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    Silvio Berlusconi (Italian pronunciation: [ˈsilvjo berluˈskoːni] ; born 29 September 1936) is an Italian media tycoon and politician who has served as Prime Minister of Italy in four governments.

    Berlusconi is the controlling shareholder of Mediaset and owned the Italian football club A.C. Milan from 1986 to 2017. He is nicknamed Il Cavaliere (The Knight) for his Order of Merit for Labour, although he voluntarily resigned from this order in March 2014.[2] In 2017, Forbes magazine ranked him as the 199th richest man in the world with a net worth of US$7.0 billion.[3][4] In 2009, Forbes ranked him 12th in the List of The World's Most Powerful People due to his domination of Italian politics, throughout more than twenty years at the head of the centre-right coalition.

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    Berlusconi was the first person to assume the premiership without prior government or administrative; moreover he is worldwide famous for his populist political style and brash, overbearing personality.
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    Extravert is clear as witnessed in his many enterprises (lots of them corrupt, apparently) and energy levels. The rest I am still considering, his populism does really cloud everything else...Hm. Maybe i'll post back later
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    I always thought he came off LSE-Te.


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    ENFJ
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    He shows typical weakness of betas. Just like mr trump.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    I always thought he came off LSE-Te.
    No way he is a Te dom. He is a clear Se dom. He could be SLE, but he seems to be really good at Fi in the way Fi creatives are...they quickly build alliances even with the weirdest guys.

    Some SEE men who are active in business build a kind of LSE external image. However their day-to-day life, decisions, behavior and so on is quite different from LSEs.

    Some of his weird comments can be considered normal in Italy in some circles.

    Personally I don´t like his internal politics at all (I am Italian btw and lived in Italy until 2011), which favored a strong cryonism aimed at favoring uncompetitive business who favored votes for mr. B., but I liked the way he interpreted foreign politics in a way that made us somewhat independent from Germany and the EU.
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    Conqurering attitude: that is like Trump. If that it itself is not SEE (-D) stuff I don't know what is.
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    ESE > EIE

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    He shows typical weakness of betas. Just like mr trump.
    Yep, SLE-Ti same as Trump.

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    Berlu and Trump have a very similar background, both started making monies in the building industry, then turned to TV industry and then turned to politics. Both have a similar history cheating and being married to multiple hot women... and both have gained political consensus by promoting a populist campaign where they'd become the image of a new era, the self made man who can do wtv he wants coz of moneis.

    But despite these very striking similarities they have a pretty different way of presenting themselves:
    Berlu min 1.26



    Berlusconi's personality is very humorous, he got a fame for cracking the most stupid jokes everytime, but he always does that with a smile on his face, thinking he will be more pleasent in this way, he's well obsessed with Si overall, even the political ideas he had for Italy were somehow of "pampering" the population and give them what would make them feel good here and now, he definitely missed a farsighted plan, although with his money he managed to achieve his long term goals.

    I don't see Trump as similar in this sense, the jokes he cracks are just boastful to make himself look like this powerful, womanizer guy, there's no real sense of pampering in Trump's agenda, and there's not the same smile on their faces.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    ESE > EIE
    How does Berlusconi represent the alpha quadra?
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    Quote Originally Posted by FDG View Post
    How does Berlusconi represent the alpha quadra?
    I don't keep quadras in regard tbh. Btw he's been promoting a somewhat new kind of politics for Italy, if you consider the pc (dc/psi) politics of the times; he's been the main promoter of a new television/propaganda too, and has taken under his wings all the things he cared directly for, like Milan, trying to improve them; then he has distributed all his goods among his family members, with good accusations of conflict of interest and nepotism.

    ESE is the most traditionalist in the Alpha quadra, I don't think it's too random to place Berlu in there. But all of this doesn't make me right anyway, and Idk what type Berlu is at the end of the day, maybe he's just the umpteenth SLE nazi politician, fitting all the stereotypes of the evil Beta quadra.

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    No site gets everything right, and I know MBTI doesn't translate perfectly into Socionics classification, but here's IDR Labs (Site Michael Pierce contributes to), but I'll leave their take (Main article, and expanded quotes, respectively) on Silvio Berlusconi, for those interested:

    Silvio 2.jpgSilvio 1.jpg

    SLE does indeed seem fitting.

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    Berlusconi: "Only Napoleon did more than I have done. But I am definitely taller."

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    Just some random facts about him:

    He was president of Milan, one of the strongest italian football teams. He had a habit of calling the trainer on the phone before matches, to tell him what he should do. He had pretty clear ideas about what he wanted: beautiful football.
    He used to force his footballers to be clean and tidy: those with messy beards had to keep them in order. In the last years he also seemed to have a desire to build a team full of italian players.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    I always thought he came off LSE-Te.
    In light of the new information about Berlusconi that has come in I'm changing my typing of him to dom.

    He has been compared to Trump who is usually typed as dom and who I type as SLE.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Luminous Lynx View Post
    Berlusconi: "Only Napoleon did more than I have done. But I am definitely taller."

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    I don´t see the Ti in him at all. Why do you guys think he´s a thinking type?
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    Do not overestimate SLE people skills...

    Anyways SLE would be inclined to set up a system like Lenin [treat him as SLE benchmark] did...
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Do not overestimate SLE people skills...
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    Well Berlusconi lacks thinking skills when it comes to his own behavior.

    Tito (ex Jugoslavia) was probably a SLE as comparison.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    Anyways SLE would be inclined to set up a system like Lenin
    he could be also LIE

    Quote Originally Posted by Avebury View Post
    He has been compared to Trump who is usually typed as dom and who I type as SLE.
    mb because the both have EIE
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    He bought a new football team the last year. His first interview:

    "We have a particular project in mind: only young italians, with their hairstyle in order. Without beard, tattoos and piercings. Our players will respect other players and referees, will give fans autographs and will walk around dressed in a proper ways: something different from modern football."

    He has (since a couple of years) plans about handling his political party to Urbano Cairo, an enterpreneur who also has tv channels, journals and a football team. He stricly rejects all requests of democracy inside his party.

    I actually would type him as EIE. He lacks the sheer use of force of Se leads. He's actually very smooth and manipulates Se stuff with his charisma and humoristic character.

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    LIE. Also, his Te is rather obvious

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