I listened to this the other night and figured it must be supervision. Mel Gibson (LSE) and his ex-girlfriend (ILI). Caution: observing rant may be dreadful
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IJGPLjm-fjo&t=233s
What do you think?
EDIT: Nope, I was wrong. Not supervision. The ex-girlfriend is EII. My mistake, but glad to still be learning.