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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    one thing I noticed about the chat is that extroverted types seem to prefer bold and colourful fonts, while introverts (especially when logical) are more inclined to not care about it, or they have a neutral and black font. the reason could be that extroverts want their messages to be noticed. DEAD is rather unresponsive a lot of the time, doesn't immediatly reply, but that's just a limited observation since we didn't have all that much contact. I would say that I can rule out EIE, he just doesn't bring all that much excitment to the chat, doesn't write 10 messages in a row etc. on the other hand he does appear like an extrovert to me from the way he carries himself. I suspect that he could be a normalising or harmonising subtype (accentuated introverted functions), making it difficult for him to really find a type that fits.
    And yet you didn't type him after this astro level reading. He may not "bring excitement to the chat" but that doesn't change that I've interacted with him and I think he's bursting with Fe. He really does post 10+ messages in chats and constantly burst with emotion (different than from being emotional), if you think that rules out Fe ego then I've no idea what to tell you.




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    I feel like typing pinterests


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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex View Post
    And yet you didn't type him after this astro level reading. He may not "bring excitement to the chat" but that doesn't change that I've interacted with him and I think he's bursting with Fe. He really does post 10+ messages in chats and constantly burst with emotion (different than from being emotional), if you think that rules out Fe ego then I've no idea what to tell you.

    I mean maybe he does, but like I said I haven't had a lot of interactions with him in chat. I only noticed that he very often says hi. I completely ignore chat unless I choose to write stuff (I generally "blank out" anything that is not important for me at a given moment including messages, profiles etc.), and I try to only voice typings when I've reached a certain level of certainty. right now I'm unsure about his type so I will refrain. just wanted to give my two cents since he seems to look for some answers.

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    Anyone still think ESE for me?

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlytherinPower View Post
    Anyone still think ESE for me?
    No. If you were ESE, you wouldnt be here.

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    Quote Originally Posted by SlytherinPower View Post
    Anyone still think ESE for me?
    what about SEI?


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    Quote Originally Posted by myresearch View Post
    No. If you were ESE, you wouldnt be here.
    Lol

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    I'm going to type you with any type you want if you pay extra 20 €.
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    Quote Originally Posted by LemurianLo View Post
    I feel like absolutely everything except typing of forum members is occuring on the typing of forum members thread.

    I'll kick it off again with some controversial typings. Hold up your knickers, this is gonna be crazy:

    LEMURIANLO: EIE
    EIE: EIE
    ALIVE: LII
    ONE: ILI
    ADAM STRANGE: LIE
    LOLITA: SEE
    SUSPIRIA: EIE
    ASD: EII
    SAYONARA: ILI

    Hope you guys don't find my battle typings too contradictory to your own but it is what it is fellas.
    You seem closer to IEE IMO
    self-discovery
    self-development
    optimism
    relationships
    communication
    high ideals

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    It’s summertime now. We should all move onto AP.

    Nah, kidding. You can have the best of both worlds. If you dare.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    You seem closer to IEE IMO
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    the funny thing is that I donated money to him in the past to support his research and I plan to donate more in the future, I just don't care to share that everywhere. he's aware that we have the same type, we had long skype conversations. in his book he mentions that typing someone is a really serious thing and should not be done lightly and here you are insulting others because of their type, surely the opposite of what he's trying to achieve.

    Томас, ты хорошо понимешь гуманитарную соционику, видимо, благодаря тождественному типу. Что касается Анны, то ты прав: лишь очень немногие N-подтипы выдерживают креативную среду и креативные теории. Правда, есть и исключения. Например, если N-человек подключается к системе в самом начале или воспитывался в креативной семье. Также когда он выступает в роли доводчика после креативного.


    ah whatever, you will be gone once you get bored because nobody will give you any attention soon.
    More projections and nonsense to obfuscate my original question which you NEVER answered and continually AVOID giving a direct response because we both know I drew attention to your clout chasing which you would rather have it buried. You really don't know anything about DCNH. Your weakness in typing people shows through your gallery and you refuse to learn from G but bank off his name. I already know what real LIIs are like and you're not it so vampiring off G's exact type is bullshit. You didn't get any confirmation from G that you're LII-C and inferred that G "knows" which is NOTHING.

    If you're not chickenshit, I'll see your ass in class this Saturday and I'll make sure to let the other students know how you've been riding on G's coattails and don't know shit about socionics basics or even Quadra values.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    I feel like typing pinterests
    mine is very spare. i never use it anymore. https://www.pinterest.com/acacialungs/_saved/

    edit: i guess its not that spare. i just never use it lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    mine is very spare. i never use it anymore. https://www.pinterest.com/acacialungs/_saved/

    edit: i guess its not that spare. i just never use it lol
    It’s really...organized


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    Quote Originally Posted by ashlesha View Post
    mine is very spare. i never use it anymore. https://www.pinterest.com/acacialungs/_saved/

    edit: i guess its not that spare. i just never use it lol
    I like it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    one thing I noticed about the chat is that extroverted types seem to prefer bold and colourful fonts, while introverts (especially when logical) are more inclined to not care about it, or they have a neutral and black font. the reason could be that extroverts want their messages to be noticed
    How people came up with their font and color is interesting to think about. I changed mine from default just to try it, then I chose the one that is the most readable. (Black I think is not that readable because it’s the default and easy to skip, lighter colors specially if the font is fancy are terrible to the eyes. Fonts without styling are easier to read)
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    I don’t even remember what mine is
    hmm I also picked a readable font with just the tiniest hint of stylistic element I guess in a color I like


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    I bold my font because it's easier to read. I am not sure if I am more introverted or extroverted, tbh. I think, though, that I prefer to spend more of my time alone even if I enjoy social interaction to a point and prefer work where I am mostly left alone though I can work well in a team provided that the team isn't full of dickheads and morons or slackers. I forgot to add snitches to the list, unless it's something serious (like when my coworker figured out two of our other coworkers in our department were stealing merchandise. Surprisingly one of those alleged thieves still work for the company...it's amazing what ass kissing will do for someone).

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    @ashlesha btw, your art choice says Se-Ni over Ne-Si to me. You also seem to like minimalistic but weighty/meaningful...framing of things. In words or otherwise. General vibe you give.

    Your “curiosity” - a few - reminded me of things I’ve been curious about and looked up videos/articles on but I wouldn’t put them on Pinterest haha


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    @SlytherinPower by VI I think SEE (saying this since you seem to be looking for type opinions a while back)

    im not very trained in VI and I’m terrible at spotting little sensory details like that but I get the general gist from what cognitive types vultology so that’s where I’m coming from on this. If other authors like DarkAngelFireWolf69 published more in detail VI methods they use I would be curious to look into them as well. I suspect there might be overlaps, which is why I am currently okay using the CT model.

    also VI need not always be accurate lol. Your type is upto you ultimately

    https://cognitivetype.com/codifier/
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    one thing I noticed about the chat is that extroverted types seem to prefer bold and colourful fonts, while introverts (especially when logical) are more inclined to not care about it, or they have a neutral and black font. the reason could be that extroverts want their messages to be noticed. DEAD is rather unresponsive a lot of the time, doesn't immediatly reply, but that's just a limited observation since we didn't have all that much contact. I would say that I can rule out EIE, he just doesn't bring all that much excitment to the chat, doesn't write 10 messages in a row etc. on the other hand he does appear like an extrovert to me from the way he carries himself. I suspect that he could be a normalising or harmonising subtype (accentuated introverted functions), making it difficult for him to really find a type that fits.
    After reading this I get the gist that you could type me as an introvert and I have a little curiosity for it

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    Singu - IEI


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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    Singu - IEI
    Lmao no way in hell.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Lmao no way in hell.
    Te polr seems apt to me, What have you typed him?

    I only recently read some of his posts, and that's all.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    Te polr seems apt to me, What have you typed him?

    I only recently read some of his posts, and that's all.
    EII-N is possible, definitely Te/Fi valuing. That level of uptight does not exist in IEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    EII-N is possible, definitely Te/Fi valuing. That level of uptight does not exist in IEI.
    uptight? How is he uptight?


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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    uptight? How is he uptight?
    Haven't you read the posts? Someone who basically worships the ghost of Karl Popper and wants delta PC thought police?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    Haven't you read the posts? Someone who basically worships the ghost of Karl Popper and wants delta PC thought police?
    I have read his posts on the recent bot thread and porn vs. romance thread. It seems to me he may go in circles with his arguments (I hope you don't mind me saying, Singu!). Like he wants to have an intellectual tete-a-tete, and not as personally invested in the argument as an Fi lead would be; but just sort of trying to 'best' someone logically. It's the playfulness of the IEI's Ti HA. Honestly, one of the things that stood out to me is the Ti valuing.

    I haven't really read any of his posts about Karl Popper and I don't know who that is.

    These are my impressions any way, I may or may not be accurate. I do not mean any offense.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    I have read his posts on the recent bot thread and porn vs. romance thread. It seems to me he may go in circles with his arguments (I hope you don't mind me saying, Singu!). Like he wants to have an intellectual tete-a-tete, and not as personally invested in the argument as an Fi lead would be; but just sort of trying to 'best' someone logically. It's the playfulness of the IEI's Ti HA. Honestly, one of the things that stood out to me is the Ti valuing.

    I haven't really read any of his posts about Karl Popper and I don't know who that is.

    These are my impressions any way, I may or may not be accurate. I do not mean any offense.
    I think what's going on here is that nobody wants them in their quadra, but they're definitely Te/Fi, not Ti/Fe valuing. This is not how IEI Ti HA works, it seeks understanding. The shitting on induction Karl Popper suck-fest and the much earlier 'Socionics is not real' stuff is basically as anti-Ti as it gets. The posts in the bot thread (and similar in others) are dripping with Fi, though you could argue it's low-D valued Fi.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    I think what's going on here is that nobody wants them in their quadra, but they're definitely Te/Fi, not Ti/Fe valuing. This is not how IEI Ti HA works, it seeks understanding. The shitting on induction Karl Popper suck-fest and the much earlier 'Socionics is not real' stuff is basically as anti-Ti as it gets. The posts in the bot thread (and similar in others) are dripping with Fi, though you could argue it's low-D valued Fi.
    I don't have any personal feelings about which quadra this user is in; I was just pointing out the inefficiency of the arguments - going around in circles due to sidestepping the actual 'point.' It's the feeling I get sometimes around Te PoLRs, now that I have spent more time around Te egos.

    Maybe IEIs behave differently around Beta STs, maybe this is just type heterogeneity, but - actually! Maybe he is being playful and "seeking understanding." idk his interactions with Ti egos.

    I think you think they are dripping with Fi because on the surface they are moralistic, but I don't think he is that personally invested in them - again the argumentation style of a non Fi lead type. Low D valued Fi? You are typing him Te ego?


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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    I don't have any personal feelings about which quadra this user is in; I was just pointing out the inefficiency of the arguments - going around in circles due to sidestepping the actual 'point.' It's the feeling I get sometimes around Te PoLRs, now that I have spent more time around Te egos.

    Maybe IEIs behave differently around Beta STs, maybe this is just type heterogeneity, but - actually! Maybe he is being playful and "seeking understanding." idk his interactions with Ti egos.

    I think you think they are dripping with Fi because on the surface they are moralistic, but I don't think he is that personally invested in them - again the argumentation style of a non Fi lead type. Low D valued Fi? You are typing him Te ego?
    The only way this could be IEI is if it was pure trolling, otherwise there's nothing Ti valuing in their arguments. Going around in circles can have many different reasons, but it's not a hallmark of Te polr. In fact, it's more likely that Te polr avoid mentioning whose ideas they are quoting and Singu has not tried to hide this. And as you noticed, IEI are not moralistic and don't want to police the thoughts others, so the only way to make this make sense is to assume they're trolling and being "playful", basically not being themselves at all.

    Why do you think he's not personally invested in them, is there any proof of this or did you just make this up because you don't think they make sense compared to your personal values? The reason you could speculate it's valued but crappy Fi is the simplicity of the moralistic arguments. I was considering ILI, the benefit partner of EII, before the argumentation got really sloppy.

    Ti is impersonal, not moralistic. Categorical moral judgements stem from Fi. You can observe the back-and-forth with xerxe (an ILE) for example, and see how they fundamentally disagree.

    However, to summarize, his kind of shitty moralistic argumentation is something I've seen in Fi leads trying to use their role Ti. You can tell it's all personal values disguised as a logical argument based on some ultimate scientific truth (bonus points for quoting random studies to fortify your opinions).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    The only way this could be IEI is if it was pure trolling, otherwise there's nothing Ti valuing in their arguments. Going around in circles can have many different reasons, but it's not a hallmark of Te polr. In fact, it's more likely that Te polr avoid mentioning whose ideas they are quoting and Singu has not tried to hide this. And as you noticed, IEI are not moralistic and don't want to police the thoughts others, so the only way to make this make sense is to assume they're trolling and being "playful", basically not being themselves at all.
    I know going around in circles in not hallmark Te PoLR, I suppose it could also be Tx PoLR in general, but his seems especially impervious to, what is to me at least, basic facts. And as such, in my eyes, hedges on sort of shaky reasoning.

    For example, I posted that one of the foundational principles of BDSM is that it's "safe sane and consensual." I linked to it. It was completely ignored whilst he continued the same argument as before, conflating abuse with BDSM - common mistake! But when solutions or answers to "problems" seem to be ignored, as a general trend in behavior, I ask myself if this person is Te PoLR. This is usually accompanied by confusing (lack of) reasoning, things don’t really follow from one thing, posts are impervious to what seems obvious to me.

    Why do you think he's not personally invested in them, is there any proof of this or did you just make this up because you don't think they make sense compared to your personal values? The reason you could speculate it's valued but crappy Fi is the simplicity of the moralistic arguments. I was considering ILI, the benefit partner of EII, before the argumentation got really sloppy.
    I didn't "make anything up," I simply observed his behavior. I am not being deceptive.
    He goes back and forth playing with - only one kind - of logic. Maybe its weak logic, you are right. But IEI and EII have same strength of Ti.
    It doesn't have anything to do with my personal values either.

    You can tell it's all personal values disguised as a logical argument based on some ultimate scientific truth (bonus points for quoting random studies to fortify your opinions).


    I know what you are talking about but I don't think he does this.
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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    I know going around in circles in not hallmark Te PoLR, I suppose it could also be Tx PoLR in general, but his seems especially impervious to, what is to me at least, basic facts. And as such, in my eyes, hedges on sort of shaky reasoning.

    For example, I posted that one of the foundational principles of BDSM is that it's "safe sane and consensual." I linked to it. It was completely ignored whilst he continued the same argument as before, conflating abuse with BDSM - common mistake! But when solutions or answers to "problems" seem to be ignored, I ask myself if this person is Te PoLR.
    I don't think "bad" argumentation and ignoring people and their posts in forum arguments is a sign of T polr. It's just stuff that happens, many people do it and for different reasons. It's not strictly type related.

    I didn't "make anything up," I simply observed his behavior. I am not being deceptive. He goes back and forth playing with - only one kind - of logic. Maybe its weak logic, you are right. But IEI and EII have same strength of Ti.
    It doesn't have anything to do with my personal values either.
    I'm not saying you're being deceptive on purpose but it's far-fetched to claim their behavior is pure trolling and not sincere moralizing.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Northstar View Post
    I don't think "bad" argumentation and ignoring people and their posts in forum arguments is a sign of T polr. It's just stuff that happens, many people do it and for different reasons. It's not strictly type related.



    I'm not saying you're being deceptive on purpose but it's far-fetched to claim their behavior is pure trolling and not sincere moralizing.
    I know bad argumentation is generic; I suppose I could have clarified more but I considered it obvious if a Te valuing type is pointing out something seems "to be going in circles" and given one example (I have another similar one) - I was talking about Te in this case.
    More commonly, lead XX types may think someone with PoLR XX (same function) is going around in circles. But it need not be limited to that.

    I have never said it was either pure trolling or sincere moralizing though, lol. I guess the best way to put it is IEIs are semi-invested (personally) in the arguments but not as much as EII. Again - general trend, need not always hold true, there will be exceptions, and so on. But despite all that...yeah.

    You did conflate "playful" with "trolling," (and that it must be the case with IEI) but I didn't respond to that since I considered it evident enough that's not what I was saying/ is a black-and-white interpretation of it. But anyways, just to clarify.


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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    I know bad argumentation is generic; I suppose I could have clarified more but I considered it obvious if a Te valuing type is pointing out something seems "to be going in circles" and given one example (I have another similar one) - I was talking about Te in this case.
    More commonly, lead XX types may think someone with PoLR XX (same function) is going around in circles. But it need not be limited to that.

    I have never said it was either pure trolling or sincere moralizing though, lol. I guess the best way to put it is IEIs are semi-invested (personally) in the arguments but not as much as EII. Again - general trend, need not always hold true, there will be exceptions, and so on. But despite all that...yeah.
    Your argument of IEI based on "going in circles" should just be trashed at this point, it doesn't hold water. You could just as well claim they're going in circles because their feelings about this thing are so strong that no conflicting theories or evidence can be considered. They're just endlessly repeating their stance on the matter.

    Based on the history of Singu moralizing around the forum all the time instead of randomly in a thread or two for the lulz speaks for them being fully invested, not "semi-invested".

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    Quote Originally Posted by asd View Post
    You did conflate "playful" with "trolling," (and that it must be the case with IEI) but I didn't respond to that since I considered it evident enough that's not what I was saying/ is a black-and-white interpretation of it. But anyways, just to clarify.
    You added this edit after I already responded. There is no "playfulness" present in Singu's posts, they are basically dead serious without any playful merrymaking shining through. IEI are very good at making sure you're not misunderstanding them, in fact both beta NF want to be very clear on what they actually mean.
    Thus any argument that Singu isn't being sincere in their opinions means that it's actual trolling, as in trying to make others take the bait and believe they're actually serious with their arguments. That's not playfulness.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Vex View Post
    And yet you didn't type him after this astro level reading. He may not "bring excitement to the chat" but that doesn't change that I've interacted with him and I think he's bursting with Fe. He really does post 10+ messages in chats and constantly burst with emotion (different than from being emotional), if you think that rules out Fe ego then I've no idea what to tell you.
    You think I bring excitement?

    I really am not that exciting at all.

    I guess I must save my measly amount of Fe for the internet.

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    Singu - SLI
    Si subtype - has no Ni or Ne
    Ti demonstrative: argumentativeness without actually listening, needs to be right, mostly when he isn't
    Normalizing : wants to enforce (not always appropriate to the situation) Fi "standards"
    so/sp & sx last: social PC tendency, doesn't understand human desires and sexuality
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    I rarely feel alone. I rarely talk to anyone, yet in my head i have the most amazing, the most fantastic discussions with the people in my life. In real life, what most people talk about is several orders of magnitude lesser than their inner experiences. Most people never reveal the singularity of their subjective experience.
    Maybe I should learn to explore other people's consciousness. Maybe I should aim for a real space between me and others. Instead of cultivating monologues and fantasies. It's hard, but the alternative to this seems to be madness. ~ lkdhf qkb

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    It just occurred to me that @subts (or however his name is spelled, sorry) inclination to see faith in terms of its easily squared off public face might be an aristocracy thing. I don't feel like explaining myself so there u go

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