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    Typing Julio Cortázar

    Julio Cortázar was a surrealist Argentine author who spent the majority of his adult years living in Paris. He was enamored with the notion of transforming the banal into the mysterious and ultimately the meaningful in his literature, tending to focus in on small details and using them as a vehicle to reveal profound points of deliberation among characters that ultimately revealed their psychological tension. He extensively focused on romance, and how it played out in the world of the 21st century, and embraced his identity as an Argentine of mixed background who had emigrated to France, claiming that this mix was inspiring and one of "the best things that could happen" to people. His most famous novel is Rayuela or Hopscotch in English, which is a story of two South American emigrants to France (one from Uruguay and one from Argentina) who toil with love, dispassion, and a philosophical circle that seems unable to reach any definite conclusions. The main character in this novel seems to me to be a clear ILI, and there are many indications that this story was autobiographical to Cortázar, once again using his technique of turning the mundane, the lived and the normal into something more mythological and mysterious. Speaking in terms of the enneagram, it seems obvious he would have been a 4w5 and some combination of Sp and Sx.

    The Russians have typed him as an EIE, and I can certainly see the reasoning for this. I believe the temptation would be to type him IEI, but he seems very clearly not T inferior upon reading his novels (Rayuela was so intricately structured that it could be read in two ways to reveal two different stories). He also seems to be a dialectical thinker:

    "Andábamos sin buscarnos, pero sabiendo que andábamos para buscarnos."
    Translation: "We went along without searching for ourselves, but knowing that we went along to search for ourselves."

    "In quoting others, we cite ourselves." (Maybe this will be of interest to those of us who are on this site).

    He also seems to have a strong vested belief in the importance of forces which control humans and simply are apparitions one must accept (something akin to the Nietzschian Amor Fati I might say). This can be found here:

    "“What most people call loving consists of picking out a woman and marrying her. They pick her out, I swear, I’ve seen them. As if you could pick in love, as if it were not a lightning bolt that splits your bones and leaves you staked out in the middle of the courtyard. They probably say that they pick her out because-they-love-her, I think it’s just the siteoppo. Beatrice wasn’t picked out, Juliet wasn’t picked out. You don’t pick out the rain that soaks you to a skin when you come out of a concert.”

    "“All profound distraction opens certain doors. You have to allow yourself to be distracted when you are unable to concentrate.”

    "Come sleep with me: We won't make Love, Love will make us.”

    Most of all, these statements seem to scream Ip temperament and a strong use of intuition. His statements do also drip with strong and confident emotion:

    "“I sometimes longed for someone who, like me, had not adjusted perfectly with his age, and such a person was hard to find; but I soon discovered cats, in which I could imagine a condition like mine, and books, where I found it quite often.”

    Anyhow, he is a very interesting character and I don't believe he fits well into any socionics type mold...among others I might consider: ILI, EIE, IEI, EII, and LII as most likely types.

    For those who speak Spanish an interview can be found here:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_FDRIPMKHQg&t=332s



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    Julio Cortázar - ISFJ - Dreiser


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    No idea about his type, but he was an awesome writer.

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    Yeah I think EII too. He looks very deltish and rational, and since he's not LSE he's EII.

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    Yeah I think EII too. He looks very deltish and rational, and since he's not LSE he's EII.
    I could see EII. I'm not sure how anyone would get ESI...his plots are rather completely inert and go on long trances into the moment that lack almost any physical stimulus (you could even use this as an argument for Se inferior.)

    Anyhow, his writing does feel Deltaish...very microcosmic, focused on interpersonal relations and how they can do what society would never allow one to (a distinct lack of Beta I guess we would then say).

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