Type my grandfather, please :)

[MrsTortilla]

So, my paternal grandfather is kind of a legend to us in my family (my parents/aunts/uncles/my siblings/cousins). Partly because he died before we were born, and partly because he held sway over all the chaos in the family and when he died everything kind of went to shit in different ways. He is elevated in family memory in a way that many passed away grandparents probably are, but in our case it might be more extreme than that? He is held up as the ultimate ideal of a man. He was almost certainly not as perfect as everyone says, of course.

In any case, here are some details on him.

He served in WWII, had lots of girlfriends as a young man, was highly intelligent, became a lawyer, married my grandmother (ISxx maybe? I really don't know for sure) after a two week courtship when he was 31 and she was still in her teens (Arkansas). Moved family away to California to "get away from the uneducated south." Had a bunch of kids. Loved to have people over. Would take the family on long road trips across the US and enjoyed showing them the world. Did well in business, involved in lots of business enterprises and was good at many things, owned property, etc. Strict but loving/fun with his children. All five of his kids strove to live up to him, not because he was pushy (according to my LSE dad) but because he was someone so special you just wanted to please him. Still, I guess pushy is still possible although he's never characterized in that way. His kids are in their 60's now but still say things like an awed "Dad would be so proud of x" or a horrified "Can you imagine what Dad would think of so-and-so in the family doing that?!"

Relationship between he and my grandmother was very good although in the beginning she would get upset a lot - said he always wanted to go do things on the weekend like golf or whatever without her and she wanted him to spend 100% of the time with her so she'd go cry in her room. She was very young and eventually got over that sort of thing. They loved going out a lot, had dinners with friends, etc. When my grandpa died young (50's) of cancer the family just crumpled.

I'm going to guess LIE because of many of his traits, plus I have always been particularly drawn to his pictures as though there's an important connection though we have never met (duality?). I could be completely wrong as I am NOT the best typer and know ZERO real life LIE men. Could EIE also be in contention? I'd love to hear thoughts, analysis.

I posted photos of him and another two of my grandmother in case you want to use that to work out a type relation.

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[Adam Strange]

This may sound sacrilegious, but he looks ESI to me and his wife looks either LIE or LSE.

Compare him to the great James Burton on guitar in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSoKUm8WsKs

Rick Nelson is LIE (compare him to your grandmother's pics) and Burton is ESI (compare him to your grandfather's pics). It takes an Se-dom to be that good on a guitar. You can see how Nelson defers to him during his solo. They are obviously in the groove there.
Nelson and Burton lived together for a couple years in Nelson's parent's house when they were teenagers, and they were lifelong friends. That sounds like duality to me.

Your grandfather looks to me like he'd be a great guy to hang out with.

[maniac]

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[MrsTortilla]

This may sound sacrilegious, but he looks ESI to me and his wife looks either LIE or LSE.

Haha! Not sacrilegious at all. But I have honestly NEVER considered ESI.

He did like to draw (like me). Also, growing up as a skinny little kid, people would say I had his eyes, or that I looked a lot like him.

Here's something that could be ESI. My dad told me sometimes when he and his siblings were misbehaving, my dad might be called in to his father's room for punishment. But then after expressing remorse, my grandfather was satisfied - he'd then tell my dad to just pretend he was being spanked by saying "Ow!" and then my grandfather would actually just spank the bed or something. All this so the other siblings listening in (who were in a revenge state of mind) wouldn't know my dad wasn't getting his just desserts. I can imagine doing this kind of thing given the right circumstances. LOL

EDIT: Regarding my grandmother. It is interesting you suggest LSE because my dad is an LSE and everyone thinks my dad and she are very similar looking/behaving. As a young child I once threw a fit in her living room after being made to come in from outside when everyone else got to stay out and play. I remember her very calmly handing me a pillow to cry in and then walking off.

EDIT 2: If my grandma was LSE (which is looking possible) I don't think my grandpa was LSI due to extinguishment being awful.

[MrsTortilla]

My dad thought I looked like my grandpa, in a feminine way, in this photo.

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[Adam Strange]

What made me think ESI is the fact that he strongly resembles my best friend from HS, a thin, lanky guy with an ironic sense of humor, who married an ILI. My friend often assumed the pose your grandfather has in pic #3.

https://i.imgur.com/5xyWf8K.jpg

[falsehope]

He's similar to Jason Isaac:
https://www.google.com/search?q=jaso...w=1252&bih=559

Somebody typed him as IEE

[Sol]

mb P-T

[MrsTortilla]

This may sound sacrilegious, but he looks ESI to me and his wife looks either LIE or LSE.

Compare him to the great James Burton on guitar in this video: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZSoKUm8WsKs

Rick Nelson is LIE (compare him to your grandmother's pics) and Burton is ESI (compare him to your grandfather's pics). It takes an Se-dom to be that good on a guitar. You can see how Nelson defers to him during his solo. They are obviously in the groove there.
Nelson and Burton lived together for a couple years in Nelson's parent's house when they were teenagers, and they were lifelong friends. That sounds like duality to me.

Your grandfather looks to me like he'd be a great guy to hang out with.

Everyone thinks he was great to hang out with. Online once I came across a photo posted by the son of an old army buddy. It was my grandfather skinny dipping, jumping into a pond in Southeast Asia, shot caught him in mid air! HAH.

So cool you came up with that video - pretty perfect example. I mean, yes, they do resemble my grandparents!

It's hard for me to see my grandma as LIE except she had a special relationship with me so maybe she felt the connection. When I was a young teen she used to pay me $20 to clean her very messy/dusty house. I would do anything for her. My SLI mom felt like my grandma wasn't good at keeping house or cooking (though I loved her simple but awesome cooking - very salty, yum). After my grandpa died she went off the deep end with alcohol addition and after going through AA she straight up started a halfway house for alcoholic women and ran it for years. As a much older lady she worked in an old folks home and loved her job because she enjoyed socializing with everyone. One of her favorite things was to listen to me play the piano. *weep* She got me a job at the old folks home she worked at when I was 14 and would drive me there so I could play piano for the old people.

LIE could be possible though I'm not 100% sure. I wish she were still alive!

[MrsTortilla]

He's similar to Jason Isaac:
https://www.google.com/search?q=jaso...w=1252&bih=559

Somebody typed him as IEE

Hmm, this is interesting. It could work if my grandmother is actually LSE and grandfather IEE - activity partners? I'm not sure about IEE though. I have gotten that typing a lot and if you look at my actual interests and behavior and stuff it's obvious I'm not IEE. But I really don't know. I wish I could've met him or there was some video footage. There may be somewhere...

[MrsTortilla]

What made me think ESI is the fact that he strongly resembles my best friend from HS, a thin, lanky guy with an ironic sense of humor, who married an ILI. My friend often assumed the pose your grandfather has in pic #3.

https://i.imgur.com/5xyWf8K.jpg

I could see these two being the same type. But of course I didn't get to see him in person. The way my grandpa is sitting in photo #3 is how I drive my car 90% of the time. My husband HATES this. He says it's dangerous to put your leg up like that while driving. It feels comfortable though, sorry. Hehe

[MrsTortilla]

Okay, I was just looking at my grandma in photo #2 of her (smiling) and I realize that she has a similar expression to my LIE (girl) friend. Very similar! I'd have never typed LIE but now I'm thinking about it.

[MrsTortilla]

Everyone thinks he was great to hang out with. Online once I came across a photo posted by the son of an old army buddy. It was my grandfather skinny dipping, jumping into a pond in Southeast Asia, shot caught him in mid air! HAH.

So cool you came up with that video - pretty perfect example. I mean, yes, they do resemble my grandparents!

It's hard for me to see my grandma as LIE except she had a special relationship with me so maybe she felt the connection. When I was a young teen she used to pay me $20 to clean her very messy/dusty house. I would do anything for her. My SLI mom felt like my grandma wasn't good at keeping house or cooking (though I loved her simple but awesome cooking - very salty, yum). After my grandpa died she went off the deep end with alcohol addition and after going through AA she straight up started a halfway house for alcoholic women and ran it for years. As a much older lady she worked in an old folks home and loved her job because she enjoyed socializing with everyone. One of her favorite things was to listen to me play the piano. *weep* She got me a job at the old folks home she worked at when I was 14 and would drive me there so I could play piano for the old people.

LIE could be possible though I'm not 100% sure. I wish she were still alive!

Okay so I was just rewatching the Ricky Nelson video. I don't know who wrote his lyrics (did he write the song himself?) but the "wild horses couldn't make [him] stay away" thing -- when we'd ask my grandma about how she got married to grandpa even though her parents didn't approve, she'd say, "Wild horses couldn't stop me." I know that's a fairly common old phrase, but still. Kind of funny!