Mirror 'Contact' Subtypes - differences in internal and external appearance? (specifically Ne-LII and Ti-ILE)

[para]

How do you distinguish the Mirror 'Contact' types? For example, how would you be able to tell Ne-LII from Ti-ILE, besides the A Model? Subtypes seem to 'wash out' the definite role of the types themselves, so it would be interesting to see some points maybe related to the A Model itself, or just general observations.

[falsehope]

ILE-Ti is not producing as much logic as LII because he has still Ne as primary and he spends more time on processing information.
That's from my observations, that judging types produce more and perceiving types less, for example when writing or doing creative work. The products of these two dichotomies are usually visibly different and it's easy to spot it.
IMO, when LII is using his logic he does convert things into his logical systems in a way he loses original meaning or does it incorrectly, so he does it a lot, but quality suffers. As example, when I say to LII it's between 5 and 10 he says oh, so it's 7.5. I say it's wrong because it's actually 7.5 plus minus 2.5. It happens this way with LIIs very often and it's irritating that they create their logical systems without taking crucial information in. But, they produce a lot more.

Also, ILE-Ti when has to handle people and situations has nothing against it and does it effortlessly, while typical LII would become tired very quickly and would not be really apt to do it. However ILE-Ti does not seek companionship or does not need external stimulation to get the job done, so in these terms he appears as LII.

Being ILE-Ti is a lot like being normal ILE with all the properties in place but just more focused on producing using creative function, but this does not make him LII. So ILE-Ti is a lot more productive than ILE-Ne, but when counting words written not as LII (if we would put ILE-Ne, Ti and LII at the same creative job).

[Rebelondeck]

ENTps may spend more time alone or with an isolated blank stare but when someone enters their domain, they seem take over the conversation making it more about their issues - in a rudderless, ad hoc sort of way. INTjs may spend more time out there but in conversation, they still appear rehearsed taking the lead only for a very specific purpose or outcome. Also, the egos of ENTps seem to be worn more on their sleeves than those of INTjs, which is a testable condition......

a.k.a. I/O

[Sanguine Miasma]

I kind of have hard time following DarkAngelFireWolf69 when he says that LII compresses information (DarkAngelFireWolf69 being a result type).

Why? I could compress DarkAngelFireWolf69 stuff significantly more. It is something where I suck at it. I make everything tight. I compressed few months of worth lab reports into 12-15 pages (mostly containing tables and graphs). Still everything was in place.


Anyways, apparently there exists process/result division between mirror types. One waves his/her hands (result) and other one gets immersed (process) and this happens regardless of subtypes in any system.

[nefnaf]

Don't be fooled by the similar-sounding terminology. These are fundamentally very different types.

Most crucially, one is an extraverted type and one is an introverted type. But there are other differences as well.

For example, ILE is a positivist type, consequently they have +, intuition of opportunities. They are fascinated by objects whose potential has not yet been tapped to its limit. LII meanwhile have -, intuition of alternatives. They discover how the potential of objects can be mitigated. They try to understand how an object's benefits and risks can be "reinterpreted" or made to work differently. Keep in mind though, ILE has stronger in general in both directions.

[Muddy]

The polr differences should be probably the easiest thing to notice, since a creative function subtypes have extremely weak polrs. ILE-Ti will be very noticeably void of Fi while LII-Ne will be void of Se. Meanwhile the Se of ILE-Ti and Fi of LII-Ne will not seem particularly lacking.

[domr]

contact/inert isn't a real dichotomy.

[Sanguine Miasma]

Well, problem with PoLR is that you re not going to observe it adversities at least right away. Mirrors do not usually push it badly.

So ILE breaks personal boundaries but so does ESE. Stumbling will begun around diverse situations. ILE can not handle formalities very well. They say something. They do not easily regulate their faces around people (and people take it personally because they can not understand that someone is just imagining things and not responding to immediate external feedback).