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    Quote Originally Posted by Subteigh View Post
    Excluding the part about being especially interested in technology, this sounds similar to me, although for me, there is such a thing as too much "hard science" - i.e. where it becomes too cold to me (essentially, for example, thinking that there is only so much I care to know about the Big Bang, quasars etc.).
    Hmm, ok,
    I don't think that science can be too "hard" for me.

    I'm totally fine with developing electronic circuits as working field. I wrote algorithms that converted images formats and I did some research in data compression algorithms.
    I guess that's the reason why I'm better than an untrained person in spotting patterns in data structures. Data compression is basically looking for patterns in datasets and describe data in a shorter representation.

    I don't know if many EII would be interested in such special fields of work.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Hmm, ok,
    I don't think that science can be too "hard" for me.

    I'm totally fine with developing electronic circuits as working field. I wrote algorithms that converted images formats and I did some research in data compression algorithms.
    I guess that's the reason why I'm better than an untrained person in spotting patterns in data structures. Data compression is basically looking for patterns in datasets and describe data in a shorter representation.

    I don't know if many EII would be interested in such special fields of work.
    "Such special fields of work" seems very arrogant btw.
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    Probably it seems arrogant to you... ok, how would you phrase an activity that estimated only 1 out of 1000 people do?
    Or I do have an incompatble value system to choose words. English is not my native language.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Probably it seems arrogant to you... ok, how would you phrase an activity that estimated only 1 out of 1000 people do?
    It's more that it seems like you have a problem with EIIs. It's like you have a personal emotional problem with that type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    It's more that it seems like you have a problem with EIIs. It's like you have a personal emotional problem with that type.
    No, I don't have problems with EII or being an EII. Why do you think I'm EII? Provide some explanation, please.
    Is your judgement what type I could be based on pure intution?

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    No, I don't have problems with EII or being an EII. Why do you think I'm EII? Provide some explanation, please.
    Is your judgement what type I could be based on pure intution?
    I don't have a judgement on your type.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    A few days ago I was actually thinking that you might be an EIE. My reason is that from some of the posts you have made in this thread recently you seem to agree with many self typings in a very complimenting, positive manner. This of course makes you seem more knowledgeable to these people and they become more trusting of you in the process. This isn't to say you aren't knowledgeable, simply that you are good at manipulating internal perceptions of you. Your descriptions of other people also tends to be self relating, how these people "feel" or come across to you in an ethical manner. I could be entirely wrong, these are just my observations.

    Instead of EIE, have you thought of IEI or ILI? You have the Ni subtype in your TIM but my last point about your priority on self relational typing makes me think you could be an introvert.
    Thanks for the feedback.

    For one, we must remember that everyone has 1D Fe, at the very least, which is predicated upon experiences, and so theoretically all one would require is to have had previous experiences using Fe in a way that was effective enough to achieve some end; that doesn't necessarily connote 4D Fe.

    Secondly, any and all seemingly Fe "agreeableness" from me is rooted in Fi and my admiration for certain (transformational) aspects of Fe and valuing its utility, especially as a means to buttress Te output, in getting people to do what's needed/whatever I require. Generally speaking, I like to be "pleasant" but as evidenced by this thread, whenever my subjective values are crossed, I couldn't give a 2 stroke fuck about maintaining/respecting/elevating the emotional atmosphere, "ambient vibes" be damned. I value constructive criticism, especially when rendered in an evaluative and applicable "Te" fashion; but critiques rendered in "bad faith" may be returned in "bad faith," subject to when/if I feel like it, without any regard for what others may think or feel about it.

    Furthermore, I've already spoken to this several times in this thread but it bears repeating > I know for a fact that I'm not a Fe lead/valuer because I don't experience emotional contagion and I believe that this is one of the most effective ways of determining who "values" Fe or not. Fe is dynamic in that it constantly picks up the "continuous excitations in people's psychological states," which I read as affective empathy, being able to feel/take on the emotions/moods of others/the environment by way of contagion (a particular set of mirror neurons oriented towards adjusting to social feedback).

    Even Dario Nardi, in his research subjecting the 16 types to EEG brain scans, found that ENTJs have low activity in the regions of the brain where mirror neurons generally affect behavioral mimicry and prompt people to adapt to emotionally induced social feedback like shame or embarrassment. Fi, on the other hand, is more concerned with closing psychological distances via cognitive empathy/"mind reading" and placing one's self into another's shoes and even though I can still struggle with this, it is the only way I access empathy channels.

    Lastly, on dichotomy tests in the past, I've often scored about 65-75% extroversion and so LIE-Ni would make more sense than ILI-Te; I'm definitely not Fe-PoLR and I don't have trash Se. The "self relational" typings I did were based on ITR (from my vantage point) and so "vibes" and "feelings" about other types is an integral aspect of that.

    Quote Originally Posted by Stefilias View Post
    Superficialy, with his bolding and red text and sizes and whatnot, he seems like one of the most expressive person on here. Then again, seems can be just that.
    His posts make me dizzy so I barely read them, the way he writes reminds me of emotional turmoil just by its aspect. By "the way he writes", I'm refering to bolding and stuff, not content.
    Nah. That's not done for Fe "expressiveness" but Se "impact"; the bold is done for emphasis in a hammering/avalanching way, not to impart any emotional cue. Similarly with Te, people conflate Fe and Se. For *IEs, Se is nothing but the volitional will, the energetic force that supports and buttresses Te or Fe aims > for Fe, the end result can be "liveliness" and with Te, more like staccato gun fire.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Thanks for the feedback.

    For one, we must remember that everyone has 1D Fe, at the very least, which is predicated upon experiences, and so theoretically all one would require is to have had previous experiences using Fe in a way that was effective enough to achieve some end; that doesn't necessarily connote 4D Fe.

    Secondly, any and all seemingly Fe "agreeableness" from me is rooted in Fi and my admiration for certain (transformational) aspects of Fe and valuing its utility, especially as a means to buttress Te output, in getting people to do what's needed/whatever I require. Generally speaking, I like to be "pleasant" but as evidenced by this thread, whenever my subjective values are crossed, I couldn't give a 2 stroke fuck about maintaining/respecting/elevating the emotional atmosphere, "ambient vibes" be damned. I value constructive criticism, especially when rendered in an evaluative and applicable "Te" fashion; but critiques rendered in "bad faith" may be returned in "bad faith," subject to when/if I feel like it, without any regard for what others may think or feel about it.

    Furthermore, I've already spoken to this several times in this thread but it bears repeating > I know for a fact that I'm not a Fe lead/valuer because I don't experience emotional contagion and I believe that this is one of the most effective ways of determining who "values" Fe or not. Fe is dynamic in that it constantly picks up the "continuous excitations in people's psychological states," which I read as affective empathy, being able to feel/take on the emotions/moods of others/the environment by way of contagion (a particular set of mirror neurons oriented towards adjusting to social feedback).

    Even Dario Nardi, in his research subjecting the 16 types to EEG brain scans, found that ENTJs have low activity in the regions of the brain where mirror neurons generally affect behavioral mimicry and prompt people to adapt to emotionally induced social feedback like shame or embarrassment. Fi, on the other hand, is more concerned with closing psychological distances via cognitive empathy/"mind reading" and placing one's self into another's shoes and even though I can still struggle with this, it is the only way I access empathy channels.

    Lastly, on dichotomy tests in the past, I've often scored about 65-75% extroversion and so LIE-Ni would make more sense than ILI-Te; I'm definitely not Fe-PoLR and I don't have trash Se. The "self relational" typings I did were based on ITR (from my vantage point) and so "vibes" and "feelings" about other types is an integral aspect of that.



    Nah. That's not done for Fe "expressiveness" but Se "impact"; the bold is done for emphasis in a hammering/avalanching way, not to impart any emotional cue. Similarly with Te, people conflate Fe and Se. For *IEs, Se is nothing but the volitional will, the energetic force that supports and buttresses Te or Fe aims > for Fe, the end result can be "liveliness" and with Te, more like staccato gun fire.

    Basically all of what you put LOL.

    And then when you compare yourself to me, it is obvious that I'm way better at Fe ahah (no offence lol)
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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    For one, we must remember that everyone has 1D Fe, at the very least, which is predicated upon experiences, and so theoretically all one would require is to have had previous experiences using Fe in a way that was effective enough to achieve some end; that doesn't necessarily connote 4D Fe.
    This isn't something that should be taken into account when typing over the internet, or in real life, it makes things messier than needed. All we are able to do is observe what and how others say things, and they should more than likely be relying on their strong and valued functions to communicate and operate within the world.

    Obviously you know yourself better than anyone and so I'm not going to comment on the middle of your post, I'll just take your word for it.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Lastly, on dichotomy tests in the past, I've often scored about 65-75% extroversion and so LIE-Ni would make more sense than ILI-Te; I'm definitely not Fe-PoLR and I don't have trash Se. The "self relational" typings I did were based on ITR (from my vantage point) and so "vibes" and "feelings" about other types is an integral aspect of that.
    I don't think a dichotomy test should be the deciding factor for this but again you seem to know yourself well enough.

    Ok, now you do me, I'm curious if you've formed any conclusion or ideas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    This isn't something that should be taken into account when typing over the internet, or in real life, it makes things messier than needed. All we are able to do is observe what and how others say things, and they should more than likely be relying on their strong and valued functions to communicate and operate within the world.
    ILE final type. lol

    But seriously, I say that because like most quasi-identical relations, you've essentially re-maid the exact point I attempted to argue but by understanding and articulating it a bit differently, which can initially seem like we were disagreeing. My best friend of 15 years is a ILE and I'm rather well acquainted with this phenomenon.

    But yes, because everyone uses every function with at least 1D experiential facility, it's very hard to argue certain (bare boned) actions and behaviors as being indicative of high D ego functions, especially over the internet and without sustained, close interpersonal contact where one can be observed in a plethora of different situations and contexts that would call for advanced usage of a function.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    I don't think a dichotomy test should be the deciding factor for this but again you seem to know yourself well enough.
    Of course not, there are a confluence of factors that have led me to that conclusion. But dichotomy tests like the offical MBTI II incorporates a dichotimized preference clarity index that proves intra-type diversity along a spectrum exists. Of course there may be average ranges for where a particular type customarily falls but there certainly are those who exist along the fringes, say in regards to introversion and extroversion > E(85%)NTP and an E(65%)NTP will manifest their energy at different degrees and intensities. From a cognitive function standpoint, it seems reasonable to surmise that heightened "ambiversion" alters (levels up/down) the intensity in which the functions manifest.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    now you do me, I'm curious if you've formed any conclusion or ideas.
    Again, my immediate instinct was to say ILE, and after going through your "type me" threads, I'm sticking with that because I get the impression I'm looking at a LIE but "something ain't right." lol And IME, when I get that "vibe," I'm usually looking at a quasi-identical > can have similar output, albeit from processing the input differently. And seeing as how ILEs and LIEs are essentially two sides of the same coin, one's conflictor will be the other's dual. Though both sociotypes have struggle ass 1-2D Fe/Fi and Se/Si, they are more receptive and welcoming to one over the other. And based on this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    I do tend to like people that have good Fe and Si usage.
    Quote Originally Posted by Chakram View Post
    Comfort is a feeling, that I don't really care to produce on my own and require other people to do it for me. I do enjoy coziness, and I enjoy people that can make me feel comfortable and cozy.
    I'd say valued Si and Fe were more likely for you, which would mean that you're ILE. Does that sound right to you? And FWIW, as a Si PoLR, no lie, I fucking hate the word "cozy." Seriously, I hate that word. lol And I admire aspects of Fe but it's not "sexy" to me in the way that Fi is. I'm very drawn to the idea of a closed off, private inner world of feeling that must be earned in order to be accessed--it's not there for mass consumption unless distributed through creative Se, which is how you get some amazing performance artists, for example, who convey great depth of feeling with how they viscerally impact reality. I find this to be incredibly hot and intriguing.
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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    "Such special fields of work" seems very arrogant btw.
    I think that @WinnieW means ''specific'' such as only appealing to a specific group of people - where, theoretically, EII wouldn't be able or want to sustain extended activity. As i understand it, theory states (very generally):
    Ego - Able to operate within and is ''fluent'' in these areas; are important and central to the individual
    Super-ego - Unable to operate within and has lack of control and understanding of these areas; are unimportant, often seen as bothersome by the individual
    And etc. for the other blocks.

    So, theoretically (which is an important word to consider, really), EII could (if we consider Te) be very interested and invested in scientific fields, but, being ethical, be disinterested in isolated and sustained activity in these fields, or try to exert ethical influence on those areas. Logical types would be more prone to ''rest easily'' in the fields of data and measurement, feeling unable to support themselves when entering ethical fields without some sort of ''guidance'' of super-id functions.

    So, theoretically, the idea of isolated science being logically oriented holds water. Of course, as soon as we enter outside our conceptualization, Socionics along with all other things cease to speak for anything absolutely, so...
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    Quote Originally Posted by para View Post
    I think that @WinnieW means ''specific'' such as only appealing to a specific group of people - where, theoretically, EII wouldn't be able or want to sustain extended activity...
    You are better at phrasing what I wanted to say.
    While non-NT types likely have the same skills they are usually not motivated to do such tasks that involve abstract and impersonal reasoning for many hours, or they quickly loose interest in doing it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    ILE final type. lol

    But seriously, I say that because like most quasi-identical relations, you've essentially re-maid the exact point I attempted to argue but by understanding and articulating it a bit differently, which can initially seem like we were disagreeing. My best friend of 15 years is a ILE and I'm rather well acquainted with this phenomenon.

    But yes, because everyone uses every function with at least 1D experiential facility, it's very hard to argue certain (bare boned) actions and behaviors as being indicative of high D ego functions, especially over the internet and without sustained, close interpersonal contact where one can be observed in a plethora of different situations and contexts that would call for advanced usage of a function.

    Again, my immediate instinct was to say ILE, and after going through your "type me" threads, I'm sticking with that because I get the impression I'm looking at a LIE but "something ain't right." lol And IME, when I get that "vibe," I'm usually looking at a quasi-identical > can have similar output, albeit from processing the input differently. And seeing as how ILEs and LIEs are essentially two sides of the same coin, one's conflictor will be the other's dual. Though both sociotypes have struggle ass 1-2D Fe/Fi and Se/Si, they are more receptive and welcoming to one over the other. And based on this:

    I'd say valued Si and Fe were more likely for you, which would mean that you're ILE. Does that sound right to you? And FWIW, as a Si PoLR, no lie, I fucking hate the word "cozy." Seriously, I hate that word. lol And I admire aspects of Fe but it's not "sexy" to me in the way that Fi is. I'm very drawn to the idea of a closed off, private inner world of feeling that must be earned in order to be accessed--it's not there for mass consumption unless distributed through creative Se, which is how you get some amazing performance artists, for example, who convey great depth of feeling with how they viscerally impact reality. I find this to be incredibly hot and intriguing.
    Thanks for the analysis, type is an interesting problem that is certain. It is funny that you thought LIE but decided against it, many people do/have typed me as LIE, and all the other high strength, valued Te types as well, and then ILE as you suggested along with LII are also up there (ILE has the most currently).

    As to whether or not it sounds right to me, it is up there in terms of ranking, it has taken me quite a long time to narrow down the types and I'm still updating and changing things as needed. I contradict myself a lot.

    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Of course not, there are a confluence of factors that have led me to that conclusion. But dichotomy tests like the offical MBTI II incorporates a dichotimized preference clarity index that proves intra-type diversity along a spectrum exists. Of course there may be average ranges for where a particular type customarily falls but there certainly are those who exist along the fringes, say in regards to introversion and extroversion > E(85%)NTP and an E(65%)NTP will manifest their energy at different degrees and intensities. From a cognitive function standpoint, it seems reasonable to surmise that heightened "ambiversion" alters (levels up/down) the intensity in which the functions manifest.
    Yes, I agree that people operate at different levels along the spectrum of extroversion/introversion. This seems to be a large problem within typing since many people do not take it into account and simply try to label people according to type descriptions.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    @Chakram Do you have any idea about your enneagram?
    I haven't looked into it that much, but 5 generally seems to be the best bet.

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    Quote Originally Posted by queentiger View Post
    Why can't an EII be interested in math, science and technology? Are you really that closed minded?
    Second reply. Actually I had EII for me as an option in my mind, but then LSE would be my dual and SLI my activity... and that seems way off for me. I prefer the company of ego types.

    Delta quadra values don't fit me. Serious, Aristocratic? Nope.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    Maybe it's real but maybe it is skin-deep too.
    to see a model as real it needs to use it correctly, at least
    if you doubt in Socionics - understand correctly your and other people types, for the 1st. as I said before - your type is Fe
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    to see a model as real it needs to use it correctly, at least
    if you doubt in Socionics - understand correctly your and other people types, for the 1st. as I said before - your type is Fe
    1- There is a mutual ignore that was recommended you follow. Stick with it.

    2 - My type is very clearly rational, quite planned, introverted, static and ethics, maybe with an irrational subtype perhaps. Several people here type me ExI ftr.

    3 - You keep talking about so-called "understanding", which is very Ti. Even then, your understanding of the theory is pitiful, plain wrong, and your observational abilities in a sorry state.

    4- I am of the current opinion that socionics is skin-deep as far as its implications, deal with it, or feel free to disagree, your problem.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delilah View Post
    1- There is a mutual ignore that was recommended you follow.
    It's for cases when regularly and directly rules were broken, but not when you do not want to know someones opinions which fit to forums rules. I talk about types with you and sometimes with noticing your case. And you do not like my opinion about types. As your own opinion is emotionally, but not rationally motivated - you do not care about the truth.

    As I said before, - I'll not follow to harmful and inappropriate demand of censorhip against this forum's task and interests of people here (including yours) to know the truth about types. Despite of your strange wishes or of any other one's wish of harmful voluntarism on this forum.

    You assign to yourself baselessly Fi type, while you evidently have Fe one. You are inadequately rude and alien for me to be Fi type. This is the reason of your demands to moderators as you want to play in some wrong type (which you even changed recently) and I oppose to your incompetent misleading. Your relation to the situation is inappropriate caprice and I do not care about do you want to know the truth or not, as this forum is made for this.
    If you do not want to get opinions about types here - leave the forum.

    You are not the 1st who demanded a censorhsip and to ban me for disagreements with another noob's opinions. Until this moment moderators prefered interest of this forum above someone's inapropriate capricious emotions of those who wish to cosplay types here and do not get rational criticism against their opinons. There are forums for senseless flood and mb there your negative emotions on rational criticism against your bs will be taken into account.

    I protect the truth. While you demand to establish a censorship to cover misleading related to types on this forum. By the sense, you demand moderators to harm people and this forum, as truth about types is the forum's task. But not someone's pleasant incompetent cosplay and mindless flood for good emotions.

    You have an option to hide my messages. In case you prefer bs above reality by emotional reasons. You can't demand that other people here did not saw my opinions about related to forum's themes because you do not like them. It's what you did before and that was ignored by moderators still.
    Last edited by Sol; 05-31-2019 at 09:22 PM.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    It's for cases when regularly and directly rules were broken, but not when you do not want to know someones opinions which fit to forums rules. I talk about types with you and sometimes with noticing your case. And you do not like my opinion about types. As your own opinion is emotionally, but not rationally motivated - you do not care about the truth.

    As I said before, - I'll not follow to harmful and inappropriate demand of censorhip against this forum's task and interests of people here (including yours) to know the truth about types. Despite of your strange wishes or of any other one's wish of harmful voluntarism on this forum.

    You assign to yourself baselessly Fi type, while you evidently have Fe one. You are inadequately rude and alien for me to be Fi type. This is the reason of your demands to moderators as you want to play in some wrong type (which you even changed recently) and I oppose to your incompetent misleading. Your relation to the situation is inappropriate caprice and I do not care about do you want to know the truth or not, as this forum is made for this.
    If you do not want to get opinions about types here - leave the forum.

    You are not the 1st who demanded a censorhsip and to ban me for disagreements with another noob's opinions. Until this moment moderators prefered interest of this forum above someone's inapropriate capricious emotions of those who wish to cosplay types here and do not get rational criticism against their opinons. There are forums for senseless flood and mb there your negative emotions on rational criticism against your bs will be taken into account.

    I protect the truth. While you demand to establish a censorship to cover misleading related to types on this forum. By the sense, you demand moderators to harm people and this forum, as truth about types is the forum's task. But not someone's pleasant incompetent cosplay and mindless flood for good emotions.

    You have an option to hide my messages. In case you prefer bs above reality by emotional reasons. You can't demand that other people here did not saw my opinions about related to forum's themes because you do not like them. It's what you did before and that was ignored by moderators still.
    What do you think my type is Sol?

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    What do you think my type is Sol?
    make a typing theme with a video
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    make a typing theme with a video
    I will tag you when I do

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    Quote Originally Posted by kingslayer View Post
    I will tag you when I do
    you may use '@' prefix near the nick for this
    you also may pm me the link on the clip if you'll wish to keep your look as a great secret
    Types examples: video bloggers, actors

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    It's for cases when regularly and directly rules were broken, but not when you do not want to know someones opinions which fit to forums rules. I talk about types with you and sometimes with noticing your case. And you do not like my opinion about types. As your own opinion is emotionally, but not rationally motivated - you do not care about the truth.

    As I said before, - I'll not follow to harmful and inappropriate demand of censorhip against this forum's task and interests of people here (including yours) to know the truth about types. Despite of your strange wishes or of any other one's wish of harmful voluntarism on this forum.

    You assign to yourself baselessly Fi type, while you evidently have Fe one. You are inadequately rude and alien for me to be Fi type. This is the reason of your demands to moderators as you want to play in some wrong type (which you even changed recently) and I oppose to your incompetent misleading. Your relation to the situation is inappropriate caprice and I do not care about do you want to know the truth or not, as this forum is made for this.
    If you do not want to get opinions about types here - leave the forum.

    You are not the 1st who demanded a censorhsip and to ban me for disagreements with another noob's opinions. Until this moment moderators prefered interest of this forum above someone's inapropriate capricious emotions of those who wish to cosplay types here and do not get rational criticism against their opinons. There are forums for senseless flood and mb there your negative emotions on rational criticism against your bs will be taken into account.

    I protect the truth. While you demand to establish a censorship to cover misleading related to types on this forum. By the sense, you demand moderators to harm people and this forum, as truth about types is the forum's task. But not someone's pleasant incompetent cosplay and mindless flood for good emotions.

    You have an option to hide my messages. In case you prefer bs above reality by emotional reasons. You can't demand that other people here did not saw my opinions about related to forum's themes because you do not like them. It's what you did before and that was ignored by moderators still.
    Lol, wall of text. Do you think i'm scared of the truth, 'dear'? You sound ridiculous, c'mon.
    "Inasmuch as it is nothing but pure communicability, every face, even the most noble and beautiful, is always suspended on the edge of an abyss"

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    any T means "no emotions".
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    Your thinking is not serious from T types perception.
    Oh, ok. So then explain this:

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I'm touchy about the truth and reason. As I'm relatively sure in his type, when it's rejected without reasons this inspires an anger.
    Also there are not so many people on forums in which type I'm comparably sure. It's important to see their results in IR test.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    in near time I felt a shame and sorrow alike I did something wrong, offenced someone
    but I did nothing wrong today... seems

    mb someone emotionally important with Fi type thought not good about me in recent 2 hours

    the situation reminds me effects from one base Fi girl, which I had sometimes

    irrational emotions *sigh* mb I'm right in all that, but feel not good anyway. just because some F human may feel the situation so - to feel really in near time or in my imagination which models perceptions of important people
    Explain this contradiction @Sol How is it that, according to you, base T types don't show emotion and yet you, as an alleged T type, show so much of it? You're a veritable Telenovela.

    And wait, does the following below constitute "serious thinking?" lol

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I tried to change good girl's life to better. I'm sure she was hurted. I can't do good things by other ways.
    During some monthes I plan to check the result. I want to help her.
    She's not perfect as person, I see some issues in her. But generally I like her as a person and think the better she'll feel - the more good she'll do in the life. So she deserves to get more.
    At now, as my influence was done she should to get strong doubts in her plans. This seed later may grow during an emotional situation in which she may make a decision to the way on which she may get much more, to be happier.
    I never did that before with people. I came to her life, we talked a little and now I expect the consequences to change her life radically to the better with my help. Changes often suppose a pain people feel inside. This makes me to feel badly. It's the price which I'd prefer to reduce, but have no developed enough mind for that.
    In this situation I've used psychology and esoterics together. The last was useful to check the possible result of my intention. Also esoterics have leaded me to her.
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    I'm starting to rely on Tarot and esoterics in life decisions and methods more and more
    in the degree I notice the efficiency of that and mb improve the skills

    the results are far from good, but seems become a little better with a time to keep my interest further
    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    How many official marriages will I have?
    Tarot answer: how many you'll want. you'll have good relations for sure with someone


    how is it possibly?
    love is obligate for marriage for me
    if I love -> I want a marriage and keep the love for all life [it's so in my case]
    though seems I may love several women in the same time. this may have influences on results
    I don't understand. So many questions.

    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    mistakes -> pain -> fear -> hate

    Alonzo you mistake in own type
    you spread the hate

    nuff said
    @Sol I hope whatever poor, miserable, underpaid SEI tasked with cleaning your bedsores over at the government-run geriatric center thoroughly beats you today. I hope she rips up your tarot cards, goes through your pockets for a few spare rubles (only to find lint and the remnants of old, stale farts), bitch slaps you again, files a complaint for all the inappropriate groping and then quits, depriving you of human contact for the next 3 weeks until some brow beaten middle manager eventually discovers your fetid, rancid, emaciated corpse, but only for having wished upon the midnight star that the room was finally free for another guest who smelled better and talked less. Seasons beatings!

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    @Delilah

    I discuss types. If some mod will forbid to do this here, then I'll leave the forum (partly or completely). Nothing else will be.
    Here are 10 active noobs which will make some useless fun.

    I'm not interested in your "I wanna cosplay here types and get no of rational criticism". And do not care do you like the truth about types on typology forum or not.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Sol View Post
    the classmate which I remembered as the worst was EIE
    the woman which I remembered as hurted me in the childhood the most was EIE
    in uni one of the assholes responsible for my life-long spine trauma was EIE
    Is this why you type me EIE, @Sol? Do I remind you of all the evil EIEs in your past that "hurted" you? lol If so, I'LL TAKE IT. Because if back then, you were anything like you are now, you had it coming.

    It's interesting that the members you harass the most, are the ones who engage you the least--is this the same method you apply towards the smart women in your life who avoid you like you avoid soap and water? I consistently call you out in this thread, ever questioning the glaring inconsistencies in your "logic," and yet you go radio silent. Interesting, that. To me, this suggests that you yourself know that you are an intellectual coward and a hypocrite. If you are so heavily invested in giving and receiving rational criticism, why do you refuse to respond to mine? Explain yourself. > If it helps, go here https://translate.google.com/ and type your response in Russian and then post the translated English text.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    Is this why you type me EIE, @Sol? Do I remind you of all the evil EIEs in your past that "hurted" you? lol If so, I'LL TAKE IT. Because if back then, you were anything like you are now, you had it coming.

    It's interesting that the members you harass the most, are the ones who engage you the least--is this the same method you apply towards the smart women in your life who avoid you like you avoid soap and water? I consistently call you out in this thread, ever questioning the glaring inconsistencies in your "logic," and yet you go radio silent. Interesting, that. To me, this suggests that you yourself know that you are an intellectual coward and a hypocrite. If you are so heavily invested in giving and receiving rational criticism, why do you refuse to respond to mine? Explain yourself. > If it helps, go here https://translate.google.com/ and type your response in Russian and then post the translated English text.
    That's more EIE than I've EVER FOUND IN MY LIFE
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    Enneagram 2w1sw(1w9) helps others to live up to their own standards of what a good person is and is very behind the scenes in the process.
    Tritype 1-2-6 stacking sp/sx


    I'm constantly looking to align the real with the ideal.I've been more oriented toward being overly idealistic by expecting the real to match the ideal. My thinking side is dominent. The result is that sometimes I can be overly impersonal or self-centered in my approach, not being understanding of others in the process and simply thinking "you should do this" or "everyone should follor this rule"..."regardless of how they feel or where they're coming from"which just isn't a good attitude to have. It is a way, though, to give oneself an artificial sense of self-justification. LSE

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    http://socionicsstudy.blogspot.com/2...functions.html

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    "any T means no emotions" from outer Sol.
    No type is purely T, even logical ego types. Based on that reasoning I'm a ethical type.

    ...and now the unoffical hymn for all members of this board who are complete T types.




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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    "any T means no emotions" from outer Sol.
    No type is purely T, even logical ego types. Based on that reasoning I'm a ethical type.

    ...and now the unoffical hymn for all members of this board who are complete T types.



    If the subconscious functions drive the conscious functions, then for logical types, that means that ethics actually informs our actions. There is no such thing as a completely "logical type." "Emotions" sit at the core for all that we do.


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    Please stay critical of your criticalness of your criticalness of your criticalness...
    When the heavens above did not exist,
    And earth beneath had not come into being —
    There was Apsû, the first in order, their begetter,
    And demiurge Tia-mat, who gave birth to them all;
    They had mingled their waters together
    Before meadow-land had coalesced and reed-bed was to he found —
    When not one of the gods had been formed
    Or had come into being, when no destinies had been decreed,
    The gods were created within them:

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    There is no such thing as a completely "logical type." "Emotions" sit at the core for all that we do.
    Of course, Alonzo, I wasn't serious, I was being sarcastic.

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    I am summoned and brought forth to this thread by a Björk song and video.
    Good shit.
    Now carry on.
    479 so/sx



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    "Get in my wheelbarrow you saucy minx."

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    Quote Originally Posted by WinnieW View Post
    Of course, Alonzo, I wasn't serious, I was being sarcastic.
    lol I know, I was just buttressing your point.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Chrysalis View Post
    I am summoned and brought forth to this thread by a Björk song and video.
    Good shit.
    Now carry on.


    "there's definitely definitely definitely no logic, to human behavior."

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alonzo View Post
    lol I know, I was just buttressing your point.
    Thanks... I'd to look into my dictonary for the word buttressing. First encounter for me.

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