it is nothing but pure communicability, every face, even the most noble and beautiful, is always suspended on the edge of an abyss"

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    types are only about real people
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    types are only about real people
    Fictional characters usually have types because they are modeled on real people.

    Archetypal figures like deities, angels, demons, heroes, etc represent an idea and thus aeren't likely to have types, no.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    Fictional characters usually have types because they are modeled on real people.
    Usually, a fictional character is a free mix of qualities and because of this has no clear type. It may only remind some of them.

    Also an author without knowledge of types is doubtful to describe real human or create new fantasy character so it could related clearly to some Jung's type. An author is doubtful to have even such task, if he'd knew good types theory.

    Besides it's doubtful clearly to type a character even of he'd was made as a copy of real human, an author knew about types and tried to make him to fit in them, as the behavior is under influence of many factors and the known about the character is rather limited (mostly there is no even nonverbal). This mb understood by how differently people are typed by biographies and even questionnaires. It's possibly to interpret the same info to different types.

    All this makes typing of characters as not more than a game of associations.
    Only in case a character is an intentional and _close_ copy of the real human, or an author knows the typology and tried to fit a character to it - this can be thought as more than just a game. Where we do not know for sure about those cases, - such is in general, - the characters typing is just speculations for a fun.

    Only types of real people can be assumed seriously.

    > Archetypal figures like deities, angels, demons, heroes, etc represent an idea and thus aeren't likely to have types, no.

    You claim that "deities, angels, demons, heroes" represent a single idea and this idea can be related to one type only.
    Your thinking is too metaphorical and speculative to have Te as your base function.
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    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    Fictional characters usually have types because they are modeled on real people.

    Archetypal figures like deities, angels, demons, heroes, etc represent an idea and thus aeren't likely to have types, no.
    Don't you think that figures that represent an idea *might* also represent an archetype? That said, I have seen figures like Jesus typed on here so thought i'd give this a try. Of course what might be possible to do is pick a version of the figure that might have been represented in some literature and type that rather than a very generic idea of a figure such as what i started doing.
    "Inasmuch as it is nothing but pure communicability, every face, even the most noble and beautiful, is always suspended on the edge of an abyss"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Don't you think that figures that represent an idea *might* also represent an archetype? That said, I have seen figures like Jesus typed on here so thought i'd give this a try. Of course what might be possible to do is pick a version of the figure that might have been represented in some literature and type that rather than a very generic idea of a figure such as what i started doing.
    I think an idea and an archtetype is something very similar, but didn't Jung say that the archetype was "beyond type"? He said that if I remember correctly.

    Yeah, I think the way a figure is represented for example in literature might be better than trying to type the idea of the figure, because writers can project some human qualities onto their charachters, including the non-human ones.
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    fictional humans are one thing, but human psychology in the jungian sense is related to "the fall" into differentiation. technically angels exist outside that, although they may actually be symbols of something else

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    It is very interesting to me that He is depicted weighing souls and, frequently, holding scales. It does remind one of the law. Does this tell us anything about *possible* associations with a type?
    "Inasmuch as it is nothing but pure communicability, every face, even the most noble and beautiful, is always suspended on the edge of an abyss"

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    perhaps, if you think of law as impartial mechanism.. you could say angels are automatons preceding the knowledge of good and evil i.e.: possessed of free will and choice... thus they are like beautiful machines.. the deus ex machina

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