Do you think Si is related to nursing? I see this especially in alpha, but I think delta has some of this too. What do you think? Any experiences with Si nurses or nursing others? Are most nurses Si?
Si and nursing.
Do you think Si is related to nursing? I see this especially in alpha, but I think delta has some of this too. What do you think? Any experiences with Si nurses or nursing others? Are most nurses Si?
The question isn't to ask "is nursing a Si thing?", but rather to ask "are Si types more likely to want to become nurses?" Then you can actually test it.
Nobody has even established whether nursing is a Si thing or not.
I saw once nurses and they were all mixed but they were all feeling types with the nurse in charge being LIE. They were also all sensing. So SF. But that's in my country where it's not really well paid job.
In country where nurses are better paid I saw some thinking types like SLI and SLE.
About a year ago, I was dating an LSI on and off, but was really looking for an ESI but could not find any IRL. Then the LSI got sick and I took her to the hospital, which is a place I normally avoid like the plague, and there they were. About 2/3’s of the nurses were ESI.
They say that it is hard to meet duals in real life because their interests are exactly opposite your own. LIE’s are Si-PoLR and tend to ignore their health, and I certainly fall into that category.
I have considered nursing school more than once. I actually was in the very preliminary stages of study when my older brother committed suicide and school became meaningless for a while. Gave it up! Anyway my SLI mom was studying to be a nurse midwife as a young woman but life got hectic and she too gave it up.Originally Posted by Adam Strange
I think ESE, SEI and ESI could be high in the field. And IEE, IEI would be the least likely.
SLI's and ESI's have the same dimensionality of functions for Si - Health and comfort (4D), Se - Seeing what's real right in front of you (3D), Ni - Intuiting the best course of action (2D), and Ne - Seeing all possible outcomes (1D).
That stack is made for ER nurses.
yeah both of you gave up on what you were made for
It is usually best to follow the A's, by which I mean, do the things you like and are good at. If something feels wrong, drop it.
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yeah I agree there's this entire "pick something and stick with it" philosophy that looks down on anyone who deviates from it as a "quitter" and that's probably just exacerbating things
its like jeez mom Im sorry I don't like little league, you don't need to mark me for life as a failure
Because they're more detailed into stuffs and loves helping and doing stuffs.
Wow, people have failed at statistical kind of thinking...
It's like you observe 100 Si types that are nurses... but say out of 1000 Si types, what about all the others that are NOT nurses? Hmm...
Perhaps you can ask the nurses, why they became nurses. Perhaps they will answer things like "I like to take care of people" "I find the job to be rewarding" "Because the pay is good (enough)" "Because my parents or the society have expected me to become one" etc.
So perhaps there are many causes for one to become a nurse. Perhaps you can say that things like "I like to take care of people" is Si. But then Si just becomes synonymous with things like "I like to take care of people".
And then the "4D Ti and Te" comes up with an answer like this. Dimensionality is a thing, folks.
But it's like, why? Perhaps it's because they're detail-oriented. Are most nurses detail-oriented? Perhaps. But it's like the chicken or the egg thing. You need to be detail-oriented in order to become a nurse. And if you define a "type" as being either being detail-oriented or not, then perhaps it can be separated into that way. But I'm pretty sure, that it's also a skill that can be learned or improved. It's not something that's set in stones.
Anyway, I don't really see the point of all this, other than to say that "People who like to take care of others, and are detail-oriented are likely to become nurses. But it still depends". And you equate that with "Si". But it's like ok, what exactly do we get out of that?
Are Si types more likely to play supports in Mobas?
any type "nurses" about other people by his ego functions
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
I've never seen for example an IEI offering for and enjoying nursing others. Have you?
There's still time, isn't there?!
My young children will be growing up. I have pulls in different directions. I think of enrolling in nursing school as a slightly older student, and I'm not ruling that out. I also would like to build my music repertoire and start performing classically. Not much money in it but when younger I was considered a bit of a virtuoso and it's painful not to do anything with it... Anyway, I realize that probably the best thing for me would be to do something like nursing and then continue to play music on the side.
Hmm. What would get me to France quickest?
Well, it is usually written that result types are the fast responders and thinkers while process people tend to waver between decisions from one side to another.
SLI and ESI being result types. I also see where their neurotic reactions comes from. It is like when everything needs to go fast they might get bit panicked in front of new problems.
The thing what I have seen in SLI's is that I need to tell them take it slow and think. That is my usual pace as a process type when it comes to responding to pretty much anything.
So, yes, nursing in terms of what is regarded standard practice might fit them.
It also extends on different areas. I saw EIE (process) interview on Ben Vasserlan's channel and she was going to be nurse [not likely strictly in bodily aspects] for those who are about to die due to known complications.
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"I've never seen one, so that can't be true". Another great example of super strong Te/Ti. Great objective thinking, not subjective at all.
Perhaps you are Te/Ti PoLR.
I know several nurses of various socionics types. I'm glad someone wants to do it, but that someone isn't me. It's just. . . why? Why would you want to do something like that for a living, and the people who I've asked give varied answers. It's a really easy field to get into for one, and a lot of people fall into it as a second-option, and with a little extra training and school you can make more money and do less of the grunt work. People tend to make a very decent living as they rise in the ranks. I suppose there are also people who want to do it to "help people" or for other reasons as well.
lets rob banks
An airplane.
Socionics types of nurses I know are ESTj and ENTp.
Best natural nurse I know, who has no qualifications is ESFj. She would just spoil you rotten and respond super fast with kindness and care.
I probably fall into a terrible possible nurse category as I don’t like looking after sick people (myself included), can’t stand blood and guts, don’t want to listen to people moan, groan and whine, nor clean vomit 🤮 .
I don’t know if people are really sick (myself included, that is until I can look back and say yeah I don’t think I was feeling well).
Though a mere headache can cause me to think things like my brain must be bleeding, pain after eating can lead to stomach must be in wrong position or last nights case of pain under breast meaning maybe I’m about to have a heart attack! I either downplay or joke about these things to lesson any worry.
Real catastrophes are played down too such as not going to docs to have broken bones or hip displacement looked at.
As a teen/young adult I read medical books for enjoyment and knowledge...no longer do I do this and I don’t reccomend it as it can assist in helping you to envision the worst.
No medical visits are ever gone to with any keenness as most doctors and nurses etc don’t really care at all so why would I want to open up to them? It’s really quite difficult for me to let people in....I share things here on the forum but rarely in the real world!
Most of my pain from this world has come from those in the medical field...shit doctors and their aids...
By ego functions they may:
Ni - warn against some actions as feel the bad possible consequences
Fe - try to improve your emotions
I saw this in my interactions with them.
Any normal humans want and like to help to other people, to be useful for them, to care about them. It's our collective mind. We depend on each other, so evolutionary was fixed as useful. People like the most of each other, have compassion to each other, want to see others as happier and like to care about them. It's not about Jung's types.
Types examples: video bloggers, actors
I need to find out about this "airplane" you speak of! Fascinating!
Strangely enough I have come to associate nursing with IEE-Fis, and to a lesser degree with ESEs, ESIs, and Fi-EIIs. Maybe because most of the nurses I've met have been of these types.
Some random thoughts:
My aunt was a nurse, she is EIE
Always look at the actual tasks that these people do. Is it administration, or practical work or what is it? Is it routine or more relaxed work? Does it involve lots of technical stuff?
Yeah Si is related to nursing but it is possible that the Si component of the work task is actually so small or standardized that it's better to be some other type that can concentrate on the organization / flow of the work, and just use weak Si for the task. Just saying that maybe this is the case.
health care workers do lots of things
For Si base to be satisfied it requires a very impressionistic work so I wouldnt recommend nursing for these types. Unless they are good at the work for other reasons (for example Fi demonstrative in SEI, harmonizing subtype etc), or maybe they just happen to like it.
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(Jung on Si)
My EIE relatives have no problems lancing boils, cleaning up vomit and diarrhea, or pulling boogers from kids' noses, scraping that white stuff off of old people's tongues. One of them used to be a nurse. Si PoLR can be an advantage.
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LSI-Se is common in my experience; they're pretty common in emergency departments, psychiatric units, and among nursing educators. I talked with an ILE-Ti nursing student she became an Emergency Nurse. An IEI-Ni Emergency Nurse gently unbuttoned my shorts and touched my penis for no reason. It felt SO GOOD.
As a psychiatric patient, I've noticed more Ti ego, creative function subtype nurses than nurses of other types... that's probably related to them being street smart and having the least emotional empathy and as such are best suited for psychiatric wards.
LSI-Se and EIE-Ni are over-represented among psychiatrists, there are some ILE-Ti and SLE-Ti psychiatrists too though.
I've had many doctors but have never been a patient of a Gamma or Delta doctor (except one of my psychiatrists may have been an ILI, but I'm not sure of that and a guy who did neurofeedback on me was an IEE-Ne, but he was a doctor of divinity and just had everyone call him doctor and the last surgeon I had was an LIE, not sure of the subtype, he was very friendly and energizing). Two surgeons I can remember I had were easy-going, outgoing LSI-Se, you wouldn't have known they were socially introverted by their behavior... a lot of surgeons are LSI-Se and pretty friendly/warm (at least outwardly) actually.
But as I've said before, psychiatry is really a Beta institution (with many ILE-Ti and maybe some LII-Ti), it has to be since Gammas NTs can't really read people and since Gamma SFs wouldn't want to forcibly treat many people, and since Delta STs can't really read people and since Delta NFs have too much empathy to forcibly treat people and probably aren't street smart enough to be psychiatric nurses.
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