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    Late night post. I fell asleep for 3 hours in the early evening. Tired out by the Dr G Left vs Right Spinners hangout done on June 23rd 2018. Didn't get much sleep in prepping for that. You can see that hangout here as part of the 21 vids in the Victor/Viktor Gulenko hangout series on my channel. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qAZT...jAODE&index=21

    UPDATE: LATER ON, I'LL POST CLOSE SHOTS SHOWING ONE BLOCK* AT A TIME SO THE TEXT IS MORE READABLE.

    * = eg Inflation-Avoidance block contains the Brake (POLR) and Control (Ignoring) positions.
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    Updated Model G explanation:

    The first vid in this list is going thru a simplified NiTx infographic (but it's quite good for explaining things roughly) with Dario Nardi. I ask him about the unvalued functions and intertype relations in his personal experience. He gave good answers about his research.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bHJD..._ht4TK&index=1

    VG #5 explaining the Model back in 2015:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lJaX...UNCbndTcDjAODE

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    Model G Explanation - Ben's branch - Mk 1.06.jpg
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    Ti- Nx ie LII ''Analyst''
    A video with David Mark Keirsey PhD. Dr G typed him as LII. The Keirsey INTP Architect profile (written by his father ie David West Keirsey) is based on David West by mainly on David Mark the computer scientist. The first hour is he talking about his education and career then we go thru the model.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=toOt...QqkL6QKiqzs7iF

    If 4 hours is too much Ti- Nx for you, the 1 hour "in a coconut shell" explanation is also in that Ti- Nx playlist at the top.

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    TiNx (INTP) Model G profile in English (Maria K's translation) Mk 4.jpg
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    Ne+ Tx ie ILE ''Seeker''

    Going thru this profile with Jo the robot builder and rower in a recent "in a coconutshell" video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QYpp...sWur6gu-Ly5WvK
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    NeTx (ENTP) Model G ILE profile in English (Maria K's translation).jpg
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    Ni- Tx ie ILI ''Critic''
    Going thru the first function with Hailey. Will add to this playlist. NiTx will be covered position by position.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ll03..._ht4TK&index=2

    NiTx (INTJ) ''Critic'' Model G profile [Maria's additions removed].jpg

    VIDEO OF DR G COMPARING LII AND ILI:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9ttG...jAODE&index=18

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    Te+ Nx ie LIE "Entrepreneur"

    In the pipeline. Comparison to Keirsey ENTJ marked up with Model G.

    TeNx cf Rational Fieldmarshal (ENTJ) 1 of 4 (p196).jpg TeNx cf Rational Fieldmarshal (ENTJ) 2 of 4 (p197).jpg TeNx cf Rational Fieldmarshal (ENTJ) 3 of 4 (p198).jpg image #4 of 4 is in my next post in this thread. I bumped up against the 20 image limit.

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    Fe- Nx ie EIE "Mentor"

    VIDEO OF DR G COMPARING EIE AND IEE:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wiwi...jAODE&index=19

    Going thru all the profile in this video on ******'s personality type:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YhXc...7HmAoy&index=4

    FeNx (ENFJ) based on XL template - English.jpg

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    Ni+ Fx ie IEI "Lyric [Poet]"

    VIDEO OF DR G COMPARING IEI AND EII:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=If7a...jAODE&index=17

    IEI coconutshell:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1tD...Z_CHLBMGK9kNkQ

    A video going thru it with Michael Pierce is also in that playlist.

    NiFx (INFJ) Model G profile in English (Maria's translation) Mk 3.jpg

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    Ne- Fx ie IEE "Adviser"

    See link above [in EIE section] for comparison to EIE. It's good to compare this profile to the Keirsey ENFP profile marked up with Model G to show the tension between Creative Fe and Demonstrative Fi.

    8 videos with Carol Linden (typology professional in USA) going thru this profile:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tz2J...VS82NRAH09od5Z

    NeFx (ENFP) Model G profile Mk 5 in English (translated by Lena A) (based on XL template).jpg Ne- Fx cf Idealist Champion (ENFP) 1 of 3 (PUM 2 p155).jpg Ne- Fx cf Idealist Champion (ENFP) 2 of 3 (PUM 2 p156).jpg Ne- Fx cf Idealist Champion (ENFP) 3 of 3 (PUM 2 p157).jpg

    I go thru the Keirsey ENFP profile (marked up with Model G to highlight commonalities) with RGS here.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lVp9...09od5Z&index=2

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    Fi- Nx ie EII "Humanist"

    See IEI section for Dr G comparison vid of IEI cf EII.

    This is the start of the playlist:
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mLmF...RG7gmiivm6zMSG

    No CG graphic yet. Just this. I was helped by an ILI resembler to do the computer graphics. I have the template. I just need a nicely translated profile to plug in.

    FiNx (INFP) #2 (BY HAND PROFILE) ''Humanist'' Model G scan #2 (300 DPI HP printer scan 2015-04B.jpg

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    Se- Tx ie SLE "Marshal"

    In the pipeline.

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    L+ S- ie LSI "Inspector"

    As you would expect, an MBTI XSTP resembler not connecting to the lead Ti+ in this profile. But Jeff is good in the video.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-qgh...bI_a5AJn5-JnRj

    TiSx (LSI) Model G profile in English (Lena A's Translation) (based on XL template).jpg

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    Se+ Fx ie SEE "Politician"

    8 vids on the SEE with Jeff.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Onmf...RiwDrq-XJSx-zP

    SeFx (ESFP) Model G profile in English (Maria K's translation).jpg

    Keirsey ESFP Performer profile graphic to show (what I classify as) the Fe Creative quotes from the Keirsey profile.

    SeFx ie Artisan ESFP KTT (Mk 2) model positions 1, 2, and 5 (HP scanned on 2015-Aug-16).jpg

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    R- S+ ie ESI "Guardian"

    2 Video playlist going thru the Social Mission block.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N-Cd...0ix-MH&index=1

    FiSx (ESI) Model G profile in English (translated by Lena A) (baed on XL template).jpg

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    Te- Sx ie LSE "Administrator"

    No vids on this type yet. Suggest you read this Keirsey ESTJ profile marked up in comparison to LSE.


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    S+ L- ie SLI "Master"

    VID WHERE DR G COMPARES SEI AND SLI (AND WE GO THRU FARRAH'S EEG DATA)

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dO7S...jAODE&index=20

    SiTx (SLI) Model G profile in English (Lena, Google Translate & Elena interpretation) (based on .jpg

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    Si- Fx ie SEI "Mediator"

    Comparing SEI to EII.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JCg_...dkgRhk&index=1

    SiFx (SEI) #2 (BY HAND PROFILE) ''Dumas'' Model G scan #2 (300 DPI scan by HP printer on 2015-04.jpg

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    awesome

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    Here is the final part of the Keirsey marked-up with Model G ENTJ profile. I was limited to 20 images in the original post. TeNx cf Rational Fieldmarshal (ENTJ) 4 of 4 (p199).jpg

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    Keirsey ESTP marked up with Model G esp the Fi Brake parts.

    SeTx cf Artisan Promoter (ESTP) 1 of 4.jpg SeTx cf Artisan Promoter (ESTP) 2 of 4.jpg SeTx cf Artisan Promoter (ESTP) 3 of 4.jpg SeTx cf Artisan Promoter (ESTP) 4 of 4.jpg

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    Keirsey ESTJ Supervisor marked-up with Model G esp to show the Creative Se+.

    TeSx cf Guardian Superviser (ESTJ) 1 of 4 (p104).jpg TeSx cf Guardian Superviser (ESTJ) 2 of 4 (p105).jpg TeSx cf Guardian Superviser (ESTJ) 3 of 4 (p106).jpg TeSx cf Guardian Superviser (ESTJ) 4 of 4 (p107).jpg

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    Keirsey ESFJ Provider Supplier marked-up with Model G showing commonalities.

    FeSx cf Guardian Provider (ESFJ) 1 of 3 (p110).jpg FeSx cf Guardian Provider (ESFJ) 2 of 3 (p111).jpg FeSx cf Guardian Provider (ESFJ) 3 of 3 (p112).jpg

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    Keirsey ENTP marked-up to show commonalities with Model G

    NeTx cf Rational Inventor (ENTP) 1 of 4.jpg NeTx cf Rational Inventor (ENTP) 2 of 4 (p202).jpg NeTx cf Rational Inventor (ENTP) 3 of 4 (p203).jpg NeTx cf Rational Inventor (ENTP) 4 of 4 (p204).jpg
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    But this would imply different ITR, would it?

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    Ben, A lot of info to go through, thank you for posting it all here.

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    My own impression is that I can clearly identify myself in many aspects of all the process types (In fact I prefer "artificial"/process aspects of all IME's).

    Anyways bullet points tend to be bit too general for personal typing purposes. Probably this kind discretization serves more result types.

    So when it comes to conflicting aspects I can clearly detect my distaste towards result R, result T and result F.
    More specifically (wtf) points that shows conflict:

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    Quote Originally Posted by falsehope View Post
    But this would imply different ITR, would it?
    The intertype relations are the same. I've read a human translated article by Dr G on the intertype relations. You can see the ones done so fare in this playlist. Where we go thru the text. We've done Identical, Kindred, Mirror, and Supervision so far. I aim to get back to this series. However we have a lot of typological irons in the fire.

    Over 3 hours of depth and trangenting on the Supervision relationship.
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3idJ...UTyZ4f&index=1
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    Quote Originally Posted by Troll Nr 007 View Post
    My own impression is that I can clearly identify myself in many aspects of all the process types (In fact I prefer "artificial"/process aspects of all IME's).

    Anyways bullet points tend to be bit too general for personal typing purposes. Probably this kind discretization serves more result types.

    So when it comes to conflicting aspects I can clearly detect my distaste towards result R, result T and result F.
    More specifically (wtf) points that shows conflict:

    I don't disagree. However, Intertype Relations might come into play or at least the relation between your type resemblance and the ESI profile.

    harsh but ILE on ESI.png
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    insane!

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    Ben I love your channel but the one on supervision was almost unlistenable because of the echo. It probably has to do with using speakers + a freestanding always on (or automatically activates on hearing sound) mic. What she needs is to set up push to talk so the mic automatically mutes when she's not talking and therefore doesn't pick up the speakers and loop it back through. or just get a headset. I will literally buy her a headset if you give me the relevant information, just so I can listen to these without such insane irritation. Also can you just use the 3 letter socionics code for types, its really unclear who supervises what when we're not sure if a person is ENFJ or INFP and she's talking about INTJ. I take it to mean she could be either EIE or EII and is talking about ILI, but even if I know that its not clear to me that even they know that. It introduces a shitload of ambiguity into the topic where I'm already trying my hardest to imagine what it is they're getting at just in describing the interpersonal anecdotes

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Vaserlan View Post
    I don't disagree. However, Intertype Relations might come into play or at least the relation between your type resemblance and the ESI profile.

    Yes, it comes but only at close contact. Otherwise it goes smooth even the dental hygienist was professional. They can not tolerate Third Reich jokes while I can have a good laugh with EII's (and pretty much all the process types) when it comes to obscure references. Anyways, misery can be turned around in a way that all parties gets the benefit.
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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    insane!
    Good insane or bad insane?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Bertrand View Post
    Ben I love your channel but the one on supervision was almost unlistenable because of the echo. It probably has to do with using speakers + a freestanding always on (or automatically activates on hearing sound) mic. What she needs is to set up push to talk so the mic automatically mutes when she's not talking and therefore doesn't pick up the speakers and loop it back through. or just get a headset. I will literally buy her a headset if you give me the relevant information, just so I can listen to these without such insane irritation. Also can you just use the 3 letter socionics code for types, its really unclear who supervises what when we're not sure if a person is ENFJ or INFP and she's talking about INTJ. I take it to mean she could be either EIE or EII and is talking about ILI, but even if I know that its not clear to me that even they know that. It introduces a shitload of ambiguity into the topic where I'm already trying my hardest to imagine what it is they're getting at just in describing the interpersonal anecdotes
    Thanks for your first 5 words.

    I try my best with the sound. I recently spent £20 on a new mic.

    My preference is not to use the tricode unless I'm talking about an idiosyncratic sociotype: so it will be "TiNx the Strategic Accommodator". Except for three non corresponding sociotypes: ESI Guardian, LSI Inspector, and SLI Master. Sometimes I use Victor's names for his sociotypes.

    A lot of Russian speakers switching between English and Russian can get mentally strained coz, for example, IEI is pronounced "e eh e" in Russian. I have been there when this has happened. Also when the sound isn't clear, the tricode ..... [You can finish this point yourself. ]

    BTW, I like socionika but I'm not a socionika supremacist. The supremacists are not good ambassadors for socionika.
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    alright well its your channel and I appreciate the effort

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Vaserlan View Post
    Good insane or bad insane?
    Idk I still gotta grasp most of this! Thanks for putting all this info orderly in here and sharing with us though ^^.

    And.. where can I look more specifically to understand how does the externalities and internalities thingie work? What does it mean that the first mute the latter when approaching outside?

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    Quote Originally Posted by ooo View Post
    Idk I still gotta grasp most of this! Thanks for putting all this info orderly in here and sharing with us though ^^.

    And.. where can I look more specifically to understand how does the externalities and internalities thingie work? What does it mean that the first mute the latter when approaching outside?
    If you see this video it might help (it's on the Demonstrative position in NeFx and on two auxiliary functions (hinted at by Jung) and why MBTI measures the J/P of the top extraverted function):

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yc3F..._wsPXgs20YsWBT

    Think of the TiNx being more Ne when on their territory. When not on that territory, they can seem more sober. See the Manipulative Fe. Points 1, 2 and 5.

    TiNx 3. Self Affirmation Block (Ne- Fe+).png

    For NiFx there is a bullet point about when their power sensing can be good. The functions in the internalities row have a narrower scope of use.

    My quota is exceeded. You'll have to see the NiFx graphic in the original post. Position #6: Management Se-.

    Another example:
    The SeTx resembler likes to respond naturally in the situation. When in that mode, the Ti is confined (to a background process) because there's so little time to think. The thinking stage was done when reading the situation. When not so engaged in its environment, the SeTx resembler can Supervisee shift to think like a TiNx resembler eg a 19 year old SeTx (he was taught functions and Keirsey temperament from aged 8) recently talked to me for over an hour about how he uses the Jungian functions. I spent most of the time listening very closely.

    This video is a coconutshell where I go thru the whole NiFx profile. Info about the positions (and rows and columns) is transferable to other profiles.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=j1tD..._wsPXgs20YsWBT
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    The point where where the energy is pessimum kind of rings a bell. I might appear far more sociable/communicative than I actually am.

    There are plenty of LII's out there that socialize with friends far more than me... at least the dualized ones. One ESE shamed me once due to my lackluster actualization of Fe.
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    Tx, Ben

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    where is the ESE-ESFj G model?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nea View Post
    where is the ESE-ESFj G model?
    On the way.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Ben Vaserlan View Post
    On the way.
    Based on recent videos, I assume it is done, could you share G model of ESE?

    If you have an update version model for SLE, that would also be appreciated.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Nea View Post
    where is the ESE-ESFj G model?
    I'll post it here on my Model G page. My attachment quota has been exceeded.
    https://www.facebook.com/pg/ModelGul...42343669179663
    Although you only get half of it for now, u get notes comparing it to its Superego TeNx and you get to see the 3.1 template which has lot of new stuff added. I'll do another post about the new template.

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    Details on the 3.1 explanation (vastly expanded) are here on the community tab of my channel. https://www.youtube.com/user/Vaserlan/community
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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    Based on recent videos, I assume it is done, could you share G model of ESE?

    If you have an update version model for SLE, that would also be appreciated.
    See my reply to Nea.
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    Full Model G explanation as of 2019-12H-08 ie 2020-02-08. Better to download it than view it online where the view of it is slightly corrupted. https://www.scribd.com/document/4461...ions-in-purple
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