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    @Beautiful sky, what is the difference between "confirm" and "confirm final"? https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-forum-members

    Is it the same as between an educated and uneducated guess?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavebury View Post
    @Beautiful sky, what is the difference between "confirm" and "confirm final"? https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-forum-members

    Is it the same as between an educated and uneducated guess?
    There’s no “system” it’s something I made up for my own tally keeping
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    everyone can LARP as a D-Sub online.
    True LOL
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    In the comments back in Gulenko's personal account on YT someone mentioned someone else's account, so I went there and managed to dig out two more videos.


    EIE - "N or H sub" by G.'s own words
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT5-_YgsECg&t


    ILI, apparently
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQTnIRZgo_k


    It doesn't say what type for her on G's channel but I suspect IEI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwqvZNwAWQ&t=
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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    In the comments back in Gulenko's personal account on YT someone mentioned someone else's account, so I went there and managed to dig out two more videos.


    EIE - "N or H sub" by G.'s own words
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WT5-_YgsECg&t


    ILI, apparently
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fQTnIRZgo_k


    It doesn't say what type for her on G's channel but I suspect IEI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwqvZNwAWQ&t=
    She definitely shows Dynamic: Receptive-Adaptive temperament body language. I agree! (IEI)

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    Quote Originally Posted by Rusal View Post
    It doesn't say what type for her on G's channel but I suspect IEI
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SKwqvZNwAWQ&t=
    Weird. I thought out of all those examples on G’s personal channel, She would be the IEI. Then I put on the subtitles and put them on English translate, and the things she says about herself doesn’t match with IEI, imo. Very confusing. Someone Halp! I’m confused!

    But really, now idk. :|
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    Weird. I thought out of all those examples on G’s personal channel, She would be the IEI. Then I put on the subtitles and put them on English translate, and the things she says about herself doesn’t match with IEI, imo. Very confusing. Someone Halp! I’m confused!

    But really, now idk. :|
    Well, it's pretty rash to categorize someone in a sociotype based only on what the person says in a 2 minute video badly translated. Those videos are ment to look at the temperament. She is definetly Dynamic:Receptive-Adaptive, among these I think IEI is a good fit; she shows a good amount of +E.

    You shouldn't compare her to yourself. Since neither she nor you are the general representant of an IEI.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaktor View Post
    Well, it's pretty rash to categorize someone in a sociotype based only on what the person says in a 2 minute video badly translated. Those videos are ment to look at the temperament. She is definetly Dynamic:Receptive-Adaptive, among these I think IEI is a good fit; she shows a good amount of +E.

    You shouldn't compare her to yourself. Since neither she nor you are the general representant of an IEI.
    oh I wasn’t comparing, or being rash. I just mean the things she said there in that video clashed with what I know of types from reading G’s typology book. I’m sure these examples are meant to be harder. maybe they are meant for students to guess or something. I watched the other ones, too, and it all seems to be them talking about jobs and their age, and values, and no answer on type. It’s almost like a game. Some are practically shouting out quotes from his book under certain types and relating it to their lives.

    She could be IEI, still.

    @Wavebury seems to have some insider knowledge. What do you know/think of this one?
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    LIE-N?
    LSI-H or SLI-N . Verbalized temperament = Receptive-Adaptive . Non verbal Temperament = Balanced-Stable. Activity Orientation = Technical Managerial (ST).

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    LSI-H or SLI-N . Verbalized temperament = Receptive-Adaptive . Non verbal Temperament = Balanced-Stable. Activity Orientation = Technical Managerial (ST).
    He looks like an ex classmate , I agree with SLI

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    Quote Originally Posted by godslave View Post
    LSI-H or SLI-N . Verbalized temperament = Receptive-Adaptive . Non verbal Temperament = Balanced-Stable. Activity Orientation = Technical Managerial (ST).
    I do not get all the content. Translation is not coherent. But subtype leaves very little room for guessing. LSI seems OK too. I d not quite get what he talks about his weaknesses and strengths. Actually, I looked at it very oppositely at first due to translation.


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    Pays great attention to numbers, indicators, factual material, concrete logic of objects.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    I do not get all the content. Translation is not coherent. But subtype leaves very little room for guessing. LSI seems OK too. I d not quite get what he talks about his weaknesses and strengths. Actually, I looked at it very oppositely at first due to translation.

    Originally Posted by LSI
    Pays great attention to numbers, indicators, factual material, concrete logic of objects.
    Yes, the translation is not good. At this point I just select a bunch of translated words that correspond phonetically to what the person is saying ! It's all about energy anyway ahahah !

    Edit : Updated my post so that the quote corresponds to Sanguine Miasma Updated post.

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    ESE found
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    Quote Originally Posted by Aster View Post
    oh I wasn’t comparing, or being rash. I just mean the things she said there in that video clashed with what I know of types from reading G’s typology book. I’m sure these examples are meant to be harder. maybe they are meant for students to guess or something. I watched the other ones, too, and it all seems to be them talking about jobs and their age, and values, and no answer on type. It’s almost like a game. Some are practically shouting out quotes from his book under certain types and relating it to their lives.

    She could be IEI, still.

    @Wavebury seems to have some insider knowledge. What do you know/think of this one?
    I actually don't know, and this is what Google translate spat out when I ran the text in the description of the video through it:

    What sociotype is Victoria? Pay attention to the movement of the eyes, body movements, the nature of the smile and microexpressions.
    So I'm guessing it's some kind of exercise for his students?


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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    @Wavebury: I don't think it's worth getting into a debate. She is very rigid and has a short temper. Likely N-sub
    N-subtypes don't even have a tendency for short temper, (unless they have a secondary type which makes them more conflict-seeking).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    LIE-N?
    introvert, logical
    not LII

    ''ESE'' is an intuitive, more introverted. maybe EII

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sanguine Miasma View Post
    ESE found
    I definetly see Receptive-Adaptive. She seems SEI for me! Idk what you think

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    Quote Originally Posted by lynn View Post
    N-subtypes don't even have a tendency for short temper, (unless they have a secondary type which makes them more conflict-seeking).
    This is the internet, not real life.
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Reaktor View Post
    I definetly see Receptive-Adaptive. She seems SEI for me! Idk what you think
    Could be. It seems like kindred types do not get similarity recognition from him...lookalikes it is. So It was between SEI and IEI.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavebury View Post
    I actually don't know, and this is what Google translate spat out when I ran the text in the description of the video through it:



    So I'm guessing it's some kind of exercise for his students?
    I realize the description of the other video (of the EII woman) also doesn't say what type she is, it was a student of SHS who said on a Discord server that she had gotten typed EII. @Aster that was my insider knowledge.


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    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ohmZOHcfk0 This one I know got ESI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHpVPMusCps And this one got LIE

    I don't know their subtypes though, nor the types of the other people, sorry.


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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavebury View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ohmZOHcfk0 This one I know got ESI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHpVPMusCps And this one got LIE

    I don't know their subtypes though, nor the types of the other people, sorry.
    Tatiana (ESI) reminds me @Adam Strange 's famous ESI Interior designer (and girlfriend) ! Same type same Profession (maybe they look alike too !) ! She has a very charming and warm energy too ! That video is in SHS site since a while and I was curious about her type without actively searching for the answer though. Mystery solved, thank you for that !

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    Quote Originally Posted by Wavebury View Post
    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ohmZOHcfk0 This one I know got ESI

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GHpVPMusCps And this one got LIE

    I don't know their subtypes though, nor the types of the other people, sorry.
    Awesome!

    Yeah, this seems like an exercise for students. I was thinking that, too. Too bad it doesn’t have an answer key! Damn it. Lol

    thanks for telling us what you know, though. Very cool (in a nerdy way, of course!)
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    sol - IEI-N
    nifl - IEI-N

    These two are obvious identicals. I wonder how they will interact with each other

    Beautiful Sky - IEI-N

    plz send some creative subtypes

    Also Adam Strange is in my opinion an IEI
    my ideas about socionics:

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    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

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    and this is a thread with EIE examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    sol - IEI-N
    nifl - IEI-N

    These two are obvious identicals. I wonder how they will interact with each other

    Beautiful Sky - IEI-N

    plz send some creative subtypes

    Also Adam Strange is in my opinion an IEI
    more correct would be:
    Sol - EIE
    nifl - IEI

    i followed his example in using basic theory (especially ITR, when i observed the effects IRL and the significant concordance with the theory) and VI when considering my type and after reading his advice; we have mirror types : therefore the similarity

    Alive, logical types generally have good sensibilities for assessments of facts and categorisation in order to not throw conflictors and superegos of IEI into that type, especially with the abundance of data at your hands. furthermore these differences in people are perceived clearly and their importance is not rejected with Ne in LII.

    as seen on your picture you do not have the visage of LII, either - it looks irrational. this was already evident in your video with WellArmedCat
    Last edited by nifl; 02-09-2023 at 05:22 AM.

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    Nah, you two are too similar to be different types. Maybe it's not so obvious to you, but I think everyone else notices it. It's like that example of ben shapiro and brett cooper who are also behaving in very similar ways.
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Sol, nifl : unlikely Fe egos
    Adam, C. Blue : probably extroverts
    Sicuramente cercherai il significato di questo.

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    @Scarlett talks more like an ethical type
    from logical types it's not a lot like base or introverted

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alive View Post
    Nah, you two are too similar to be different types.
    Perhaps also too similar to be different people


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    @nifl are you russian like @Sol?
    Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
    Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
    Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
    Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
    Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!

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    @Alive, Do you think people like @Kill4Me, @Lolita, @Number9Large, @nanashi, @myresearch, @Eudaimonia are IEI?
    Sometimes you don't have motivation because you lack purpose.
    Sometimes you don't have purpose, because you lack self-knowledge
    Sometimes you don't have self-knowledge because you lack love
    Sometimes you don't have love because you lack self-love
    Sometimes you don't have self-love because you lack guess what? Ask Gulenko!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    @Alive, Do you think people like @Kill4Me, @Lolita, @Number9Large, @nanashi, @myresearch, @Eudaimonia are IEI?
    I do think Lolita, myresearch and Eudaimonia are IEI, yes. I do not know the others
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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    Quote Originally Posted by Megatrop View Post
    @nifl are you russian like @Sol?
    no. only other russian i've noticed active here is Kurt Gabin

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    Alive being EII makes so much sense because really he's making Fi associations and not Ti cateforizations. You noticed that?
    Parts of Ti PoLR description suits him well

    He prefers to limit the number of theoretical categories he works with and tends to see new terminology, systems, and rules as being arbitrary and unnecessary until he at last discovers their necessity for himself through extensive personal experience.
    When he rejects using any theories except Socionics , also , he types himself as C Subtype because he hates rules
    He may be able to express his views clearly when given the time, but he is not prepared to deal with people who challenge his views and draw him into logical arguments and disputes.
    As many members here said , he either ignores or evasives whenever someone ask him about his typing although he usually express his opinion
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    Quote Originally Posted by nifl View Post
    no. only other russian i've noticed active here is Kurt Gabin
    Here should be also a number from Black sea borderland territory which was illegaly separated from Russia in 1991. They are of same culture and may be named as Russians from history point too.
    Named themselves as Russians since 10 century to ~1920-91. They have no even own naming, what is formally used - archaic Russian word with the meaning "borderland". Formal "special language" - is artificial dialect based on Polish and Russian, which is not main for the majority there (most use as main either normal Russian language, or other local variants of dialects). The territory was thought as several regions (where southern half was goten from Crimean turks in 18 century), then in 1922 those regions were gathered in a federal territory alike states in USA or republics inside RF.
    To think them as Russians was common up to 1991. It's practically correct, just has several formal views.
    To better explain the situation. There are a lot of people (millions) in RF who was born in that territory - they migrated same as people migrate between states in USA. And versa - there lives a lot who was born in today RF. Plus many cross relatives. 1000 years before people of today central RF and that territory supposed themselves as parts of one nation or close to this term. When a part of that territory was controled by Poland for some time - they named themselves as Russians for centuries there. USA exists lesser of time to suppose itself as one nation. Same for today Germany, Italia, etc.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Here should be also a number from Black sea borderland territory which was illegaly separated from Russia in 1991. They are of same culture and may be named as Russians from history point too.
    Named themselves as Russians since 10 century to ~1920-91. They have no even own naming, what is formally used - archaic Russian word with the meaning "borderland". Formal "special language" - is artificial dialect based on Polish and Russian, which is not main for the majority there (most use as main either normal Russian language, or other local variants of dialects). The territory was thought as several regions (where southern half was goten from Crimean turks in 18 century), then in 1922 those regions were gathered in a federal territory alike states in USA or republics inside RF.
    To think them as Russians was common up to 1991. It's practically correct, just has several formal views.
    To better explain the situation. There are a lot of people (millions) in RF who was born in that territory - they migrated same as people migrate between states in USA. And versa - there lives a lot who was born in today RF. Plus many cross relatives. 1000 years before people of today central RF and that territory supposed themselves as parts of one nation or close to this term. When a part of that territory was controled by Poland for some time - they named themselves as Russians for centuries there. USA exists lesser of time to suppose itself as one nation. Same for today Germany, Italia, etc.
    I assume that there is generally a greater interest for Russian speakers in and around the Russian Federation to go to sites like socioforum, socionics.org etc. also due to the good opportunities for meet-ups and IRL connections/dates with favourable ITR, besides cultural similarity; to identify compatible people being a significant interest-point in this typology. For Russian speakers in that area to come here it's presumably mostly for teaching purposes, to reach a wider audience, or a separate interest in international communication.

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    Quote Originally Posted by nifl View Post
    I assume that there is generally a greater interest for Russian speakers in and around the Russian Federation to go to sites like socioforum, socionics.org etc. also due to the good opportunities for meet-ups and IRL connections/dates with favourable ITR
    There are not many people on typology forums. On most active socioforum are ~10-30 active members, most of which talks mainly about not types. What they think about own types is often (mb ~50%) wrong and it's rare when exists a material to understand with assurance their types by yourself before a meeting.
    To organise IRL typology meeting with acceptable quantity of people is possibly only in big cities as Moscow. Would come up to 10 humans, where <=5 will have correct types. As you want to see people of other sex, - limit to 2-3 humans. It needs good luck to find on such meeting your dual of other sex, just to communicate with such human. Seems, Fe valued types are more active on forums and have higher chance to notice duals on such meeting.

    It's easier to notice a dual in public place or Internet, establish a communication and then mb do IRL meeting. And it's comparably to find a dual on IRL meeting for any theme, besides types.

    > For Russian speakers in that area to come here it's presumably mostly for teaching purposes, to reach a wider audience, or a separate interest in international communication.

    To communicate with someone else who is interested in types. Not so many such ones. Also to watch and interact with people with supposed types, to try identification by different materials.
    But language is serious problem. Mb 20% on USSR territory can post long messages in English and for most of them it's not easy process for significant stable interest, when exist Russian language sites. Taking this and how many people is active on Russian sites, I may suppose up to 5 active ones from USSR here.

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    Usually on these kinds of meetups 80% of the people have the same type (INxx and especially IEI). 90% only know MBTI, 50% barely know the basics, and most people talk about stuff that is completely unrelated to typology. In my opinion it's more annoying to have serious discussions there because most people have flawed ideas but they are very sure about them. It's better to just go to a social event, filter out intuitives and talk with them about typology as they won't be rigid about it. Sensing types don't care about typology don't even pretend like they do.
    my ideas about socionics:

    https://soziotypen.de/thoughts-on-socionics/

    the section will be updated ever other month or so.

    this is a VI thread with IEI examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...-(IEI-edition)

    and this is a thread with EIE examples

    https://www.the16types.info/vbulleti...s-EIE-examples

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