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    John David McAfee (/ˈmækəfiː/MAK-ə-fee;born September 18, 1945) is a British-American computer programmer and businessman. He founded the software company McAfee Associates in 1987 and ran it until 1994, when he resigned from the company. McAfee Associates achieved early success as the creators of McAfee, the first commercial antivirus software, and the business now produces a range of enterprise security software. The company was renamed to Intel Security in 2011 after being purchased by Intel, though the software still retains the McAfee brand name. McAfee's wealth peaked in 2007 at $100 million, before his investments plummeted in the global financial crisis that began that year.
    He is also a political activist who sought the Libertarian Party nomination for President of the United States in the 2016 election, losing to former New Mexico governor Gary Johnson. McAfee also has interests in smartphone apps, cryptocurrency, yoga, and all-natural antibiotics. He resided for a number of years in Belize, but after being suspected of ordering the murder of his neighbor Greg Faull, he left Belize for Guatemala and later returned to the United States in 2013.
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    I get a Gamma impression from him, something like SEE sx/so the 'fireside' strong sx subtype (3w4?).



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    I believe EIE-Ni. I do agree with sx 3w4 for enneagram though.

    SEE is interesting, but he doesn't come off grounded in reality enough. He actually comes off quite idiosyncratic and imaginative (). He's also a programmer, into cyber security, crypto, and conspiracy theories, all of which are fairly . Gulenko described EIE as the type most likely to be a "genius". They are usually superb programmers for some reason.


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    He is trying to be entertaining and to cultivate an image of an eccentric, but he is going about it in all the conventional ways. I wouldn't say there is anything particularly imaginative about hookers and blow. Programmers come from various backgrounds and don't have to be EIEs.

    The things that he says, however, completely violate the requirements for loyalty in LSI-EIE dyad:


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    John McAfee - INFJ - Dostoyevsky (Photo was taken in 1989)


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    All things combined about him points towards ENTj-Te.



    Here is a comparison with a fictional ENTj

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    I think Jack London should be changed to John McAfee. If this dude is not a dominant subtype I do not what makes one a dominant subtype.
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    yeah he's a LIE. his unorthodox and rather bizarre behaviour make me lean towards a creative subtype, though.

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    Quote Originally Posted by soundofconfusion View Post
    yeah he's a LIE. his unorthodox and rather bizarre behaviour make me lean towards a creative subtype, though.
    He rallies new adventures by connecting people in immediate environment . That is what dominant does. Creative is interested in mental creation by ignoring environment.

    Dominant subtype is supposedly the most closely related to antisocial personality traits. Substance abuse is especially common if they fail and if they do not they have probably gotten to the top by using methods that are highly questionable.
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    fair enough. I haven't read much about him in a while so I can't really say more.

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    ohh wow what a badass

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    Probably Ne-ILE

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    idk all i see is al pacino

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    I watched the documentary. My impression is Creative-Dominant. Hard to decide. Usually Dominants have a "warm" "connecting" "intensive" air about them, but McAfee matches more the Creative dullness / disconnectedness (even though Action is never far away). But I can't really decided.
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    He's creative, I'd say.

    Quote Originally Posted by COVID 007 View Post
    He rallies new adventures by connecting people in immediate environment . That is what dominant does. Creative is interested in mental creation by ignoring environment.
    I know this quote is old, so bear with me.

    Does he do that though? Connect people in the immediate environment? From what I know of him, he seems pretty focused in his mind. He doesn't seem double dynamic, but I could wrong.

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    I still think EIE for his type. I guess I could see LIE but he does seem to value Ti over Te. Especially wrt to his love of conspiracy theories. Most of these conspiracies are likely true, since they concern his own political situation. He's not crazy. He's interested in information that isn't publically available for political reasons, and that seems EIE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    He is trying to be entertaining and to cultivate an image of an eccentric, but he is going about it in all the conventional ways. I wouldn't say there is anything particularly imaginative about hookers and blow. Programmers come from various backgrounds and don't have to be EIEs.

    The things that he says, however, completely violate the requirements for loyalty in LSI-EIE dyad:


    This quote (and yes, I know it's old, bear with me, I just felt like reviving this thread) - is he talking about his current marriage? He's basically saying he's in an open marriage/relationship - this doesn't go against beta rational values because he owns up to it, it's part of the relationship. There is nothing in socionics that says beta rationals have to have a trad catholic view of relationships or whatever. If, of course, that's what the quote is referring to.

    Also, I am not saying all programmers are EIE, obviously. But being a programmer seems an unusual professional choice for an SEE, at least.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Uncle Ave View Post
    He's creative, I'd say.



    I know this quote is old, so bear with me.

    Does he do that though? Connect people in the immediate environment? From what I know of him, he seems pretty focused in his mind. He doesn't seem double dynamic, but I could wrong.

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    I still think EIE for his type. I guess I could see LIE but he does seem to value Ti over Te. Especially wrt to his love of conspiracy theories. Most of these conspiracies are likely true, since they concern his own political situation. He's not crazy. He's interested in information that isn't publically available for political reasons, and that seems EIE.

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    This quote (and yes, I know it's old, bear with me, I just felt like reviving this thread) - is he talking about his current marriage? He's basically saying he's in an open marriage/relationship - this doesn't go against beta rational values because he owns up to it, it's part of the relationship. There is nothing in socionics that says beta rationals have to have a trad catholic view of relationships or whatever. If, of course, that's what the quote is referring to.

    Also, I am not saying all programmers are EIE, obviously. But being a programmer seems an unusual professional choice for an SEE, at least.
    Hmm.. EIE could be interesting but bit weird especially how he connects to the world around him. He is an odd case anyway.
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    LIE, the entrepreneur start up type. Jack, always fucking off with the money and then crawling back.

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    I guess the other route people want to go with is McCafee chasing windmills. I just don't think this guy needs Mellisa MacCarthy to dualize with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by silke View Post
    I get a Gamma impression from him, something like SEE sx/so the 'fireside' strong sx subtype (3w4?).


    The way he breaks his past gf list down is Fi dual seeking as fuck. God they are so dumb. "Feel sorry for me, sycophants, for all my relationship mishaps".

    The guns and those frosted tips say bad Si and valued Se. "I'm such a bad ass"

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    The guy is way too much of a showman to be Te valuing. I thought ILE before but if you read his Twitter feed he's extremely paranoid and into conspiracy theories. EIE would be the other option.

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    John McAfee committed a suicide


    He lived an active life all over the globe, pioneered in antivirus (by spreading a virus). He committed a suicide because he couldn't roam around free doing business and puffing up his ego through video sites while being 75 years old. This one alone fits within LIE profile, 110 %.
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDemonSheep96 View Post
    John McAfee committed a suicide
    Who are you working for?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aleph View Post
    Who are you working for?
    Well, I don't talk about my LIE slaying business here.
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    EIE

    and considering his political activism he was more than likely murdered, ya
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    Quote Originally Posted by BrightDemonSheep96 View Post
    John McAfee committed a suicide


    He lived an active life all over the globe, pioneered in antivirus (by spreading a virus). He committed a suicide because he couldn't roam around free doing business and puffing up his ego through video sites while being 75 years old. This one alone fits within LIE profile, 110 %.
    But muh deep state


    I love that people are theorizing McAfee antivirus. The absolutely shittiest antivurs ever created . Was able to retain any sort of sensitive info from pcs.

    Also he's LIE


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    idk all i see is al pacino
    Maybe if he had fucked Tony Robins and givem him a baby this is how it would look

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    I have always had an irrational and intense love for this man. He's a storybook swashbuckler come to life
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    McAfee didn't uninstall itself.
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    Quote Originally Posted by FreelancePoliceman View Post
    McAfee didn't uninstall itself.
    Because it didn't leave any additional crapware in the cell? Clean format?
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    Quote Originally Posted by AWellArmedCat View Post
    I have always had an irrational and intense love for this man. He's a storybook swashbuckler come to life
    When I first saw his videos, I thought he was an SLE-Ti, but LIE works, too.

    SLE and LIE have similarly-dimensioned T and F functions. 4D Te, 3D Ti, 2D Fe and 1D Fi. It's in the S and N functions that they differ, and I'd say that while I think McAfee valued Ti, I also think that @valhalla's post #19, where he saw Se-HA, is an accurate description of the man.

    McAfee once said he only feels safe with a gun in each hand, which brings to mind the old Pirate captains who wanted freedom from the British Empire and set up their own democratic society in the Caribbean, and this says LIE to me.

    On the other hand, I happen to know a guy who looks and acts a lot like McAfee, except that he's not paranoid, and I type the guy SLE-Ti.

    For me, it could go either way, at least until I get more evidence.
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    @Adam Strange yeah I think what you're saying makes a lot of sense. My gut reaction was that he was SLE-Ti just because I feel drawn to him similarly to how I feel drawn to my dual, but I could definitely see LIE as well. Se being HA definitely seems likely to me too
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    ILI. I see programmers mostly as introverts and people with disgusting fetishes like his (e.g. pay prostitutes for scat) primarily as introverted and irrational. Clearly, he is a gamma though, strongly Te-valuing. He died hanging himself after being wanted for murder, which seems completely detached from reality and self-contradictory because he is going to die anyways if he gets caught for murder, why bring the ignominy and self-betrayal of hanging himself on himself? Also, why murder someone to begin with?

    And this is why instead of getting McAfee Security you should just install Linux, aside from Bill Gates likely being an even worse person and Windows simply not working properly.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    John McAfee committed a suicide


    He lived an active life all over the globe, pioneered in antivirus (by spreading a virus). He committed a suicide because he couldn't roam around free doing business and puffing up his ego through video sites while being 75 years old. This one alone fits within LIE profile, 110 %.
    Pretty disrespectful and flippant post, tbh. I hope your end is as warm as you are making McAfees out to be. I also think its odd that he suicided following his tweets against the vaccine.

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